This is maaaaybe premature there, ESPN. Maryland #1 FWIW.
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- Michigan did run some two-high safeties at less than 10 yards from the LOS. I charted 11 snaps of this against run plays, with great success except for one play.
- Michigan installed a new scheme for Plan A this week--the 3-3-5. If it's willing to do that, why not have Plan A be the 2-high zone with safeties close?
|23 hours 27 min ago||I don't think returning starter at QB is all that important||
Last 6 National Champs:
|5 days 6 hours ago||Seth and I got into this a little on the twitter on NSD||
But Don Brown need not be told twice:
Now assume that Rashan is the Tackle (T):
In "EAGLE 4" he'd be a 3-tech.
In "HAWK 3," he'd be a 5-tech and, against pro-I, on the outside and be an edge rusher vs. pass.
These are a couple of his 3-4 fronts. So rest assured, Don Brown is way ahead of you, and he knows how to use a player of this quality.
|1 week 10 min ago||Long||
Hudson's film was supposed to have wow-factor athleticism, and it did. Then I watched some on Long and thought he was even more athletic, definitely faster than Hudson.
|4 weeks 4 days ago||Coughlin story||
I once attended a coaching clinic at which I saw Steve Szabo speak. Steve is a long-time NFL guy but has had some collegiate stops, including here at Michigan. At the time of this particular clinic, he was a position coach with the Jacksonville Jaguars, but he was also on Tom Coughlin's staff at Boston College.
During one of their coaching staff meetings, Coughlin asked, by a show of hands, who had coached in high school. Well, everyone with the exception of Szabo raised their hands. Upon noticing this, Coughlin looked at Szabo and said, "You're the worst coach in this room." His reason? Coughlin believed that teaching high school kids the game is the best way to learn it.
A lot of coaches don't respect coaches at lower levels, but clearly Coughlin doesn't. Nor does Jim Harbaugh, who recently said something to the effect that a good coach is a good coach, no matter the level of football at which he plies his trade.
|5 weeks 2 days ago||QED||
"We didn't come here to play school" + National Title ring + starter + eligible for draft = CYA!
|5 weeks 2 days ago||Tony Gibson||
Come on down! You're the next contestant on _________________________________!
|6 weeks 2 hours ago||Not really a reply, but||
I think it's appropriate to get the embed above the fold, so to speak.
|7 weeks 2 days ago||In my opinion||
Harbs be all like:
|8 weeks 1 day ago||What I think we should run||
6-2 Stack Monster
|8 weeks 1 day ago||Here goes||
Auburn had 3 weeks to prep, OSU only had 1. I wouldn't say OSU stuffed Oregon; the Ducks had over 450 yards in 22 minutes of possession. The key to the OSU win was the 3rd down conversion battle, Oregon penalties (10/75), and red zone offset the TO margin. Yards per play weren't a whole lot different; OSU just got to run more plays.
This is the universal truth of sports.
Again, the Miss State D was effective in 1999 and 2000, before offenses learned how to scheme against it. This D would get carved up against 2015 spread offense.
|8 weeks 2 days ago||Welp||
A lot of highly-respected defensive minds are resolved that they're going to give up yards and points defending a good, up-tempo, spread attack.
As we all know, Rich Rod made it famous, then Randy Walker and Northwestern made it infamous in these parts in 2000. Shortly thereafter, a new defensive scheme at Mississippi State created by DC Joe Lee Dunn was slowing down spread offenses, and even shutting some down. The defense? 3-3-5 stack.
This defense was successful primarily because offensive coaches had never seen it before, and none of the blocking rules accounted for the alignment. Additionally, Joe Lee had a concept in his D called "SPD" which stood for "Stem/Prowl/Disguise." Every player on the defense had freedom--the D-Line could stem into different shades and gaps, the LBs could prowl in and out of gaps, and the DBs could disguise their look amongst press, off, inside/outside shade, safety depth, etc.
So the spread run game against the 3-3-5 stack was stifled to a large degree. Moreover, Joe Lee was a blitz-happy fool
Not only did the offense have to figure out blocking rules, they had to figure out who was where and what the D was actually in. I sat in meetings w/Joe Lee and other DCs from his tree where we'd watch film and the DC himself couldn't tell what the play call was pre-snap a lot of the time. He either had to read the play list or he had to wait until the ball was snapped and see who ended up where.
Eventually, opposing coaches found a solution. (They always do.)
The 3-3-5 stack of Joe Lee Dunn would always keep the 3-3 in the box, and the 5 DBs would align over the 5 eligible receivers, so almost always there would be one DB in the deep middle b/c the 5th receiver was the RB (empty formations the exception). In other words, the defense always used 1-high coverages. Once offensive guys figured this out, they would run a ton of 1-high "beaters." Additionally, these coaches also installed blocking schemes to account for the 3-3 stack (and zone blocking doesn't care what the structure of the defensive box is).
