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|18 hours 2 min ago||The more I think about this||
the more I like UCLA. We probably get enough exposure in SEC country anyway, and there is probably more willingness on the part of West Coast kids to consider other schools than there would be anywhere else. USC and Stanford wouldn't do it because of the ND series, and there is enough similarity between us and UCLA that it could really get going as a thing.
|18 hours 5 min ago||I'll put some money down||
and get my grad school tuition on a college softball game!
|18 hours 11 min ago||Basically||
it looks like Rutgers and Maryland slot in behind the "powers" of the B1G, but ahead of the trash, meaning they might work out OK enough.
|18 hours 27 min ago||Would you be referring||
to a change to getting more 5.9 recruits as opposed to 5.8, or a general shift to more four stars and higher, and less three stars? Also, nice Borges quote for a signature.
|1 day 11 hours ago||It has||
to be a Southern school, basically, in order to boost recruiting. UGA or Florida or UT would be my choices. West Coast could end up in a rematch in the Rose Bowl, and besides USC, there isn't a school that is really consistently good (Stanford has moments, UCLA was bad for a while, and who knows about Oregon?)
|2 days 6 hours ago||According to ESPN||
6 out of 24 top 150 "East" (which includes VA) players went to a B1G school, plus 2 more to Pitt or Notre Dame, which are in the B1G footprint currently. Seven went to the ACC not counting Pitt and Notre Dame, 6 went to the ACC, and the rest went out West. It seems to me if there becomes a fight for the top players in the region, the SEC won't be super affected, as it didn't have a school there to begin with. I could see the shift take place in whether Maryland and Rutgers can take a few guys who might otherwise have gone to an ACC school, or if one of the good B1G East programs can get another couple guys to come there due to proximity. Out of the 2014 guys, there are 16 in the top 150, and 2 have already committed to Michigan and 3 going to the ACC. The Big East is effectively gone, so that will no longer be a player. There are 3-4 who might still go to a B1G program (Peppers, Hand, Brown, with Tabor an OSU lean), and I haven't heard about any of the other guys, so it's likely they end up at an ACC or SEC school, which would mean the breakdown could be 5-6 B1G commits out of 16, and maybe higher, as I don't follow PSU recruiting, and don't know who Rutgers could land, so it is an improvement.
|2 days 10 hours ago||A lot of this||
will be psychological and show itself over time. It seems like with the SEC, there is this really intense regionalism that says someone from Virginia should go to Auburn because it's "close to home" (which maybe it is because of the southernness). I could see the same thing going on over time with the B1G, if kids from New Jersey or something suddenly see Michigan as a "local" school, as it's no farther from NJ than Florida is from Alabama, and all the fairly close schools in major conferences locally just aren't at a super high level.
|2 days 16 hours ago||1. At least with Utah||
they would not have likely done it if they had landed the Texas and Oklahoma schools.
2. And WV is the counterexample to proximity as it is. I just figured all things being equal, they might be skeptical of picking up several schools from not contiguous states, as most conferences who do that don't last.
3. They are desirable to the B1G, and if they become an avenue to further ACC raiding, they do become strategically important (there is also academics, though that might be moot)
4. Though GT is in a large football region, no one is that interested in them except maybe some alumni/they don't recruit well and aren't contiguous as it stands, which not absolutely mandatory, really hurts them as they aren't a slam dunk financially like FSU would be.
5. The issue is more that once some schools get out, there would be a mass exodus of every school that ever thought about leaving while they still could, hence eventual destruction.
6. My understanding is that we did however set off the whole expansion thing by mentioning it as something we were looking into, which pushed everyone to act in reaction. Now, everyone is on alert, and is making a decision for their best interests, but everything is fairly stable right now, so someone would have to disturb the order to change things.
