Herm Edwards might have been fired on the field immediately after losing to EMU
Well this would be a first...
Herm Edwards was met by the ASU President and AD on the way off the field last night.
— Jon Tweets Sports (@jontweetssports) September 19, 2022
I’ve heard of getting tarmac’d but I think Herm is the first coach I’ve seen to get end zone’d… pic.twitter.com/GLQXU5XC9F
September 21st, 2022 at 10:43 PM ^
That didn't have a "you're fired" feel to it. Maybe a hey we gotta talk.
September 21st, 2022 at 10:56 PM ^
He should've just kept walking. They can't fire him if they can't catch him, right?
September 22nd, 2022 at 1:13 AM ^
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- Frank Abagnale Jr.
September 21st, 2022 at 11:05 PM ^
Maybe it was just... "Hey, I'm going out to get drunk but you be sure to stop by my office in the morning."
September 21st, 2022 at 11:18 PM ^
If true there is no reason to humiliate an employee like that. It can't wait until they can meet somewhere private?
September 21st, 2022 at 11:28 PM ^
I've seen loads of comments like this regarding the video, which I find funny given that we have absolutely zero clue what was said there. It seems far more likely to have been a "come see me in my office after you get postgame stuff taken care of" than a literal firing. But the amount of people automatically jumping to the conclusion that they actually fired him on the sideline because the tweet implies it with no evidence is kinda absurd.
September 21st, 2022 at 11:51 PM ^
Reading lips a bit it looks like Herm says something about "Ok, tomorrow" or something like that after listening. Setting up a meeting in the morning.
Which Herm clearly understands the meaning of. Handles it classily.
I like Herm, it's a pity it didn't work, but it was bizarre from the outset and this was inevitable.
September 22nd, 2022 at 1:13 PM ^
Agree, but it's still embarrassing him on the field. Everyone knows it's either "you're fired" or "meet us tomorrow so we can fire you." Use your damn phone and set up the meeting. Any Prez or AD that pulls that deserves to be fired in public when it's their turn.
September 22nd, 2022 at 12:24 AM ^
From the body language and facial expressions, it does seem like the conversation has a "I think you know what this means" tenor about it.
I suspect that Herm's departure has been in the works for weeks and that the EMU loss probably had the effect of forcing an immediate decision by the AD to stop prolonging the inevitable, which was subtly communicated to Herm in that conversation.
September 22nd, 2022 at 11:04 AM ^
And our eagerness to glory in someone's humiliation. . . little messy, and I say that as a person who finds Edwards pretty messy himself.
My wife often looks over my shoulder when I'm reading and comments that men are bigger gossips than women. This kind of thing--pretty far down the scale of the mean and trivial--tends to suggest we can't be much different, anyway. I mean, when dim bulbs like Edwards are making such absurd sums, I get that they are fair game, but he just looks vulnerable and a little lost here. And I agree with those who see this as pretty inconclusive.
September 21st, 2022 at 11:41 PM ^
Word out of ASU is that his staff was leaking information both to the media and opponents in order to undermine him.
September 22nd, 2022 at 12:00 AM ^
Now, that’s a spicy rumor…
September 22nd, 2022 at 12:36 AM ^
That rumor —- it may be true but I really hope it isn’t.
Any assistant coach who did that should be black-balled from the industry forever. It’s simply reprehensible behavior. Fine, you don’t like your boss. But you’d be undermining your players at the same time.
September 22nd, 2022 at 7:18 AM ^
Uh, he threw his entire former staff under the bus and managed to keep his job. You really think anyone there still trusted Herm to ever have their backs?
Good riddance, stunt hire.
Go Devils!
September 22nd, 2022 at 7:48 AM ^
"Any assistant coach who did that should be black-balled from the industry forever."
Forever? That seems a little black 'n white.
From a great distance Herm seems like a good guy and I wouldn't be surprised if he had the support of his players.
Imagine, though, a case where the coach was putting players in harmful positions and blaming them and the assistants for everything. You could see where the assistants might be acting in the interest of the players by undermining the coach. Shady, but the situation could be complicated.
September 22nd, 2022 at 10:23 AM ^
Forever. If they had a license to coach, it should be revoked. Find a different career.
September 22nd, 2022 at 12:04 PM ^
But the thing to do in a case like that would be to go to the AD or university president. These guys were apparently leaking gameplans and such to opposing teams.
If this was just one coach, I hope for the sake of the others that he'd be outed. Otherwise they're all going to be under a cloud of suspicion.