But I think the general philosophy to stop (or perhaps slow down) the modern spread is to A) be creative, B) be confusing, C) use hybrid personnel, and D) use multiple fronts and high safety looks. I don't buy the notion that the DL has to be able to substitute due to fatigue. You can't tell me that the OL on the other side of the ball will always be in better physical condition, and they don't ever sub mid-series.
|9 weeks 2 days ago||You can unrest, assured||
McElwain and the Gators will install read option for this game. They'll have film on us (duh) and they run out of the spread. They haven't run read yet, but I'm guessing that's b/c they had a passer and then had to adjust on the fly. Now, with 3+ weeks to prepare, they know their QB can't throw accurately at all but is a good athlete, and that we've been horrendous defending read option. Hopefully Michigan won't assume they won't run the QB b/c they haven't all season.
|9 weeks 4 days ago||Ugly?||
|9 weeks 4 days ago||No||
But not b/c Durkin doesn't know what he's doing. In fact, I think he's excellent. (Harbaugh wouldn't have hired him otherwise.)
We shouldn't be broken hearted b/c Harbaugh will have no problem replacing him. When Butch Davis contacts you and asks for an interview (as is rumored on the Rivals premium message board), you know that nobody's got it better than us.
|9 weeks 4 days ago||Not only about alignment but also coverage||
Since Michigan's safety and nickel are in man coverage, they don't play the run unless their man blocks. Unfortunately, the way to "block" a man-to-man DB is to run a go route, taking him literally 40 yards from the play with his back turned. Three WRs doing that plus a free safety at 20 yards who's backpedalling on the snap leaves 7 in the box to defend the run against 8 offensive players (5 OL, H back, QB, TB).
Were my diaries unclear? (Seriously, not snotty.)
|9 weeks 4 days ago||Phil!||
Phil and I drove through a blizzard to Happy Valley and attended the "snowball" game in 1995. 18 inches of snow hit there on a Tuesday and they couldn't get all the snow out of the stadium, so they shoved a bunch up under the bleachers. Our feet were literally on ice for 3.5 hours, and walking out after a tough loss, I couldn't feel anything from the ankles down. Penn State fans are still the friendliest fan base I've encountered to this day. And if you ever go there, the Rathskeller is a must.
|9 weeks 4 days ago||Aw shucks||
To Seth and MGoBlog Nation:
Seriously, thanks for all the compliments.
I only do this b/c I love Michigan Football and I want to help people understand so they don't go off ignorantly (which I probably have done in spades).
I use my real name not for notoriety, but b/c I don't want to hide behind an anonymous user name. People are a lot more courageous when their identity can't be tied to their expressions. It's kind of an anti-secret identity belief.
By the way, I get a lot of flak from my coaching buddies about doing this, and am probably scuttling any chance I have at a high profile coaching gig. And that's okay with me; I gave up that dream years ago. Like The Rock says, "know your role."
|9 weeks 4 days ago||Adams House||
The ultimate sausage fest.
Yes, ST3, that is me/us. And the "fantastic athletes" part is definitely 25 years old.
|10 weeks 2 days ago||Thanks||
Went back to the 2nd one and reread my last sentence:
I didn't turn the game off, but I knew we were done watching the drive to make it 21-10. It was clear we weren't going to do what was required and at that point we'd never catch up b/c we'd never get a stop. We essentially got stops on the first two drives (the 2nd being extended by the roughing call) then none until garbage time. Even worse, we only got them to 3rd and long twice in that span. In fact, almost all of them were 3rd and short (when we managed to stop them on 1st and 2nd downs).
|10 weeks 2 days ago||I get what you're saying, and||
I get what you're saying, and I agree, two-high wouldn't have been in Michigan's comfort zone. However, two things:
|10 weeks 2 days ago||Don't know about that play||
And I can go back and check, but the long pass over Jourdan Lewis happened when we were playing with Wilson at 20+ yards deep at free safety, and a man short in the box.
Against spread option, only cornerbacks over a WR should be far removed from the box.
|10 weeks 2 days ago||Adam Schnepp asked Coach Harbaugh in the post-game presser||
His answer was that he doesn't discuss schematics with the press and, consequently, the public.
|10 weeks 2 days ago||I hear you, but not entirely fair to Durkin||
We can only speculate about whether or not his involvement with the Maryland (and/or other open jobs) interferred with him focusing on this game.
One thing we can say: it's not a good look to the players or fans.
|10 weeks 2 days ago||Some thoughts||
First, let me add to the statistics:
The biggest problem I have is Durkin actually had an answer and failed to go to it as 2nd half's Plan A. This isn't HS or even FCS or D2. This is a big-time D1 program with a full allotment of assistant coaches, Graduate Assistants (GAs), Quality Control coaches, and student managers. To either not have the first half data or to choose to ignore it is reprehensible.
