Ed Warinner now also Run Game Coordinator
Saw that Warinner had added RGC to his bio on twitter. I’m assuming this means Run Game Coordinator so effectively Gattis and Warinner would be sharing OC duties and Harbaugh is going back to his old coaching philosophy from 2015 of having separate pass and run game coordinators.
January 21st, 2021 at 12:53 AM ^
Who is the PGC?
January 21st, 2021 at 1:00 AM ^
Either I'm setting you up for a joke, or I'm bad at assumptions. Wouldn't it be Gattis?
January 21st, 2021 at 1:08 AM ^
No, I guess I am the one bad at assumptions. You are probably right.
January 21st, 2021 at 8:53 AM ^
If the offense takes off, we won't need a Punting Game Coordinator.
January 21st, 2021 at 12:53 AM ^
Sounds about right to me. So glad he is still on staff. Great coach
January 22nd, 2021 at 3:27 AM ^
I'm all in on warinner, but how do we feel going into this year with our line? Last year, i feel like they regressed significantly, but question why so significantly? The guys in there were multiple years deep into his coaching and schemes. Was it the play calling then?
January 21st, 2021 at 1:01 AM ^
Interesting.
January 21st, 2021 at 1:03 AM ^
At minimum seems like a way to hopefully bump his salary and makes sure Warinner sticks around. Really wish we had gotten Moorhead to tie everything together into a coherent vision for the offense.
January 21st, 2021 at 9:09 AM ^
I wouldn’t want Moorhead at the expense of Warinner. The thing I hated about separate passing and running game coordinators with Jimmy adjudicating play calling in real time was how long it took to get plays in.
January 21st, 2021 at 3:20 PM ^
There aren't many things I wouldn't sacrifice for more head
January 21st, 2021 at 9:53 AM ^
Other than internet crazed fan generated wishful thinking, was there any reliable report that Moorehead was leaving Oregon to come to Michigan? Or anywhere? I'm not aware of any.
January 21st, 2021 at 1:04 PM ^
Sam said it never got to the point of being a serious possibility.
January 21st, 2021 at 1:12 AM ^
Pay this man
January 21st, 2021 at 1:16 AM ^
I was a fan of our running scheme in 2018, which basically started when Warinner showed up. It also showed up again halfway through 2019 after we farted around with inside zone for a while. If we can blend that style of power running with a functional and modern spread passing offense that doesn't move a glacial pace, that's an offense I'd want to watch.
January 21st, 2021 at 1:18 AM ^
I'll be sure to let the coaches know that if they do this, you'll watch.
January 21st, 2021 at 6:35 AM ^
I'm sure you'll let the coaches know... the next time you talk to them that is.
January 21st, 2021 at 1:54 AM ^
Good observation Chunkums, I certainly hope it's a good combination as well.
I just wonder how this affects Mike Hart and his actual duties?
January 21st, 2021 at 3:57 AM ^
Recruit recruit recruit
January 21st, 2021 at 4:55 AM ^
His duties are to coach RB's, recruit like a mother, and hopefully provide an emotionally lift to a flat squad.
January 21st, 2021 at 9:09 AM ^
I'm hoping it's somewhat collaborative, where Ed is receptive to suggestions Mike has to the point of trying things in practice, rather than simply "I design the runs and make sure the holes are there, you just make sure your guys can see them and hit them, oh and Josh probably wants your guys to block some, too" (although now that I've typed it, at least that would be a massive improvement)
January 21st, 2021 at 8:11 AM ^
I agree with your sentimanet about tempo but adding another person (just reading the tea leaves) all but guarantees we will never see tempo under the current people in charge. I don't really know how you use tempo when three people can have a say in what play is call and frankly that sounds like a cluster. Sadly, it sounds like another of year of not huddling but still running the play clock down to 12-10 in the name of 'limiting snaps'.
January 21st, 2021 at 8:33 AM ^
Just because he's RGC doesn't mean he'll have input on calling plays. He might just help out from a play design and overall playbook strategy perspective.
Knowing Harbaugh your assumption is probably correct, but it might not be.
January 21st, 2021 at 2:12 PM ^
This would be my hope too. Warriner designs a coherent run game package for each game in conjunction with the other offensive coaches, but the play calling is in the hands of one person (presumably Gattis) at tempo.
January 21st, 2021 at 9:40 AM ^
I am 99.99% sure that Warinner's duties will remain the same as they have been.
First of all, running game and passing game coordinators are titles used to retain assistants. More teams have them than don't. Now teams are adding similar titles for defensive assistants for the same reason. They don't call the plays. They are not somehow co-OC with an equal role to the OC. They help design the offense. That's a role that Warinner certainly had already. Mike Hart will have it too, but Warinner gets the title due to his importance on the staff.
January 21st, 2021 at 10:30 AM ^
I hope you’re right because from all accounts he was a terrible play caller at osu.
January 22nd, 2021 at 9:24 PM ^
Hopefully he has learned - but yes, he has always been a great oline coach but not a coordinator.
January 21st, 2021 at 10:44 AM ^
Exactly Mr Miggle. I would get so upset when a good OSU coach would get an offer from another school and Urban would throw the Assistant Head Coach title at them to get them to stay.
January 21st, 2021 at 1:26 AM ^
Hopefully his first act as RGC was to burn the wildcat pages of the playbook.
