RUMOR: True freshman NJ WR no longer on team

Submitted by Bambi on

Knowing this board this may get negged and attacked for being too premature, but the info seems relevant and has some legs so I'm going to post it. Obviously, that being said, it is still a rumor, so grain of salt and all that.

A rumor was started on Rivals, and subseqently reinforced by Scout, that a true freshman at Michigan is in trouble with Harbaugh and on his way off the team. Allegedly this is a true FR WR from NJ and he is in some "Brian Cole"-like trouble.

Since this can apply to two people, I didn't want to name anyone in the title, but the name being thrown out there is Brad Hawkins. Mainly because his twitter profile (link) no longer has any Michigan references whatsoever while Ahmir Mitchell's twitter is still decked in Michigan stuff.

So yes, this is a post about an unsubstantiated rumor with even more inferring don from 18 year olds twitter profiles. Neg away.

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Wolfman

June 18th, 2016 at 4:57 AM ^

Again, just imo, but nicotine test? WTF? I may be missing the obvious, but other than an employer paid life insurance policy, I fail to see the logic. I saw nothing, during my work days, that would offer proof that smokers are more prone to illness. I did become aware that lazy fucks and alchoholics had a tendency to miss more work than those with a strong work ethic and those minus a jug sucking problem. 

In the case of the life insurance,(and long term illness as a result of smoking) if, indeed, these are the reasons behind the pre-hire test, I would think a waiver of same would be sufficient. If I am missing the obvious I would not be offended at all if someone would bring it to my attention. 

I mean recently we've had a run on some questionable POTUSes. We had one that appeared to pillow every chick he met and even went so far as to pull out the blue veiner, possibly diamond cutter - depends on blood flow ,right in the casa blanca and even went Havannah on her ass, or another part of the anatomy situated closely thereto. His pre-hire resume indicated this had been an ongoing problem. Now in the boner vs. the stoner debate, I, and so have you, witnessed a jealous spouse go flat out Buckeye based on nothing more than what the other perceived as a flirtatious smile. All of us who are, or who have ever been married, realize it's impossible to concentrate fully ton the task at hand due to nothing more than having a jealous spouse and the issues that arise as a result. You don't need to be the one in this type of marriage. You have a friend that faces it so you know it's true.  Not certain but guessing, by the job title, being clear minded, completely focused would be of greater importance in that position than to what many consider a "lesser" position. 

My point is, if they try hard enough, I imagine they could pre-test the entire work force into the unemployment line. Having a very difficult time grasping both the reasoning and the fairness in penalizing someone for engaging in a completely legal act unless this act, in some fashion, creates an unacceptable work place incident. 

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teldar

June 17th, 2016 at 3:19 PM ^

Testing for nicotine has started, maybe not for continued employment, but for hires, i believe. I think Ohio Health does this. They make every employee go for health screening as well to make sure people are not starting smoking or gaining weight or whatever to continue to pay lower premiums for their insurance.

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bluesalt

June 17th, 2016 at 12:49 PM ^

Just understand there may be consequences. There's no law that says a kid has to show up at classes, but he'll probably fail out and lose his scholarship (if he goes to most schools). I'm not sure what the issue is, or even if there is an issue at all, but marijuana could be legal and it would still be Harbaugh's prerogative to ban it (although maybe that would have a different impact on his scholarship I guess.). I'm in favor of legalization myself, even tho I never have nor never will use the stuff, but my or anyone else's opinions on the stuff are moot. It's a pretty clear rule, just as showing up to practice on time is a pretty clear rule. If you can't follow them, well...

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Blue in Yarmouth

June 17th, 2016 at 3:09 PM ^

You smoke weed....you're cool and stick it to the man and all that. rules are rule, like it or fu*king lump it, it's up to you but deal with the consequences when they come. Go smoke a blunt and stop arguing this point. We all know you want pot legal.

For me, i couldn't care less. I have many friends who smoke it and can see arguments for and against but until it is legalized it is perfectly acceptable for people to be punished for violation of those laws/rules. Hell, I bet even if it does become legal most NCAA teams will have rules against the use of it and then you'll really blow your fu*king top.

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Reader71

June 17th, 2016 at 1:17 PM ^

They might be able to get you on Possession if you fail a drug test, like the get students with MIPs if they are drunk. The body being a container of sorts. I don't know why they would, and I don't know if there's any like precedent with weed. Other than that crazy theory, though, you're right on.

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Von Burgenstein

June 17th, 2016 at 12:46 PM ^

While he didn't break any laws in Colorado, having the THC in his body upon entering Michigan, he technically would break the law (albeit he'd never be tested for it, other than as a student athlete).  Eventually it'd exit his system and he'd be clear.

Obviously this is all hypothetical, given Carlo Kemp has done no such thing.

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The Mad Hatter

June 17th, 2016 at 12:50 PM ^

me too paranoid, indica especially.  I will have some sativa on the weekends before I do yard work or anything else that would be boring and/or require physical exertion.

