Semi OT: What's going on at Rivals?
It seems that over the past two months, there have been a steady stream of false and potentially damaging rumors coming out of the Michigan rivals site. The latest was that Brandon Peters is homesick and looking to transfer, which Sam Webb completely squashed this morning and got a quote directly from Peters that makes the rumor sound like it never had any basis in fact. Brian has chronicled some other ones on the front page, notably that Michigan was looking to cut Kyle Kalis this offseason.
So what's going on with Balas & Co.? It seems like a lot of these rumors coming out could be potentially damaging to the program if they were to spread to be taken as common knowledge by the general fanbase.
April 19th, 2016 at 11:22 AM ^
Well I hope somebody pays them or there won't be any info for anyone to repost.
Remember the commitment watch last week from Rivals? It's time to disregard that group until they demonstrate otherwise.
April 19th, 2016 at 10:25 AM ^
April 19th, 2016 at 11:17 AM ^
"Commitment Imminent" - Rivals
well, no fucking shit! Eventually Michigan will land a commitment. 14 of them!
like back in 97 or so. All it took was giving yourself a handle and start talking UM football. It was a free service and actually a lot of fun. Most of the time it was just UM fans talking shit and arguing with a few fans from Bama. Must have been post '97 now that I think of it, because the tempers were wearing thin with the visitors from Bama and I recall posting I wish we could play you fuckers this year. We did, with Brady at qb, but damn long time ago.
April 19th, 2016 at 10:13 AM ^
I joined in 2001, the very last year it was free. I had a serious sad when it went paywall.
I got over it.
I've contemplated getting a subscription from time to time, but reading this, I'm glad I didn't.
Michael Spath is the only person there with a decent combination of intelligence and communication skills.
The others are generally useless and/or off-putting.
I like Brandon Brown on the podcasts and there's generally some useful info from there. The post-game analysis with Marcus Ray and Doug Skene(again from the Podcasts) can be pretty useful as well.
Agree that beyond that there isn't a whole lot for them to hang their hats on.
You are calling someone else's communication skills "off-putting?"
That's just super.
Not gonna take shots at anyone else at Rivals, but I agree that Spath is good stuff.
Rivals has always been a second-rate recruiting site. The contacts the Scout writers have, especially Webb, are much stronger and have a much higher rate of accuracy. In terms of raw content, Scout is better and in terms of cool features/user experience, 247 is better, so Rivals is going to get squeezed out soon if they don't improve.
April 19th, 2016 at 10:20 AM ^
I'd much rather give info to Sam than to anyone at Rivals. He's responsible and far more likeable than anyone over at Rivals.
I am not sure how much he will be missed. It's all about sources and then verifying what you hear with a second source. I read them all, but you have to decipher the information for yourself. They can have some nuggets every now and then. However, with the masses reporting here along with what is written here; this site is just as good if not better because it all ends up here within a few hours.
It's a good way to get clicks, though.
Take a top-notch recruit like Peters is that fans are excited about and say rumor has it he's homesick and looking to transfer, (a la Jabrill Peppers after the Hoke firing).
Annoying nonetheless.
April 19th, 2016 at 10:28 AM ^
Right.
They should probably stop doing that.
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Is it possible they lost their source on the staff (Fred Jackson)? And now they have to resort to "throw shit off the wall and troll for clicks" approach?
Then he would be forced to essentially go to Illinois, Purdue, Indiana, or ND. Because essentially every other major school is nearly as far as Ann Arbor from Avon, IN. He may miss home, but the rumor doesn't even make sense from a practical standpoint (sure, Louisville is an hour closer, it's 3 instead of 4 hours away, not a huge difference). It's not like he's from California.
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Also, as a personal pet peeve, all the sites except for Scout stink at covering basketball. Basically completely ignored. I realize there's a dearth of info on bball recruiting, mainly due to the small number of recruits every year, but even with that factored in it seems to basically get overlooked.
Sam is the only one who ever has info and even then it seems to be an afterthought.
About the 487th thread on this shit in the last year or two?
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April 19th, 2016 at 11:24 AM ^
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April 19th, 2016 at 10:00 AM ^
You should have known it was BS when you saw it was written by Steve Harvey...
April 19th, 2016 at 10:04 AM ^
Which in case you haven't noticed recently, probably because nobody uses their search engine, is up sh*t's creek sans paddle.
April 19th, 2016 at 10:11 AM ^
I canceled my Rivals subscription after signing day. Their insider info on recruiting and practice news ever since Hoke left has been abysmal. I still get their monthly magazine because it does a great job covering the entire athletic department and it's really one of a kind. Although, the latest cover was a bit over the top. It has a photo of Wilton Speight with "spring game star" underneath.
April 19th, 2016 at 10:13 AM ^
how Bunting was bascially a non-entity or in the dog house this Spring while most other reports had him playing really well?
April 19th, 2016 at 10:17 AM ^
Yep. Bunting is on his way to transferring, according to them, because he's not going to play.
April 19th, 2016 at 11:41 AM ^
They had Ty Isaac transferring last year as well.
April 19th, 2016 at 11:45 AM ^
Common mistake. It was actually Ty Issac who transferred.
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April 19th, 2016 at 10:33 AM ^
Rivals used to be the best. The leaders for almost a decade. It was the only sub i had at one point.
I left when they lost their only midwest analyst. They had ZERO midwest analysts. They had 5....YES FIVE south/southeast analysts. Their content/articles/recruiting rankings were heavily biased towards the south georgraphically - and midwest got dumped on.
It was a no brainer for me. Now, i believe they do have 1 midwest anallyst (correct me if i am wrong - isnt it ex wolverine Josh Helmholdt?) and probably have 4-7 southern analysts.
Its just biased shit now. Content/analysis on the wolverine appears to be crap in comparison to the early to mid 2000's when i was a member.
April 19th, 2016 at 10:35 AM ^
They are on a sinking ship.
April 19th, 2016 at 10:54 AM ^
and most of what they report is crap. I spent way too many years paying for that sight, until I finally saw the light and found out I was paying for information you can get for free in other places. Plus the moderators over there have pretty big egos and act like they know all and will gladly tell people how smart and informed they are, when in reality they aren't.
My suggestiong is save your money and stay away from that site.
April 19th, 2016 at 11:10 AM ^
April 19th, 2016 at 11:39 AM ^
for Swenson was the same as the source on the Peters rumor, which is why they gave it credence.
Just passing on what they said.
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April 19th, 2016 at 11:32 AM ^
Tim Sullivan has connections!
For inside information, he can call up Brian Cook.
Just ask Drew Singleton. Clemson is a "solid leader."