7. But, we wouldn't take Okie State without OU, and neither is right academically, so the point is moot.
8. Yeah, that is largely correct.
9. They are a great basketball school in a new market, and would probably help much more than NC State, and in that scenario, UNC would go to the B1G, so they would be the only NC school on the table.
|3 days 15 hours ago||Places||
where lots of people live, and have some potential interest in college football.
|3 days 16 hours ago||I mean||
it's just strange that there would be such discrepancy if what Magnus says is true in that Rivals is all like "Well, we know they suck" and ESPN is all like "We know they're awesome". Especially considering that they aren't likely to lose a fourth star on ESPN, and aren't likely to gain one on Rivals.
|3 days 17 hours ago||*Crown jewels||
in terms of academic prestige, recruiting states, and being in good demographic areas. I kind of assumed that anything south of North Carolina was out, though you could substiute Duke for UVA, and the argument would still hold.
|4 days 13 hours ago||It is somewhat||
fascinating to me that all these good academic schools are using that pretty well these days to get football players. There will always be the Ohio's of the world, but the schools that can see a good education too seem to be doing pretty well for themselves (Michigan, Northwestern, Stanford, Vandy, UVA, etc.)
|4 days 15 hours ago||My skepticism with Brown coming here||
is perhaps similar to my skepticism of Peppers not going here: he has taken so many visits to a certain place, it's damn hard for others to catch up.
|4 days 18 hours ago||Though||
some of the more generic three stars might bump up, so it could even out.
|4 days 18 hours ago||Don't you mean...||
|4 days 18 hours ago||I agree with the odds comment||
obviously 5* are 5* for the reason that they are considered really freaking good, so everyone wants them, but if we increase the number visiting, we increase the likelihood some commit. I would personally like to have a class like USC's last year (pre-implosion, and without money changing hands).
|4 days 18 hours ago||NO ELISHA SHAW?!||
BUT HIS HAND MOVES ARE SO GOOD!
|1 week 14 hours ago||I think||
it will probably go like it goes every year, in that we lose a couple people we think should go here, and gain some people at the last minute we weren't counting on. We probably won't stay at 1 because the class is smaller than some, but it seems like if we get a good number of who we think we'll get, we should stay in the top 5 or so, which is probably all that matters.
|1 week 15 hours ago||Bars is gone to ND||
|1 week 18 hours ago||Possibly wishful thinking||
but I know in years past ESPN has been the least kind to us rating-wise overall (they had us at 7 in 2012, and Scout had us at 4, 6 in 2013, Scout at 2, etc.), so could this odd flip in bullishness be maybe because ESPN has evaluated our prospects more recently? I know a couple places haven't really looked at people for a few months, so they might bump up soon enough.
|1 week 1 day ago||The plot thickens||
Isis Taylor got in touch with this Shaw character, and is doing some "recruiting" for USC: http://outkickthecoverage.com/the-four-star-the-porn-star-and-me.php
|1 week 1 day ago||But||
are there Billies?
|1 week 2 days ago||Dammit||
you are right and I am wrong.
|1 week 2 days ago||Virginia Tech||
could go here as well.
|1 week 2 days ago||It's a reasonable fear||
and I won't count on it until he makes the announcement, but it just seems like all signs are pointing to us right now. Think of Green, where he had taken tons of visits here, and hadn't really been focusing on other places. This feels similar. Peppers has been here multiple times, and can't even make it out to his presumed 2 (Stanford) to visit before he decides? With a second visit to a program that is close to him, but destroyed for the forseeable future (PSU)? And maybe casual interest in an SEC school that really has very few of the qualities that the other schools have (such as academics)? It would just feel surprising if he picked someplace else at this point, though stranger things have happened. Bottom line: It would be absolutely amazing if he picked us, and so people are excited. If he doesn't, oh well, we'll be fine.
|1 week 2 days ago||Does anyone||
know a time? Last time we were recruiting a five star player (Green), I was out of the house when he announced, so I hope to do the same this time.
|1 week 4 days ago||An encouraging thing||
is that Brian actually seems to be excited about even the lower regarded prospects, which makes me curious about what he will say about the highly rated prospects.
|1 week 5 days ago||It makes it sound more sinister||
than it probably is. It's not a vast, secret conspiracy to not suck. Every program tries to not suck, and if they are able to get a bunch of 3 stars to show up despite sanctions, what's the big deal?
|1 week 6 days ago||It's hard to say||
before anyone actually plays or attends a practice, but he sounds athletic with a lot of upside (and if we made the mistake, then Ohio was perfectly willing to make the same mistake, as well as OU, etc., and those are no slouch football schools)
|2 weeks 1 day ago||Actually||
I noticed a couple days ago that at least according to Rivals and 247, even the B1G is recruiting better than the Big 12. Our top two recruiting classes were both in the top 5, with Nebraska in the top 25, and the Big 12 didn't even have a single program in the top 15, with their third out of the top 25. So, as much as we rip on the B1G, the Big 12 is now having a hard time doing much, and we will probably see it get worse in the years ahead.