September 22nd, 2022 at 2:38 AM ^
The whole downfall of ASU/Herm Edwards is one of the juiciest stories on sports right now. You knew it was over when Jayden Daniels was recorded as he was leaving and his teammates were calling him out.
September 22nd, 2022 at 12:57 AM ^
I would really just like to know wth went wrong here? Herm was kinda the shining star after his first season and he seems to have had a fairly good rep going in but within a year or two that was obviously not the case. I think there is more to this than meets the eye.
September 22nd, 2022 at 1:15 PM ^
My guess is that once he got a full taste of what being a college HC is like, he said to himself, "I'm too old for this bullshit," and just started quiet quitting.
September 22nd, 2022 at 1:12 AM ^
this came out a few days ago
September 22nd, 2022 at 6:25 AM ^
There is a woman on Twitter who does lip reading, because she is hearing impaired, and she concluded it wasn't a firing. Herm said something about having just given the game ball out and then basically said "ok, will. we will." They probably just told him they needed to talk the next day.
September 22nd, 2022 at 6:31 AM ^
What's really damning here is ASU sabotaging the football team by sending information to opposing teams.
September 22nd, 2022 at 7:21 AM ^
I really hope EMU did not accept this information. It just sounds dirty and unsportsmanlike to do anything other than respectfully decline and alert Herm Edwards to what is going on.
September 22nd, 2022 at 7:26 AM ^
The AD for ASU is Herm's former agent in the pros so my assumption is he'd be a little more respectful in firing Edwards, but who knows.
September 22nd, 2022 at 7:55 AM ^
I think that, if I were Herm Edwards, the sensible solution would have been to walk immediately to probate court and change your name, that way when they fire Herm Edwards the next morning, you can say, "Well, that sucks for Herm, but I am Paul Jennings" (or whatever name was chosen).
September 22nd, 2022 at 8:08 AM ^
....or Ron Mexico!
September 22nd, 2022 at 4:37 PM ^
Or Harris Smith. Worked so well for Plaxico...
September 22nd, 2022 at 8:17 AM ^
He didn’t even get a chance to take off his jewelry like Pacino at the end of Donnie Brasco?
September 22nd, 2022 at 9:03 AM ^
This has been thoroughly debunked. According to ASU fans, the AD and President meet him on the field at the end of every game and lip readers have said the convo is a benign "what happened?" "we got beat, that's what happened" and then "let's talk tomorrow."
September 22nd, 2022 at 9:06 AM ^
I could read the AD's lips perfectly. He was saying, "Hey, don't feel bad. Eastern Michigan is a heck of a good team and a great school. Did you know that George Gervin went there? Also, they have a water tower right next to campus that looks like a huge penis."
So it had nothing to do with Herm getting fired.
September 22nd, 2022 at 9:07 AM ^
I guess his CEO philosophy didn't work out. I always liked Herm, seemed like a good dude on ESPN. May he come back to ESPN and replace Joey Galloway.
September 22nd, 2022 at 9:34 AM ^
Herm handed Staee two big fat Ls so he’s a legend in my book
September 22nd, 2022 at 9:39 AM ^
Herm Edwards was fired on the field after a loss to EMU... Allegedly. This is a good time to remind you that Craig James killed 5 hookers... Allegedly
September 22nd, 2022 at 7:48 PM ^
#Cjk5!
September 22nd, 2022 at 10:27 AM ^
Maybe I'm in the minority here, but I like Herm. Did well for the Jets, was tough enough to handle the NY media.
September 22nd, 2022 at 10:27 AM ^
Maybe I'm in the minority here, but I like Herm. Did well for the Jets, was tough enough to handle the NY media.
September 22nd, 2022 at 10:27 AM ^
Maybe I'm in the minority here, but I like Herm. Did well for the Jets, was tough enough to handle the NY media.
September 22nd, 2022 at 10:51 AM ^
Nah, seems like at least a couple other guys agree with you.
September 22nd, 2022 at 11:47 AM ^
Nicely done MOBA!
September 22nd, 2022 at 12:42 PM ^
I know for a fact that he was not terminated on the field. He was called into the office to have a private
meeting with Crow and Ray Anderson the following morning where he was let go. The 3 of them typically met on the field after the game.
Chris Karpman, an ASU insider, did a podcast on this.
Nothing to see here!
September 22nd, 2022 at 2:25 PM ^
This just in LSU gets 1 year probation for visiting with a recruit during virus dead period. ASU hosted like 10 recruits on campus during this period. That should be like 4 years probation if you base punishment it gave out to LSU for an asst. Coach doing that. They also fired coach for that cause and still got 1 year probation.