OT – What is your greatest musical hot take?
It’s a Friday deep in the heart of OT season so I thought I’d ask, what is your greatest musical hot take? Someone must believe that “Major Tom” is better than “Space Oddity” or that Chris Gaines is superior to Garth Brooks
For me it is that George Harrison was the greatest Beatle. He wrote the single greatest Beatles song “While my guitar gently weeps” and had the best solo career. I will go to my grave believing that “My Sweet Lord” Is infinitely better than “Imagine”. There can also be no argument that The Travelling Wilburys were better than Wings (it’s not a fair comparison, I know).
BRING ON THE NEGBANG!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruno_Mars
Stats? Stats (keep in mind Bruno is only 31):
"Mars has landed seven number-one singles on the Billboard Hot 100 since his career launched in 2010, attaining his first five faster than any male artist since Elvis Presley."
He has 5 grammys and is only 31.
I can only name one Prince song...
Dude, you need to get out of the house more often. Little Red Corvette and When Doves Cry yadda yadda yadda, Babe Ruth and Lou Gehrig.
Purple Rain, Let's Go Crazy and 1999 are all well-known Prince songs.
http://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/chart-beat/483652/princes-40-…
What the fuck is wrong with your brain?
I don't 100% disagree with you. Kanye's personal antics obviously make him an asshole, but he legit cares about what he puts out and isn't scared to incorporate different styles into his music.
I prefer his earlier stuff, but that's okay.
My hot rap take: Lupe Fiasco is one of the most underrated rap artists ever.
Aquemini, Stankonia and Speakerboxx\the love below also in with a shout
My hot take. Kendrick Lamar is overrated.
My fairly hot take is that Kendrick is merely an above average rapper, but is surrounded by such extreme mediocrity that he seems like an all-great. Sort of like Lloyd Carr's last game. It was a wonderful moment, but the bigger piture shows that it was surrounded by suffering.
I like your take. I really like Kendrick but I don't know much about rap and your theory could definitely explain how it looks from where I sit.
I prefer The College Dropout-Late Registration-Graduation. I cherished Kanye's early work.
I would argue Run The Jewels 1-3 is the best rap trilogy, full stop.
Foo Fighters are wildly overrated.
Yeah. I'm a big fan of Dave Grohl as a person. He just seems like a genuinely good dude but I haven't been able to get into anything Foo Fighters in a long time. I don't fault anybody for liking the them, but I just can't get excited about it.
Jimi Hendrix was only a decent guitar player.
He was innovator, well ahead of his time who's song writing and style influenced music for decades after his death. He was an amazing performer and showman, legendary in that regard. He played with soul, heart, and grit that put other guitarists to shame, which combined with the other points absolutely makes him one of the greatest of all time.
BUT, as far as being a pure guitar payer from a technical standpoint, he was not one of those.
Agree. There are many, many guitarists today that have better technical skills than he did. But as you mention, he was the guy to take the guitar and put it out there and become the showy, lead axe man we are familar with today.
Is probably the best. I know, not a hot take, but still. He would out face-melt Hendrix any day.
on the bit of Hendrix blasphemy, I'll say this.. Stevie Ray Vaughan could do anything Van Halen could do and do it while composing a cool transition to something less boring.
It's also a matter of styles. Hendrix and SRV were blues-based. Ed learned by playing classical guitar.
If you're a Van Halen fan, I highly recommend the book "Van Halen Rising" as it was a fascinating look at the history of the band. Eddie and Alex literally came off the boat from the Netherlands and one of things they had (as they didn't know English, at first) was their musical abilitly., Eddie was a youth piano prodigy and won all sorts of S CA piano contests before he picked up the electric guitar, in which his playing was obviously influenced by his piano background.
I'll check that out. Thanks. I remember hearing that David Lee Roth was in the band because he owned a bunch of equipment and girls followed him around to the clubs.
Hendrix could play five notes that would make a better lead than any machine-gun shredder could write using 1000 notes.
Playing fast means nothing if your playing has no drama or storytelling in itself. I'm no more impressed by most shredders than I am by people who can type 180-words/minute. Just because you can type fast doesn't mean you can write anything worth reading.
Who said anything about shredders?
Being a good player, and having great technical skills... are almost unrelated.
Yngwie Malmsteen could play circles around Hendrix technically - but Hendrix was a better guitar player by orders of magnitude,
RockinLoud, I recommend you go to YouTube and listen to a couple different stories about Hendrix's musical capabilities. Here are a couple:
- Showed up at a Clapton concert and played a Clapton song so much better than Clapton could do his own song that Clapton couldn't play it that night.
- Had the Jimi Hendirx experience play Sgt. Pepper's Lonley Hearts Club intro in concert two days after the album was released simply from listening to it.
- Bob Dylan "gifting" All Along The Watchtower to Jimi as his song because he simply plays it better than I can.
Yes, Hendrix tried a lot of way out stuff and some of his music can be really hard on the ears. But that man knew his way around a guitar and could do technical things no one else could. He is far more than simply swinging the ax around, lighting it on fire, and playing behind his back.
I'm well aware and versed in his capabilities. I'm simply providing a hawt take as per the thread topic.
1. Pink Floyd is the musical singularity that spawned all music we listen to today. All musicians (whether the know it or not) are influenced by Pink Floyd
2. Ween is probably the most underrated band ever. They have more talent, depth and range than msot bands in the past 30 years.
Pink Floyd is borderline terrible.
Jam bands are an excuse for white people to do drugs.
The Smashing Pumpkins have the best catalog of any 90s rock band by a wide margin.
I object sir. I have never required jam bands to do drugs.
three of the bands (or types of bands) you have listed are an excuse for white people to do drugs.
This would make more sense if it read...
Smashing Pumkins are borderline terrible.
Jam bands are an awesome and unneccessary excuse for white people to do drugs.
Pink Floyd may have one of the best catalogs of rock music by a wide margin.
The Smashing Pumpkins' career would have been much bigger for much longer if "Adore" had been released as a Billy Corgan solo album.
shine on you crazy diamond
Ann Arbor once had the two greatest live performance bands in the entire universe:
The MC5
Iggy and the Stooges
Not a hot take. Just a straight fucking fact.
While Iggy grew up in Ypsi and went to Ann Arbor Pioneer, and the Ashton brothers were also from Ann Arbor...the MC5 are from Downriver (Lincoln Park to be specific).
Then they moved on to Detroit. They played everywhere in the local area, including Ann Arbor, but they are not an Ann Arbor band.
Bob Seger is much more "Ann Arbor" than them (e.g., "Main Street" is about Ann Street).