Also, I'm put off by those that suggest it was a personnel issue. Yes, OSU has a lot of NFL talent, but some of that is on the defensive side of the ball. Utah has Devonte Booker and we stoned him in the first game, against a top 20 team on the road in a new scheme. MSU has a 1st round left tackle in Jack Conklin and the Spartans earned 58 yards on 33 carries. Hawaii, the #120 S&P defense (#79 against the run), held the Bucks to 182 yards on 39 carries, with Elliott going for 101 on 27 totes (3.74 YPC).
Early in the season, you say? Minnesota (which I'm pretty sure doesn't have better personnel on D than us, and if they do, it's not by much) held the Bucks to 189 yards on 44 carries (4.4 YPC) and Elliott to 114 on 26 (4.4 YPC). That game was played in Columbus, in November (11/7).
Here's some of Michigan's season stats, split out:
EDIT: Let me add that I hope everyone takes this only as a criticism of Durkin vs. the spread option offense this season, and particularly in this game. Overall, Durkin is a hell of a coach. I absolutely do not think he's anything less than above average and I don't think for one second he should be fired. Hopefully he stays with us and simply does some research on how to stop the spread.
Also, I think one difficulty may be that you have as a program philosophy that this program is preparation for the NFL, and you only incorporate what NFL teams do. NFL teams do not run defenses that run any form of option b/c they don't see it. Again, how would we defend Georgia Tech or Navy? With NFL schemes? God I hope not.
If the #1 philosophy of this program is The Team, etc. and based on competition, then the coaches should be no different and choose schemes that have the best chance to succeed. Bump man across the board with a 20+ yard deep free safety against spread option isn't such.
|10 weeks 4 days ago||Don't buy the "came out flat" boilerplate||
Only down 4 at half...outgaining, more first downs, 8/11 on 3rd down. Then the second half happened. 28-3, utter domination in all phases. If we came out flat, it would've happened from the opening bell.
Harbaugh and the offensive staff did all they could with the cards they had, but the D has an all-american corner, a fantastic DL and that Peppers guy. We are just as talented as any D the Bucks have faced, if not more so. And the D is just as talented as MSU, 1 to 11. We don't have a Calhoun, but the DE is not solely responsible for stopping the run.
Defensive scheme lost the game, plain and simple.
|10 weeks 4 days ago||Coaching loss||
Durking & D staff lost this game. Failed to have enough #s in the box; man short against run all day except for a handful of snaps.
I can hear Brian at the press conference, to Durkin: "DO YOU KNOW WHAT A COUNTABLE BOX IS?!?"
|11 weeks 8 hours ago||Space||
Have you charted any of the OSU offense as far as data is concerned? Or do you at least have a feel for what they're most successful with this year? Seems like what they killed with in the B1G title game and CFP games isn't being used much this year, with Herman gone.
|11 weeks 18 hours ago||I see your point, and it's a good one||
Henry's in a 3-tech, so he needs to get his hands on the guard. If he does, it's illegal for the tackle to cut him. Furthermore, it keeps Bolden clean.
But, they kind of work hand-in-hand. Our DLs have been coached to get upfield with the track stance/replace the first step technique. Well, you can't tell them to play that way and demand they get their hands on a fast-moving lateral step and rip by the OL.
Additionally, even if Henry kept the guard at the line, then the tackle free releases to the 2nd level, and he has a great angle to cut Bolden off.
The bottom line is that no matter what Henry did, the ball definitely would've gone in that backside A gap, and that was Bolden's gap. The scheme assigned that gap to a player also in man coverage. RPS -2.
|11 weeks 21 hours ago||Sorry||
This wasn't clear.
on this play he was not put in a position to be successful against that play.
I should've written, "on this snap he wasn't put in a position to be successful against outside zone away from him."
|11 weeks 1 day ago||Well||
There is an additional factor on the big run: blitz.
We are blitzing Dymonte Thomas off the edge, and he has QB, so none of the LBs need to worry about the pull read. Only one player on D should be on that in his read.
What makes it hard is that since Thomas is blitzing, the backside ILB (Bolden) now has the TE in man coverage, so now there's a guy in the box who is primarily a pass player. You can see the wings of his helmet pointing right at the TE.
This delays him getting his run read, and since he's aligned to cover the TE, that's a double whammy when he's trying to protect his gap, which is all the way to the A gap. And it's asking the impossible to assign him to that gap against stretch away from him. I've had my issues with Bolden this season, but on this play he was not put in a position to be successful against that play.
Ain't that right, Zeke?