CC: To Les or Not to Les/Is Les More?
October 26th, 2014 at 7:47 AM ^
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October 26th, 2014 at 8:53 AM ^
October 26th, 2014 at 9:00 AM ^
So with Brandon around we may have to settle for someone like that? OK.
October 26th, 2014 at 9:26 AM ^
word is now brandon is gone monday. its all over the net now
October 26th, 2014 at 10:53 AM ^
October 26th, 2014 at 10:53 AM ^
October 26th, 2014 at 9:54 AM ^
October 26th, 2014 at 10:36 AM ^
October 26th, 2014 at 11:31 AM ^
Baseless internet speculation.
October 26th, 2014 at 11:11 AM ^
His offense looks like an evolved version of the Schembechler offense. He uses a power run with a little 'spread' twist. Every game I've ever watched at LSU, he's been in. I wish I could say the same for Hoke.
October 26th, 2014 at 7:51 AM ^
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October 26th, 2014 at 8:55 AM ^
October 26th, 2014 at 9:13 AM ^
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October 26th, 2014 at 9:30 AM ^
...I realize that a lot of people will hate to hear that and would rather talk about the importance of getting a coach that can install a modern offensive scheme.
But the reality is that both are necessary. It is not either/or. It is both.
If Michigan wants to be a top ten team again, they need a coach that can play smart football, but also a coach that can get them sto stop beatng themselves with so many mental errors and failures of basic techniques and skills.
If the next coach can just get Michigan to play sound football, and to stop beating themselves with mental errors and poor technique, then Michigan will get back to the 9-3 level.
Miles and his staff (if they come with him) could probably do that.
But is that enough? There is really no reason that Michigan should not be at the level OSU has been at over the last several years.
But I doubt that Miles and his crew can do enough on 'smart football' facet (at least on the offensive side of the ball) to get to that level.
October 26th, 2014 at 7:54 AM ^
The Best coaches in Michigan history didn't come From Michigan.
Michigan needs more than selective inbreeding.
October 26th, 2014 at 8:09 AM ^
October 26th, 2014 at 8:22 AM ^
Indeed the current state of affairs may limit the available talent pool willing to tackle such a dilemma.
October 26th, 2014 at 8:47 AM ^
why someone would come. Money, prestige, and the chance to rebuild a traditional power back into it once was. The opportunity for football immortality is high.
The only question why of wouldn't someone come is related to the internal factions and that is something the AD has to change. A coach can do that too by reaching out to all when he comes. Ingratiate, schmooze...however you want to classify it.Whether that means holding a large gathering or arranging group meetings it needs to be done. In those meetings the new coach needs to voice his need for their support, but also to give the factions two choice: You are with us or you are against us. Choose.
October 26th, 2014 at 9:15 AM ^
October 26th, 2014 at 9:37 AM ^
that wants to get even with his former employer. Perhaps this coach is very competitive and as he is currently following a different career, couldn't turn down the chance to come back and see if he still has it. Perhaps this guy has big time experience and has had great sucess. Perhaps he knows that he recruits the B1G footprint well and would have everything he needs to make a historic and incredible comeback through the University of Michigan.
Perhaps this is a dream, but it also answers your question. Revenge and a chance at glory with a well stocked cupboard. The right coach could step in and hit the ground running on his way to historic greatness.
October 26th, 2014 at 10:09 AM ^
Charlie Weis?
/s
...oh. Tressel?
October 26th, 2014 at 11:08 AM ^
October 26th, 2014 at 9:19 AM ^
October 26th, 2014 at 10:17 AM ^
...The fact is that big name coaches that are successful at blue blood schools NEVER leave for a chance to coach at a different blue blood school.
Bob Stoops to Michigan? That would be great. But the reality is that this sort of thing NEVER happens.
Can anyone offer an instance where this has ever happened in the last 30 years?
The reality is as follows: Blue blood programs in a bad period always end up hiring coaches from the lesser power 5 schools, or from the minor conferences, who have over-performed, [or ocassionally an NFL cast-off]. That is just the way things work.
Florida hired Meyer from Utah (then a mediocre Mountain West program)
USC hired Sarkesian from Washington.
Texas hired Mack Brown from UNC, and then Strong from Louisville (decent team very recently, but not a great program and in a minor football conference until recently.
ND hired Kelly from Cincinnati (and CMU and GVSU).
OSU hired Tressel (YSU), Bruce (Iowa State), and Cooper (ASU). [And no, OSU hiring Meyer does not count, as he was a TV commentator when hired by OSU].
LSU hired Saban from MSU, and Miles from Ok. State.
Auburn hired Chizik form Iowa State and then Malzahn from Ark. State.
Blue blood programs always end up hiring guys that have over-performed at much lesser programs [or more rarely an NFL cast off--Alabama hire of Saban, Nebraska hire of Callahan, USC hire of Carroll] .
Michigan's hiring of RichRod away from W.Va. and USC's hiring of Kiffen from Tennessee is about as close as it gets in terms of a blue blood program hiring a 'big name' from another big time program.
But despite the revisionist history that some espouse, that did not work out well for Michigan. RichRod poduced some of the worst defenses in the history iof Michigan football. It did not work out for USC either. Moreover, W.Va. and Tennessee are not really blue blood programs.
