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So, I can sort of give loose…

So, I can sort of give loose advice based on personal experience, but I was a polisci/history major, and always knew I was going to grad school. If I had to do it all over again, I don't regret personally going that way (because I loved those areas), but they aren't lucrative.

Fast forward a bit later, and I fell into accounting with no background in it (though did eventually get a business degree so I could pretend to know what I'm doing). I would caution going into anything too tech-heavy at this point, because coding seems to be going away, and I keep seeing a lot of people doing ML/LLM seeming very dissatisfied.

 

Anything finance/business will probably put you in good stead, but I would definitely agree with people below saying that it should ideally be something he's at least kind of into, or will stick with. Better to make OK money with something you want to do long-term versus good money for something you'll burn out on in a couple years. I say this because I was about to say "don't go into advertising", but then you hear about people doing that and making good money, and accountants are usually not rich, but basically as long as you care about something enough to be good at it, you'll do alright.

Thank you!

Thank you!

Yeah, but you have to…

Yeah, but you have to realize that Harbaugh was always unlikely to stay forever. He left Stanford because he was never going to win an NC, and the NFL came calling. He got pushed out, and a natural fit was to come to his alma mater. Obviously the last three years have been awesome, but the start was rough, and he was flirting with the NFL for a couple years. Someone finally made him a good offer, so he took the promotion.

I understand it sucks that Minter and Herbert are leaving, but people take promotions all the time, and Moore is young, while being a continuation of the culture that won big for us. In some ways this is just us being a victim of our own success.

Personally I am closing on a…

Personally I am closing on a house on Wednesday

So this is as someone who…

So this is as someone who just followed the Lions a little bit late in the season, but it kind of seems like they're a decent secondary away from being consistently great. They have offensive firepower, just needed a few stops. I suspect they'll be competitive as long as the current HC and owner stay the same.

In further parallels, both…

In further parallels, both took over historic clubs that were in pretty rough shape when they took them over, and had insanely talented rivals that they went toe-to-toe with.

Common answer, but had to be…

Common answer, but had to be OSU 2021, and sealed by winning in 2022 at their place. This was not the teams of yore that let the moment be too big. These teams just won, and had the will and the talent. That was not something I had seem before in all my fandom (started at Michigan in 2009).

This. I think Klatt and…

This. I think Klatt and Cowherd were talking, and basically said he didn't have to make many high-level throws against UW, and might really benefit his stock by coming back. That seems potentially right to me, plus he won't be hurting for NIL money at this point.

The late Rich Rod years…

The late Rich Rod years going into the Hoke search. Man those were some times.

Yeah, for sure. As a…

Yeah, for sure. As a conference, we're kinda light on "elite" private schools, but do have a very good number of research-intensive public schools, which tend to do better in global rankings than US rankings.

Us poaching a lot of the old…

The dreaded double post. I'll use this to say that if we really wanted academic DOMINANCE, we would have picked up Stanford and Cal when we had the chance.

Us poaching a lot of the old…

Us poaching a lot of the old Pac 12 also really changes the conference hierarchy. We're now the second best school in the conference (behind UCLA), and just ahead of Washington.

Depending on if you count Hopkins in lacrosse, we have six of the top 50 universities in the world now, with Wisconsin just out of it at 63.

Actually even more so when…

Actually even more so when you look at THE World University Rankings. Both in the top 25: https://www.timeshighereducation.com/world-university-rankings/2024/world-ranking

Oh yeah, this has been…

Oh yeah, this has been brewing for awhile. Pretty sure PA is having this same issue right now. The big flagships will be fine, but in these northern states with declining population, a lot of regional schools are taking huge hits, and campuses are just imploding in a lot of ways. At the same time, there is bound to be massive pushback politically to closing them.

Feels like when you get a…

Feels like when you get a job offer and someone wants to call you, versus a rejection where it's a polite email at best.

I mean not to be a shit, but…

I mean not to be a shit, but for most of the year except for OSU that was...true. It's not exactly bulletin board material, is it?

I've had this thought too…

I've had this thought too. In the NFL, there are always younger guys coming in who could beat you out/teams go into the FA market, etc. If someone can do your job better, you're out.

It's an interesting question…

It's an interesting question, and I feel like there's some real nuance to it. If you're just taking anyone to have bodies, that's definitely not a good sign.

I also feel like if we had an established starter and took a transfer over them, that would be bad; that said, if there's a dogfight at a high impact position (re: Center or OT), then having some guys who have been able to start at a previous school/are seen as very good walk in the door isn't bad.

Put it this way, do you want to be waiting in the wings at a school that wins a lot, or the man at a place that's .500?

Whoop!

Whoop!

Other choices include 42-27…

Other choices include 42-27 and potentially 3-9 if you want a cross-rivalry troll!

Isn't the correct answer 45…

Isn't the correct answer 45-23?

Ha, I'm up to three times…

Ha, I'm up to three times living in Philly, so I'm almost caught up to you

Logged in to say exactly…

Logged in to say exactly this.

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Has anyone heard anything…

Has anyone heard anything about the defensive back from Oklahoma who got carted off?

