Any update on Mike Hart?

Submitted by othernel on October 10th, 2022 at 9:21 AM

Haven't been any able to find anything from searching online and find it weird the university hasn't provided an update yet.

Hoping he's back home and healthy.

WolverineHistorian

October 10th, 2022 at 9:28 AM ^

I don’t think we’re going to hear any details just yet.  He did spend the night at the hospital in Bloomington on Saturday.  And he talked to Harbaugh on the phone at halftime…those sound like good signs to me.  

FrankX

October 10th, 2022 at 10:14 AM ^

100% correct.  However, anyone directly employed by the University, who is a medical provider, might be constrained.  It would be something for experts to sort out if the HIPAA rules applied to Michigan personnel since I am certain there were Michigan medical professionals that were engaged in the incident.

Beyond the 'Can they?' question, is "does Mike Hart want them to?"  An event like that can be a massive blow to ones worldview and may take some real time to know anything more concrete than "He is awake and talking." 

I really want coach Hart to be ok and am good with my 'need to know' being well down the list of concerns. 

Buy Bushwood

October 10th, 2022 at 10:23 AM ^

I am an alleged doctor. If he had a seizure for the first time, then there is either utter badness, like a tumor, correctible badness, like an issue of a medication reaction (as in perhaps he recently started a new medicine), issue of blood chemistry, infection, etc., or, lastly, new-onset primary epilepsy or another epileptiform condition.  As everyone knows, epilepsy is generally highly treatable and people lead fully normal lives.  Correctable issues like medication reaction, infection, are easy to definitively fix and will tend to be one-time events.  Glioblastomas, one of the most untreatable forms of cancer, are not.  This would already be known as he certainly received an MRI of the brain.  Given his age, the odds highly favor something that is quickly correctable, but there is an outside chance of true badness.  No matter what, he'll be under orders to get some rest. Here's hoping for the best.    

Niels

October 11th, 2022 at 1:42 PM ^

Good summary.

I would be a little less confident it's nothing major, although I obviously hope that that is the case.  

As you point out, it will be possible to check for a glio, etc. quickly with an MRI so hopefully they have moved on to something benign (med reaction and others) that they corrected or something more challenging that can be treated effectively. 

 

M Ascending

October 10th, 2022 at 9:38 AM ^

It can take 48 hours or more to run and analyze the evaluative tests, e.g., MRI, EEG etc. Wouldn't expect anything definitive until they're complete. I would like to know whether he's come home yet, however. 

Buy Bushwood

October 10th, 2022 at 10:49 AM ^

Pretty sure the Univ Hosp has the staff at all times and that a visiting coach collapsing on the sideline got VIP treatment and was moved to the front of the line.  There would have been residents on call and an attending, and they certainly gave preliminary reads to everything.  It may be a day or two for the full EEG read, but they certainly reviewed immediately, as getting some feedback quickly so that you know what further studies are indicated is time-sensitive with loss of consciousness.  

Buy Bushwood

October 10th, 2022 at 10:29 AM ^

Whatever it is, is likely completely known at this point, and if there was an MRI finding it was known within hours of completing the study. If there are no findings, which would be good, meaning no specific obvious badness, then there may be a continued work-up. Since they didn't show what happened (obviously they should not have) it's difficult for sure to know if it was a seizure, v. syncope.  Often times these things happen quickly and there's lots of commotion and people clustering in to help and everyone assumes it's a seizure because that's what laypeople describe, and it's actually an arrhythmia or some other cardiac cause. They've certainly looked for that as well, and done extensive heart monitoring, looked at his carotid arteries for thromboses, etc.  

bluebyyou

October 10th, 2022 at 12:49 PM ^

A treatable arrythmia...from your lips to God's ears.

I still have my fingers crossed that it is something minor or completely treatable.  I had a discussion with my wife, a radiologist, as they were treating Coach Hart, and she enumerated a long list of what could have caused a seizure or whatever it was they were emergently treating him for. Hart, as we all know, carried a huge load as Michigan's premiere RB for four years and then spent time in the pros.  

I wish Coach Hart well and hope that what happened Saturday is a minor hiccup in a long and successful career. 

ShadowStorm33

October 10th, 2022 at 10:15 AM ^

Actually I think it swings the other way. He's tight lipped about player health for competitive advantage reasons (similar to not naming starters before the first game in past seasons). There's really no competitive advantage to be had here, and this has gotten massive national coverage.

MGoGrendel

October 10th, 2022 at 9:40 AM ^

I've been wondering the same.  All the links are two days old and just talk about the event.  Hopeful that he's back on his feet soon.  Maybe we'll see him up in the booth rather than sidelines this Saturday.

UMfan21

October 10th, 2022 at 9:45 AM ^

From the limited experience I have with seizures (brother had 2, and a family friend's son has some seizures), I think it's usually rest and meds and then kind of ease back into life and see if you can find a trigger (stress, etc). 

My guess is Hart probably just takes some time off, eases back into his role (maybe at practices, not at game time), etc and they just go from there.

He may find a med that works and be totally fine, or he may end up like Jerry Kill where a certain level of stress can trigger one.    I wouldn't expect anyone to have that kind of info yet, and as other said it would be up to Hart if he wanted to share that info or not.

CincyBlue

October 10th, 2022 at 10:03 AM ^

Serious Question: Since Michigan has Fred Jackson on staff, can he temporarily step into the RB coach's role until Mike is back?  Or does that break the # of coaches rule?

ShadowStorm33

October 10th, 2022 at 10:25 AM ^

I'd have to think that it's an active coach thing; there's no logical reason that a team should be handicapped if one of the coaches have to take a leave of absence (though the NCAA is often illogical). 

And TBH, even if it's technically prohibited, this seems like one of the more likely areas we'd we willing to push boundaries. It sounds like, nation-wide, teams push the boundaries with their analysts providing actual coaching. Just last year for example, when defensive analyst Ryan Osborn left to take an assistant role with the Ravens, the way people talked about his work with the DEs made it sound like he was doing more than just hands-off support work...

jackw8542

October 10th, 2022 at 10:42 AM ^

https://247sports.com/college/michigan/Article/Mike-Hart-update-Michigan-RB-coach-back-in-Ann-Arbor-health-trending-positively-195172699/?utm_source=247Sports%2520Newsletter&utm_medium=Newsletter&utm_campaign=221010_092828_MichiganWolverines&utm_content=Image&eid=802f044cf45c3f84aeded228ee9fce8aed94584496a9d9d707c7f9c76c795ea9

According to this report, he says he is recovering, hopes to rejoin the team soon and will be heading to Ann Arbor soon.

UMgradMSUdad

October 10th, 2022 at 10:50 AM ^

One of my daughters  has seizure disorder.  There are plenty of aspects of human anatomy we still have a lot to learn about, including the brain. My daughter seems to have outgrown her disorder,  but they were never able to pinpoint a trigger for her and just used medication to reduce the likelihood of seizures.