Hoke Appreciation Thread
If decisions are made in the Michigan administration using any degree of reason, that should be the last time we see Brady Hoke wear maize and blue on a football field. He cared a lot, seemed like a nice enough guy, said many of the right things, but just couldn't get the job done. Time to move on for both sides.
October 5th, 2014 at 12:44 AM ^
October 5th, 2014 at 2:03 AM ^
As I'm reading this, I consider this satire/trolling. He's just trying to get a rise out of you guys by repeating all of the infamous Michigan Man memes. Don't feed the troll.
October 5th, 2014 at 12:49 AM ^
The two aren't mutually exclusive.
Beilein is a perfect example that you can be both virtuous and win. The only time his program took a step back is when he had a team with only one pro who was a cancer in the clubhouse. Now watch what he's doing with top recruiting classes.
Hoke has great talent, has the locker room attitude right, and the results are getting worse, not better. Wake up, man.
October 5th, 2014 at 1:29 AM ^
but he's the exception, not the rule. Just because we found one guy doesn't mean that there are ton's out there, especially when those coach's are getting paid millions of dollars to win. We're extremely fortunate to have Beilein. But for every Beiein, there are 10's of Calipari, Coach K's and Bobby Knight's.
October 4th, 2014 at 11:26 PM ^
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October 4th, 2014 at 11:37 PM ^
Will your next troll account be called 1932?
October 4th, 2014 at 11:40 PM ^
I genuinely like Hoke. I am sad it has come to this. But if you are not a troll, I do not understand your logic.
October 4th, 2014 at 11:45 PM ^
the really cool thing about double posts is that you can burn a point by downvoting the troll, and then edit your second post.
October 5th, 2014 at 12:17 AM ^
Here's my logic. Hoke does things the right way and care's for his kids. Saban and other winning programs do not. So if it's up to me and I was send my kid to a program, I'd send him to play for Hoke. I could care less if Michigan doesn't win another game for the next 5 years. As long as we have Hoke we will have a clean well-run program that I woulnd't trade for any of Saban's or Meyer's NC's.
October 5th, 2014 at 12:48 AM ^
October 4th, 2014 at 11:46 PM ^
I don't want to lose in any way because that just isn't right.
October 5th, 2014 at 12:00 AM ^
we all want to win! I'd love to be undefeated. But I, like many on this board want to win the right way. That's a very famous and often-repeated statement around here. That's why I think Hoke should be retained. You tell me I had to choose between the season we're having now or Saban's 4 years of dominance and I choose Hoke every time. He does things the right way, and truly care's about the kids. for that reason alone he should be given at least through the end of his contract and i'd prefer him to get a few years in addition to that.
October 4th, 2014 at 11:47 PM ^
"The famous saying around here is that people would rather lose the right way than win the wrong way. Well this is what that looks like..."
...because that is so true.
Sadly, I fear your ticket to Bolivia may have already been punched. Say "Hello" to Coach Hoke for me when you get there.
October 5th, 2014 at 12:02 AM ^
and people need to be patient. He's bringing in a bunch of good players, and it'll take a little time. He's only into his fourth year. That's not very long to build up a football program. He's a good man and he does things the right way. That's what matters the most at Michigan.
October 5th, 2014 at 12:27 AM ^
However, when this team makes a half-time defensive adjustment mark it down because it hasn't happened since Hoke has been here. He has a man teaching 4 and 5 star OLmen how to block and how's that working out? You are right about giving a coach enough time to get it done. In RR's second year, still using players LC discarded and addition of his own on and with the addition of one player, Tate Forcier he started and Denard took to new heights he started a two year streak of offensive football that hasn't been seen here in two decades.
If he wanted to tell his coach to hire a coordinator, he should have told RR, "I love your offense but I'm getting you a DC and you are going to let him do his job." If that would have occurred, we'd be celebrating the last 4 years of MI fb. And his recruiting has been good as you say, but for some reason I can't figure our he recruits clones and doesn't understand different skill sets are needed at different positions and he has yet to get us a SDE commit. As far as development, can you blame McDowell, against his mother's wishes to go to MSU. If he'd committed here, he might have been drafted but in a much lower round. I reiterate, no disrespect intended, just looking at it through different set of eyes.October 5th, 2014 at 12:05 AM ^
this is sarcasm , right ?
October 5th, 2014 at 1:09 AM ^
In my personal opinion, and I very well may be wrong, Hoke and staff aren't good at evaluating talent and even worse developing the talent they do get.
October 5th, 2014 at 1:31 AM ^
in this topic that they were good at identifying and developing talent, but what they are good at is developing great men. That mean's more to me than any win over Rutgers.
October 5th, 2014 at 2:18 AM ^
...then let's just hire a crew of psychotherapists and drop football.
October 5th, 2014 at 1:10 AM ^
Double post!
October 5th, 2014 at 2:04 AM ^
Heck, I still like the guy. It took me a few days to sort out my positive impressions of him and his statements in the aftermath of the Morris incident. But now my head can't defend him as a "great man".
Anyway, the athletic department that BrandOn built absolutely requires a football program printing press to pay for the non-revenue sports as they're currently run. Unfortunately, the athletic department NEEDS a football program that wins big to pay the bills.
October 4th, 2014 at 11:12 PM ^
HOLY FUCK!!!! Arizona State just beat USC on a last play hailmary!
October 4th, 2014 at 11:15 PM ^
Bad football coach. Sorry- enjoy your next job
October 4th, 2014 at 11:22 PM ^
October 4th, 2014 at 11:47 PM ^
Some of the players are more delusional than their coach.