Even though I would not put Miles at the top of my personal wish list, if Michigan were to hire him away from LSU it would be a hire absolutely without precedent in the last thirty (or more) years of college football. That sort if thing just NEVER happens.
Therefore, the plausible list of candidates includes guys with profiles like Mullen at Miss. St.--huge over-performance at a historically terrible non-elite school.
October 26th, 2014 at 11:28 AM ^
October 26th, 2014 at 12:00 PM ^
You are correct the vast majority of the time. I do believe Miles is that rare breed who would come here - and it's infuriating that we didn't hire him in either 2007 or 2010.
October 26th, 2014 at 1:08 PM ^
Here is the strongest argument in favor of Miles to Michigan: It is very hard for me to imagine Miles failing at Michigan.
He is not my personal top choice. But he would probably have a very high floor at Michigan.
I view him as one of the lower risk, and perhaps the lowest risk, of all the candidates discussed to date, in terms of risk of failure to return Michigan to the Carr 9-3 level.
The thing about Miles is that you know exactly what you are getting, much more than with guys like Mullin, Doeren, Hermann, etc.. With these types you don't know if their sucess is due to their own coaching qualities, or random factors, such as stars aligning with just the right players (Mullin?) or being under a star HC (Hermann?) .
Miles, in contrast, has been around as a HC at Ok. State and LSU for a long time. Is he one of the best in-game coaches? No. Is he an elite football guru mind? No. Is he as good as Saban? No.
But he has proved himself to be sucessful over a long period of time. The probability is very high that if he were to come to Ann Arbor he would at least get Michigan back to the 9-3 level.
At this point reducing the risk of three in a row coaching hires that that fail (RichRod, Hoke, and name your 2014 young rising star HC or OC) might be important enough to make Miles the best choice for Michigan.
It could happen, but only becasue he played for Michigan and might want to end his career at his alma matter. Otherwise, that sort of hire is impossible.
I still think that it is less than 20% probably that Miles woud be offered and accept the Michigan job.
If it did happen it would have to qualify as the absolute biggest elite-to-elite program HC switch in the last 40 years.
October 26th, 2014 at 11:00 AM ^
Attendance would likely be higher in 2015 and maybe 2016 if we hire a big name, but beyond that it will depend only on the record. We need a good coach who can build a program. Bo wasn't a big name, and neither was Jim Tressel.
October 26th, 2014 at 11:21 AM ^
We need a HC and staff that can instill a culture of perfectionism in execution, a stubborn refusal to lose, and apply smart football in terms of schemes, game plans, and play calling. An ability to teach and develop players for the chosen schemes is also essential.
If we get a staff that can do those things, recruiting and winning will take care of itself.
If there are candidates from lesser programs that have shown they can do these things, they should be on the short list.
October 26th, 2014 at 11:27 AM ^
The only thing I know for sure is that Hoke has to be replaced after this year. The fanbase will come unglued if there is another year of Hoke. At this point I would not rule out anyone including Narduzzi.
I want an aggressive hardass who can handle the pressure of this job and the ridiculous politics.
October 26th, 2014 at 11:55 AM ^
Miles hasn't been part of our football program in 20 seasons. In the meantime he's been in the NFL, the Big 12 and the SEC. Hiring him would hardly qualify as "inbreeding".
October 26th, 2014 at 8:08 AM ^
1 year ago, after MSU kicked our ass that John Harbaugh would be the coach in 2015. I have no inside information, it was just a prediction I made, again, I have no idea how it will get done, presumably Brandon being fired first, but I'm sticking with my prediction...just to see if I am/was right....haha
October 26th, 2014 at 8:27 AM ^
there is something you are not telling us?
October 26th, 2014 at 8:28 AM ^
October 26th, 2014 at 9:04 AM ^
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October 26th, 2014 at 8:19 AM ^
I don't think Miles, at his age and with his history, make sense at UM. His defenses have been very good, but his offenses are always a bit of a trainwreck and I just don't see how he makes sense long-term at Michigan.
October 26th, 2014 at 8:27 AM ^
October 26th, 2014 at 8:31 AM ^
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October 26th, 2014 at 8:38 AM ^
What makes you think Bob Stitt wouldn't come to MICH? I'm curious.
And we don't want Les Fucking Miles. The guy is 61 years old. He's not an innovative offensive mind. Basically all the only two things the guy has going for him, is that he coached at MICH, and he has good recruiting ties in the south. That's it.
We need someone a little bit younger, who is going to want to be here for awhile.
October 26th, 2014 at 8:43 AM ^
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October 26th, 2014 at 9:15 AM ^
He also won a MNC....give some credit where it's due.
October 26th, 2014 at 8:19 AM ^
Les Miles: 61. Spent. End of story.
October 26th, 2014 at 8:40 AM ^
October 26th, 2014 at 8:25 AM ^
I don't fucking want Les Miles. He can stay at LSU. I'd much rather have Bob Stitt.
October 26th, 2014 at 8:34 AM ^
October 26th, 2014 at 8:42 AM ^
You're the definition of MICHIGAN arrogance.
"Herr Derr, can't work, won't work, no chance. blah blah blah."
Why not take a fucking shot? A lot of people think Stitt is an offensive genius. I'm not saying he's the right guy. In fact he wouldn't even be in my top 3 canidates, but I'd MUCH rather have him instead of Les Miles.
October 26th, 2014 at 8:52 AM ^
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