Nah, seems like at least a…

Nah, seems like at least a couple other guys agree with you.

I'm wondering if this is…

I'm wondering if this is just a bargaining chip. Like, it makes no sense to truly block UCLA from going, but maybe they're trying to get cash or consideration for Cal?

Well I just got an email…

I am pleased to announce that it is I, your next President. My first act is to make Taco Tuesday an official university policy.

Being touted as a "strength…

Being touted as a "strength in numbers" move, hoping to increase any bargaining power they have with their current broadcaster ESPN.

Yes, the pro teams seem to…

Yes, the pro teams seem to have their own in-house youth clubs.

I follow it a tiny bit, and people definitely seem to have issues with the number of oligarchs with shady backgrounds buying up clubs as playthings, too.

I don't think it's an awesome model to follow, but I could see us going that way more than the more egalitarian way I think some people are expecting CFB will go.

Totally get all this, but I…

Totally get all this, but I think the issue is that for a lot of people it's really hard to give up some guaranteed money up front with no guarantee for money later. It's sort of a "homo economicus" v. behavioral economics thing for me. Sure, if you ball out you can make a lot of money, but if you want/need money now I can see that being a factor that could tip you one way or another.

I agree with an above poster about having a relatively moderate base salary and then the potential for good earnings on top of that, as opposed to totally earning every cent you get.

Yeah, this makes a lot of…

Yeah, this makes a lot of sense to me; I don't know if strictly saying "here's a pile of cash" does the trick, and we can be more clever than that. That being said, I agree with the above poster that we might have to put up a bit of money upfront, as a lot of people might be very inclined to take money upfront than future benefits and we need to nod to that a bit.

We're also pretty much the…

We're also pretty much the only country in the world that operates under a salary cap arrangement in its major sports. Not seeing we shoud emulate this, but European soccer fits the exact opposite of the model you're advocating and seems to be doing...fine?

Yeah this is what I wonder…

Yeah this is what I wonder too. I worry the conference fucks this up somehow just to get bigger matchups, but if you had a couple protected rivalry games and just went to 10 conference games and rotated through everyone every few years it might be better, but my concern is they just game it so PSU/OSU/us/USC/UCLA all play each other every year for the ratings.

Yes, this has been my…

Yes, this has been my reaction to NIL as well, re: more European football than American. Big programs just have no incentive to handicap themselves with a salary cap, or even common sense if there are boosters willing to shell out the money. You'll see some teams able to hang out on the periphery of the big leagues and occasionally make some noise (IE Indiana is Everton), but the odds of a somewhat dormant brand like USC (Liverpool) being able to simply use money to be relevant again are way more likely than some middling team being able to rise up and win the whole thing.

I think this is where we get…

I think this is where we get into the distinction of "high level research university" v. Top 25 on USNWR. Utah usually holds up very well in terms of research dollars and is in the AAU, ditto Kansas and Arizona. No worse than MSU academically, at least for undergrad.

Agreed 100%. Honestly if …

Agreed 100%. Honestly if "all" that comes from this is that the Big Ten can basically become another Ivy, with say, 10-15 of the Top 50 global universities or whatever we end up at, that's actually probably way bigger than sports in some ways.

Yeah I can't imagine this is…

Yeah I can't imagine this is the end. I assume it's like, the more PAC teams you pull the less stable the rest of the league becomes, so you get Stanford in because two other California schools joined, and then a few more think they'd better get out when the getting's good.

I think this is implying…

I think this is implying there are more after that

Honestly the best thing to…

Honestly the best thing to come from this would be if the Big Ten sort of made a Second Ivy, with Michigan, UCLA, Berkeley, and UVA, with Stanford, Northwestern, and Duke, as well as Hopkins and Chicago vibing out in the corner too.

lol did you see Courtney…

lol did you see Courtney Morgan at UW is also using the "transformational" talking point?

Posted this elsewhere, but…

Posted this elsewhere, but this was interesting.

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Interesting comment on further possibilities.

I can see Arizona before GA…

I can see Arizona before GA Tech, but yeah, this is about how this will go. West Coast has the best/most vulnerable options.

This actually makes a lot of…

This actually makes a lot of sense and seems inevitable. The ACC was too locked up to poach, and the Big 12 had no one left. This was pretty much the last move that had upside.

I wonder if this is "shaking the tree" on the Pac 12, seeing if we can trigger a collapse and get the rest of the prime real estate out there.

I mean, doesn't this happen…

I mean, doesn't this happen in the pros all the time?

Yeah, there are a few like…

Yeah, there are a few like that. Brown, WashU, a few others.

Yeah, they're really strong…

Yeah, they're really strong in the hard sciences.

I always heard Peking was…

I always heard Peking was Harvard and Tsinghua was Yale, FWIW

So I heard once that when…

So I heard once that when USNWR started these rankings, schools like Michigan were placing "too high", so they rejiggered their rankings to basically include "Harvardness" as a criteria. IE a school like Notre Dame which is small with a large endowment would do really well relative to us, but in the world of research they are not particularly good, especially in harder sciences, which I guess would be a large basis of these international rankings.