October 4th, 2014 at 11:46 PM ^
you can easily fire fans by continuing to not be competitive.
And I really don't care if the players are happy playing at home or on the road. Unhappy players venting their frustration on the football field would be a beautiful things to see right now.
October 5th, 2014 at 12:22 AM ^
Player's venting their frustrations is the last thing we need. Coach Hoke is a wonderful and amazing person, and while the results are what we would like, we are extremely lucky to have him as our HC. He run's our program cleaner than any other's in the country and he truly cares for our players. So let me ask you. What would you prefer.... a meaningless win over Rutgers, or a coach that truly and honestly cares for the successfulness of his players as human beings? I and most on this board are choosing the second option, and that's why Hoke deserves an extension.
October 5th, 2014 at 12:51 AM ^
October 5th, 2014 at 1:34 AM ^
how many kinds of drugs are you on?
October 5th, 2014 at 2:06 AM ^
Yes, yes, I get it. He also poops rainbows and farts flowers too.
October 4th, 2014 at 11:23 PM ^
Hoke apparently said he would walk home if they lost tonight. If this does indeed happen and I don't doubt he will stop at a buffet or twelve, what say we grab and few pitchforks, torches, and "greet" him at the Ohio border ?
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October 5th, 2014 at 12:25 AM ^
are an absolutely disgusting individual and an embarassment to the entire Michigan fanbase. Hoke is a great person who genuinely cares for his players, something that is rare in this day and age. I would gladly take Hoke and a 2-10 record over a Saban/Meyer and their NC's. Please turn in your fan card and never root for Michigan again. We don't need you and you completely disgust me.
October 5th, 2014 at 1:39 AM ^
Hoke is perhaps a nice guy and even a good person. But he is not a "great" person--whatever that is. He hasn't been close to a great coach at anytime in his career. Serviceable is about the best one can claim. His career record bears that out. His last 3 yeas have been progressively bad--and now awful, embarrassingly awful. There is not a single example of his developing a player a Michigan--so the fact that we are young(ish) is irrelevant. A new QB will not be a plus IMHO as every Morris appearance has shown--particularly last week. You are about 13 days late on the Hoke defense team. Even those who might have been with you then have jumped ship by now--save, perhaps, Cold War.
I cannot imagine you are a season ticket holder---and I suspect you are only a casual fan. Well. I've paid my financial dues and given my time and I have a right to expect more and better. That said, Brandon must go before Hoke.
October 4th, 2014 at 11:23 PM ^
It's pretty clear Hoke will be gone, unfortunately it is pretty clear we have to get through the season before he is actually fired. Hopefully we can get a new AD in the next month, then the new AD can start the search process to kick hoke after the OSU game and get the new staff on board as early as can be
October 4th, 2014 at 11:24 PM ^
At this point, it probably needs to happen, Hoke being removed from his current post, at least in my opinion, but I will say that there was a time when I thought that this might be it for us. That is to say, that it might get better under Hoke, but I think bad management inside the AD and bad management on the field makes Hoke, well, not the future of Michigan, at least if we want it to be what we know it can be.
October 4th, 2014 at 11:31 PM ^
This blog once wrote a post titled "We are ND."
Sadly, "We are Nebraska" would even be an upgrade.
October 5th, 2014 at 12:39 AM ^
of what we can. There is no better compliment to a program than stating that i care's about it's players and does everything it can to prepare them for life beyond football. That to me is what makes Michigan football a great program. Are we going to have winning season's and NC's under Hoke? No probably not. But at least we have a coach that cares what happens to our player's once they leave our great University. I'll take that everyday over a Saban, Meyer, Dantionio.
October 4th, 2014 at 11:28 PM ^
Hoke is a great person who loves and cares for his team and Michigan football. I know that the results aren't exactly what we would like, but we NEED to be patient and keep believing in our staff. At the very least he needs to be given the rest of this year and 2015, and in fact I believe there is a strong case for giving him the 2016 season. Anyways, Hoke is an amazing person and a caring coach who runs the program the right way. The saying around here is "we'd rather lose the right way, then win the wrong way". Well we're seeing the results of that and we just have to tough it out during this downtime. Good times under Hoke are coming.
October 4th, 2014 at 11:33 PM ^
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I care about the kids and I like people and I'm nice. I'll coach the football team "the right way" for a mere $1 million/year and lose every game, but at least I'll be nice.
October 4th, 2014 at 11:46 PM ^
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October 4th, 2014 at 11:42 PM ^
Brady Hoke is a terrible coach. Even his friends are jumping ship on him; i.e. Whitlock
October 4th, 2014 at 11:44 PM ^
October 5th, 2014 at 12:31 AM ^
I want to give him more time because he actually cares for the welfare of our team. He gives a shit about what actually happens to our players outside of football. That to me means a hell of a lot more than some stupid win over Rutgers. Let Saban, Dantionio, and Meyer win all the games, but have they had any truly positive influence over the kids they coach? My guess is that it's not even close to the impact Hoke has had on ours. So please forgive me for being a loser if I place the welfare our player's future over a few mere wins.
October 5th, 2014 at 12:53 AM ^
Coach Hoke, don't you have more important things you could be doing than posting on mgoblog? Not exactlys a good use of 4M annual salary
October 4th, 2014 at 11:47 PM ^
state the case! Hoke won't be fired during the season and I am okay with that. But I would be fascinated to hear your case, let alone a "strong case", for keeping him in 2015 let alone 2016. His record to date and the regression of the team is the very definition of no case.