I mean, I did pay for the MM card, so I have to use it sometimes or that would just be wasteful.

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cbuswolverine

June 17th, 2016 at 12:45 PM ^

Yes. It's a stupid fucking law. Look at the bigger picture here before denigrating Harbaugh for simply doing his fucking job, though. He doesn't get to pick and choose which laws and NCAA rules he will ask his players to obey. You tell players to follow the rules and when they don't, you punish them, period. Imagine the ramifications of saying, "Fuck it, guys. This law sucks. Smoke up. Just don't let the NCAA catch you!" How fucking dumb.

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Quailman

June 17th, 2016 at 1:16 PM ^

You can think it stupid, and feel no obligation to obey it, but you also are most likely not going to be tested for it by the NCAA or by your university.

If doing it, or just "fighting the power" is more important, than so be it, but it seems like a small price to pay in the end for what you could get out of your opportunity. 

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SalvatoreQuattro

June 17th, 2016 at 2:15 PM ^

That's a great attitude to take. What could result from such an attitude if everyone thought like that? Somalia. Saying you won't obey the law because you think it is stupid is not a valid argument nor a particularly wise approach. If everyone followed your path then there would be anarchy. At some point we all must sacrifice a little freedom in order for society to function properly. The answer here is not to ignores the law, but to fight to overturn it.



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Oscar

June 17th, 2016 at 7:55 PM ^

Well I guess it depends on how he would be ripping the guys nuts off. If it is by bare hands, that could take a while, which could be enough time for the police to stop him.

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drjaws

June 17th, 2016 at 12:51 PM ^

I hate that expression "it's the law."  You know else is is the law?

A woman isn’t allowed to cut her own hair without her husband’s permission in Michigan.

In Detroit, willfully destroying your old radio is prohibited.

In Kalamazoo, It is against the law to serenade your girlfriend.

In the USA, it is a federal crime to harass a golfer in any national park in Washington, DC.

In the USA, it is a federal crime to let your pet make a noise that scares the wildlife in a national park.

In the USA, it is a a federal crime to advertise wine in a manner that suggests it has intoxicating qualities.

In the USA, it is a federal crime to attempt to change the weather without telling the Secretary of Commerce.

In the USA, it is a federal crime to sell onion rings resembling normal onion rings, but made from diced onion, without saying so.

 

These are a few small examples.  The point being, dumass laws are dumass laws and many are not enforced by police.  The "it's a law so live by it" is idiotic because everyone who has ever said that has broken multiple laws.  In fact, most people break numerous laws every day just driving to work or walking to go get lunch.

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cbuswolverine

June 17th, 2016 at 12:54 PM ^

STFU with your tripe. Go ahead and break the law, then. Just be prepared to be a martyr/live with the consequences if you get caught. These kids are part of a football program. They are part of a team. They are on scholarship and represent the University of Michigan. If any of our players want to speak out in favor of legalization, I'm all for that. And while I'm sympathetic to their position and wish they had the right to do as they choose, I still see smoking while a member of this football team as a somewhat immature and selfish act.

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drjaws

June 17th, 2016 at 1:15 PM ^

breaks laws all the time.  Even you.  That was part of my point.  The other part was the holier than thou attitude, just like the one you typed, is hypocritical at best.

Literally everyone is the USA breaks the laws and must "be prepared to be a martyr/live with the consequences if you get caught." 

Never sped while driving?  Never crossed the road accept at a cross walk?

 

PS.  As far as pot goes, the only thing anyone in Michigan needs to be concerned about is the MMJ card.  If you have it, cops don't care.  There is ZERO chance you'll get in trouble with a federal officer unless you're doing something stupid to get on their radar (more plants than you're supposed to, selling to people etc.).

 

Also, I get this is about a kid breaking UM rule, and he should be punished for not following the rules, even if there was nothing illegal about it (i.e. 9 pm curfew).  My argument isn't about that, it was in response to the tangent of "pot is legal or illegal" and whether laws are stupid or not.

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Quailman

June 17th, 2016 at 1:21 PM ^

I dont think he said anywhere in there that he never broke a law.

You're right, im sure we've all sped or jay-walked. I have. And if I got pulled over for speeding, I'd accept that I'm going to get a ticket, bc I broke a rule. 

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Reader71

June 17th, 2016 at 1:25 PM ^

I speed all the time, because I do a cost/benefit analysis and the price of getting caught is outweighsed by the benefit of getting places faster, especially factoring in the risk of actually being seen by a cop. But smoking weed as a ball player has a much higher cost. You don't get to play anymore, and you could lose your scholarship. And the chances of being caught are also pretty high. The team tests 2-3 times a year and the NCAA tests 1-2 more. To outweigh that, there has to be a pretty big benefit, and some of us don't think getting high is it. That's the tangent though. I think we agree that the team rules should be followed, regardless of what we think about the law itself.

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