January 21st, 2021 at 8:17 AM ^
Why? You don't think that telegraphing the play to the defense, the viewing audience, and all the ships at sea was a good idea?
January 21st, 2021 at 10:44 AM ^
Hey, I'm still waiting for that really cool backyard play. You know, the one where they player who hasn't thrown a pass since HS fakes a run, and throws a sweet spiral to a wide open receiver for a TD. They've been setting up that play for the last 6 seasons. One day it is going to pay off; they will probably use it the next time they are already winning by 28 points against CMU.
January 21st, 2021 at 1:58 PM ^
I'm sure it will be left for OSU when Michigan is amazingly within 18 points in the third quarter. Harbaugh will probably use a 4th string TE to run the action and he will be so nervous his chance has finally arrived in the big game he will turn the ball over. OSU up 25 and Harbaugh keeps mumbling "now that was coaching like you aren't going to be....awwwww shiiiiiitttt."
January 21st, 2021 at 1:29 AM ^
Did you know the 4.6 ypc UofM's offence had this year was more than 2 out of the 3 Rich Rod years.
January 21st, 2021 at 3:49 AM ^
Did you know that even in Rich Rod's worst year (2008), we had more ypc that we averaged throughout Lloyd Carr's entire tenure at Michigan?
January 21st, 2021 at 5:04 AM ^
Which is why I always get a bit amazed with the sometimes myopic view of stats.
Lloyd's offenses were by many measures worse than Rich Rods. However, Lloyd was excellent at the gw (Games Won) stat, much better than RR....
January 21st, 2021 at 12:38 PM ^
Because Rich Rod's plan on defense was to out score the other guy and hope for the best.
January 21st, 2021 at 7:12 AM ^
Yeah, because we couldn't pass the ball
January 21st, 2021 at 8:58 AM ^
Carr team averages might have been dragged down by all those Rose Bowl opponents. While Rich Rods got to play a lot of 4th quarters against 2nd and third string defenders.
January 21st, 2021 at 1:51 AM ^
So who gets paid for RPOs? Or are those eliminated now?
January 21st, 2021 at 1:56 AM ^
I believe Shoop is the Run/Pass Option Coordinator, effective immediately.
January 21st, 2021 at 2:15 AM ^
This is Warinner's year to show what he can do. Staple of running backs, backlog of good line recruiting x 3 years now.
January 21st, 2021 at 4:56 AM ^
Either spell check got you, or what you meant was stable of RB's.
January 21st, 2021 at 9:29 AM ^
Either English class got you, or what you meant was... stable of RBs.
Love when you sticklers lay an egg. Pretty obvious what he meant...
January 21st, 2021 at 2:33 AM ^
So we’ve got an Offensive Coordinator, a Running Game Coordinator, and a RB coach—I’d like to have a functional description/breakdown of who does what on game day.
January 21st, 2021 at 2:52 AM ^
I don't think the RB coach does much of anything on game day other than clap. That seems pretty universal.
January 21st, 2021 at 3:08 AM ^
Harbaugh. That is all you need to know.
if Gattis is getting ready to call in a really good play Harbaugh cuts him off. So says the board, so say we all!
January 21st, 2021 at 5:08 AM ^
LOL. I thought about that watching the NC game. 'Sark runs Harris into a stacked line and stacked box and it works 'Brilliant!'. Gattis runs Haskins into a stacked line and stacked box 'Harbaugh taking over again!'.
Of course, when Sark did it it generally worked because of Harris. I saw him shake off like 4 tackles on one run to get 8 yards. Next play everyone was tucked in even closer to the los and the pass was open even further and OSU was super conflicted as to whether it got pounded by the Najee or ripped by Devonta.
Wildly Optimistic JFW is hoping we can run a simulation of this with Edwards/Worthy.
January 21st, 2021 at 4:58 AM ^
That's what Hart's duties were at Indiana, Mike Hart is in his first season as Indiana’s associate head coach and his fourth as running backs coach. He served as assistant head coach in 2018 and 2019. • A 2018 Broyles Award nominee, Hart was named a Top 25 recruiter for the 2019 signing class by Rivals.com.
January 21st, 2021 at 6:16 AM ^
In most instances, your offensive coordinator calls all the plays on game day and designs the overall game-plan, the RGC will design the running game and collaborate with the OC to implement that into the overall gameplan, and the running backs coach just coaches the running backs.
In more rare instances the RGC will actually call the running plays. But that is typically when he’s also a Co-OC so I don’t think that’s in the cards in this situation.
January 21st, 2021 at 7:52 AM ^
The problem I see with this, at least how it seemed it the past under Harbaugh, is that it felt like the running game coordinator and passing game coordinator didn’t work together. The offense didn’t have a flow to it where they were calling running plays to help set up the pass and vice versa. It just seemed really chaotic and to not make sense. Hopefully this time it’s different.
January 21st, 2021 at 11:08 AM ^
Certain years under Harbaugh we had multiple people calling plays, including Harbaugh himself. Drevno and Fisch both called plays at various times (giving us the “good shit Jedd” gif) through the same season.
Now, we have no way of knowing for sure, but with Gattis having the keys to the offense it could simply be getting an experienced guy to help design the running game instead of going back to having multiple play callers like we had some previous years.
Ultimately it’s all speculation at this point. All we can do is look at how it’s typically done and acknowledge that Harbaugh isn’t always the most “typical” guy.