Only the transactional schools please.
lol did you see Courtney Morgan at UW is also using the "transformational" talking point?
Let's be the transformational conference. They can't all go to Alabama and Clemson.
There will be murder
GT, UVA, UNC, and Duke says the ghost of Jim Delany
I would take UNC and UVA
But I didn’t see any of those schools in Ghost of Jermaine’s swim lanes.
I assume Stanford, Cal, UW, and Oregon are poking around to see if they can find a home.
I do wonder if this also means ND is going to seriously consider joining the ACC (if that survives) since I'm guessing USC and Stanford are going to seriously reduce how often they schedule ND with a Big 10 slate ahead of them.
Everyone in the PAC 12 is on the phone to Kevin Warren talking up what television markets they bring to the table.
ND choices are either stay independent, beg BIG to join without AAU status, or hold their nose and join the SEC. They aren’t going down on a sinking ship (ACC).
“Beg the B1G to join.”
What fantasy world do you live in?
The B1G would bend over to get ND to join.
You hate ND, but thinking ND would have to be beg anybody, especially the conference that has been throwing money at ND to join for decades, even offering to buy out their ACC contract through 2036…is the silliest thing I’ve seen in a while.
I’m not young but I’m also not old enough to understand why ND has the perceived national sway that people presume it to have. They are an archaic catholic school that plays in a mid-major stadium off the tollway.
Norte Dame isn’t part of the AAU, doesn’t add anything to the BTAA. ND is not on the same level as the rest of the Big Ten in terms of research dollars and graduate and post graduate prestige. The presidents of the universities make the decision on who gets in. ND is not a shoe in.
I don't want Notre Dame. They snubbed us. We don't take exes back.
With all the destruction of tradition, amateurism, and college spirit going on by now... I just want our conference to piss off the SEC as much as possible at this point.
Let me guess - we swap Indiana for Cal and Oregon, then Oregon gets traded to the SEC for a team to be named later and cash considerations. Northwestern gets a Rule 5 pick plus a 2nd round pick in the 2024 NBA Draft. Meanwhile, the Big Ten will also swap Rutgers and Maryland for Stanford, but the Pac-12 will give Rutgers to the MAC in exchange for part ownership of the Advance Auto Parts in Fairfield, Ohio. Notre Dame joins the Mountain West on the condition that by 2032, there is an actual geographic feature resembling a mountain in South Bend. Utah moves to the Big Ten West and we send Ohio State to the ACC for Wake Forest and a bag of expired cashews.
Am I close?
Yep, nail on the head.
How many first round picks do we get?
missed two things
1. i heard it was a bag of stale pistachios
2. michigan somehow gets screwed
If we're poaching in Fairfield OH we damn well better be getting a share of Jungle Jim's.
It’s funny you mention the Advance Auto in Fairfield OH. Why specifically that one? There’s a reason I’m asking.
Let's get Stanford and put the screws to ND
Honestly the best thing to come from this would be if the Big Ten sort of made a Second Ivy, with Michigan, UCLA, Berkeley, and UVA, with Stanford, Northwestern, and Duke, as well as Hopkins and Chicago vibing out in the corner too.
Soldier Field in Chicago will need a tenant soon. Give Chicago a turbo-boost from the new TV contract and bring back the Maroons!
You forgot Wisconsin. 3rd on the QS list in the B16
This doesn't make much sense unless it's a complete merger. Even then doesn't make sense. Maybe Wazzu & OSU get left in the dust? That'd still be a 24 team league.
UCLA and USC per ESPN
I think this is implying there are more after that
lol sneaky underrated post right here.
Cal and Stanfurd plz
i'd love to see my beloved Cal Bears get smoked in AA
Those schools make sense from an academics and TV market standpoint (San Francisco/San Jose). I don't know how big the Seattle market is, but UW makes sense there. I don't know what Oregon brings besides Phil Knight and ugly unis.
Seattle is roughly comparable to Detroit and Minneapolis as a TV market. Top 15ish. Oregon brings quality play on the field, which I don’t mind taking on if you’re bringing them in alongside a group of academic/media related teams.
At some point you have to make moves to compete on the field with the SEC too.
ND and the B1G are gonna finally get together! I'm so happy that they've ended the will they/won't they thing. It's gone on for too many seasons.
So I am assuming this new expansion is for football only?
BTN talking about playing in Pauley pavilion
so I think not
the LA schools already have to fly far for most games as is
Once you're getting on a plane, it doesn't really matter that much how long the flight is, does it? Unless we're expanding into New Zealand or something....
If Oregon comes can them and Maryland have some kind of Nike vs Under Armor apparel backed school UNIFORMZ death match when they play??
If we can snag Stanford, Oregon, Washington and ND we would have all of the TV markets/subscribers we could dream of.
I could dream of more.
Yeah just off the top of my head: Georgia Tech (Atlanta), Duke/NC (Raleigh-Durham), Colorado (Denver)
I don't think Georgia tech really gives you the Atlanta market and with cable bundles dying off for subscription services I would think number of fans in large markets matters more than just getting into a market
I don't think that GT gets you the Atlanta market now, but it might if they were given the rejuvenating shot of joining the B1G.
That’s not at all how it works in the eyes of the media companies that are bidding on the TV contracts. Bids are going through the roof and it’s certainly not because Rutgers is popular in NYC or Maryland is popular in DC. It’s because of the amount of people they can charge for these games, whether they watch them or not.
I just watched CBS Sports HQ and they said a couple things.
They said there is probably going to be two super conferences like the NFL by the time this is all over.
That there won’t be enough good programs to create a third.
Talked to Brady Quinn about ND.
Mentioned that an unofficial bidding war has begun over which direction ND goes because the ACC & SEC will link up and ND’s partnership through 2036 could lead them that direction. But the NBC contract ends soon & ND might use that to move away from their current deals. Said the phone is ringing off the hook at ND from other AD’s about what they are going to do.
One dude joked Jack Swarbrick might negotiate a deal where ND could bounce back & forth between the super conferences to remain an “independent.”
Fuck the Irish!!! Let them stay independent and see who they schedule
I thought this was about recruiting.
Sad panda
I think they should name the new division in the west the Pac and some number that they settle on.
We are in the endgame now.
*Straps On Tin Foil Hat*
1 - The B1G adds USC and UCLA to the conference. Giving it 16 members.
2 - The B1G also adds the Bay Area's finest schools to lock up California. Giving it 18 members:
- Cal
- Stanford
3 - The SEC adds in the most of the southern schools in the ACC. Giving it 22 members:
- Miami
- FSU
- Georgia Tech
- Clemson
- UNC
- Duke
4 - The B1G adds in more Pac12 teams. Giving it 22 members:
- Washington
- Oregon
- Utah
- Colorado
5 - The SEC adds the rest of the major Texas and Oklahoma schools to the fold Giving it 25 members:
- Baylor
- Texas Tech
- Oklahoma State
6 - The B1G adds a longtime target and 2 solid academic schools. Giving it 25 members
- Notre Dame
- Virginia
- Virginia Tech
7 - Who is not in one of the power 2 conferences yet scrambles to join in before it is too late. Of this list below, only a few teams are added for the time being but may be added in the years ahead. What remains joins whats left of the NCAA.
- Syracuse
- Pitt
- Iowa State
- Boston College
- Arizona
- ASU
- Kansas
- Kansas State
- Oregon State
- BYU
8 - The two conferences break away completely from the NCAA (If they haven't already) and for their own NCAA-like entity.
9 - An expanded 16 team playoff is built, and college sports are unrecognizable across the board.
then we can get away from the NCAA baseball season
:)
and play in the late spring-summer