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11/05/2018 - 8:08am Thank you for the hard work!…

Thank you for the hard work! We all thoroughly appreciate it, even when we are being whiny. 

11/05/2018 - 7:35am I'm not going to lie, when I…

I'm not going to lie, when I refreshed my podcast feed and saw the Supplemental Podcast I was wondering the same thing. I live out of state and am not an alumnus so this podcast is one I'll skip over. Fingers crossed for the regularly schedule cackling about destroying another ranked team. 

05/14/2018 - 9:23am I absolutely agree. Thing

I absolutely agree. Thing that is so impressive is the ball handling and coordination combined with the length and height. There just aren't that many players to use as a comparison with that kind of length, athleticism, skill, and shooting, which is why McDaniels is such an enticing prospect. Maybe another more modest comparison is Wenyen Gabriel at Kentucky. He's another player that is 6'8" with Gumby arms, but a great deal of coordination and skill. He showed in the SEC tournament that he can catch fire from 3 as well. 

05/14/2018 - 8:54am I think Wilson is getting a

I think Wilson is getting a bump because his floor is so high. Frankly though, I think his athleticism is a little underwhelming. I've only watched just this one video of McDaniels, but he looks like a top 10 prospect. I'm not saying that he will be this good, but a lot of his best attributes are Kevin Durant-esque. 

05/13/2018 - 7:38pm Three wings are not a problem.

As Golden State has shown it’s ok to have multiple good players at the same position. Brown and Hayward can both defend and rebound, Tatum will only get better, and most importantly you have the best coach in the league at finding a role for everyone. I think the Celtics keep ascending next year.

03/26/2018 - 6:52pm He was the one that bumped

He was the one that bumped Beilein in the 2014 MSU game. Also seems to really rile up John. He did the B1G tournament Purdue game and seemed okay.

03/09/2018 - 12:06am Butler

I was a freshman at Butler in 09-10. Inches from the greatest underdog story of all time.

02/20/2018 - 8:12am Pattern

I can see your perspective. For me as a Butler fan, it just seems like a familiar pattern. There are also some questions of whether he'll be able to recruit at level higher than the skill level he already has on the team. At Butler, he had some big recruiting wins for Butler's caliber, but those are ones he'll need every single year at OSU. 

I also want to see how he does in both tournaments this year. At Butler he seemed like a totally different coach in the regular season versus the post-season. 

02/19/2018 - 1:50pm Chris Holtmann

I can provide some clarity here as a Butler/Michigan fan. 

Chris Holtmann is a very good coach, but we will have to wait and see how high his ceiling is. His salvage job this year is exactly what made him really good at Butler. He seems to have an uncanny ability to see what his roster is good at and then maximize that. For example here were his three seasons at Butler

14-15- Kenpom: 20 (O 64 D 8). He takes a good shot blocker surrounded by solid defenders to a 5 seed in the tournament

15-16- Kenpom 30 (O 15 D 97) After lossing all the best defensive options he pivots to a wide open offensive approach to salvage an 8 seed with a thin roster.

16-17 Kenpom 25 (O 20 D 49) Holtmann's most complete roster. This team was largely aided by a grad transfer and two traditional transfers in their final season. They swept Nova and Xavier

Now here comes the reassuring part. Looking at the fact that they swept two of the toughest teams in the conference you would think that Butler won the Big East. However, Holtmann seems to have a weird thing where his teams will turtle for five games at a time, and they always have another conference team that is their kryptonite (see PSU this year and Creighton last year. 

Last year Butler, despite being as complete as it has been since Brad Stevens' final four runs, lost @Indiana State, @St Johns, home to Gtown, choked at home to Seton Hall to end the season. This doesn't even include the 20 point comebacks it took to beat Depaul and Georgetown. 

Additionally, he did not win a conference tounament game in three tries, and performed exactly to seed in all three appearances in the NCAA tournament. 


TL:DR Really good coach, but with some weird flaws that have me questioning whether he'll ever be a Final Four caliber coach.

01/21/2018 - 11:59am I’m not sure I follow

I’m not sure I follow

01/21/2018 - 11:45am Jarrod Wilson

Is also on the Jags’ roster

12/19/2017 - 9:17am A little bit of hyperbole,

A little bit of hyperbole, but I see what you’re seeing. He seems to have a real knack for creating space in the air and also getting the ball by any means necessary. It does remind me a bit of Jeremy Gallon actually, even though Bell is probably half a foot taller.

10/23/2017 - 8:53am Winovich also went out at one

Winovich also went out at one point and looked like he was in mild pain. He came back in a few plays after. 

10/20/2017 - 2:30pm I think we can agree that

I think we can agree that appointing the 4th QB (who we’ve heard basically nothing about) the starter of the future is extreme even for this motley crew.

10/20/2017 - 10:13am I see we are resorting to

I see we are resorting to counting things before they are hatched. 

10/20/2017 - 10:10am Thats never really been his

Thats never really been his thing. It's been discussed over and over that he likes to bring in lineman with great frames and feet and then pack the weight on them.

10/17/2017 - 9:55pm As a Butler grad who

As a Butler grad who overlapped with Hayward, I’m devastated. This was set to be the next chapter of his career and it will need to wait at least a year.

It was also the most gruesome basketball injury I’ve ever seen. I saw Paul George’s but not the Kevin Ware one.

10/16/2017 - 7:47pm (No subject)

Oops Double.

10/16/2017 - 7:43pm (No subject)

10/04/2017 - 2:24pm I see what they mean though,

I see what they mean though, I was expecting a guy with a little bit more foot quickness and agility based on the evaluations.

10/04/2017 - 9:07am Glad to know I’m not the only

Glad to know I’m not the only one down here. They also use BBN extensively.

09/24/2017 - 9:31pm Cesar Ruiz

Cesar Ruiz

09/24/2017 - 10:22am From Kylie to (O') Korn-ers

From Kylie to (O') Korn-ers

08/30/2017 - 9:55pm 33-15 Good guys!

33-15 Good guys!

08/25/2017 - 8:30am To be honest, if Speight has

To be honest, if Speight has truly locked down the starting gig, I'll wait until the next QB battle before getting overly concerned about the pecking order. It would have been great if Peters had taken the back up job decisively and would be getting some live reps this year, but in terms of the long term arc this may be motivational, or may be a sophomore slump. It could also be something totally different, but I think it's too early to jump to any conclusions. 

08/15/2017 - 10:28pm Seems like a guy who could

Seems like a guy who could thrive in the Levert/Stauskas role and run the offense through the 2 spot. His shooting stroke is a bit non-traditional, but it goes in.

07/04/2017 - 10:00am Despite my handle,I live in

Despite my handle,I live in Kentucky now, which offers a wide and varied palette of beverages. I have some Against the Grain Citra Ass Down, a bomber of Avery Hog Heaven, some Prairie Flare, some New Holland Mad Hatter, Avery Raja and Gose. Oh and there's Bourbon to get into later. Most notably Elijah Craig small batch and Weller Special Reserve.

07/02/2017 - 5:05pm Kam Chatman

Kam Chatman

06/30/2017 - 12:28pm Scholarship

His spot was kind of a zero sum with the 2018 class anyways. Wagner was the only member of the 2015 class and as a result the only open spot for 2019. Even with him leaving early if you use that spot for '18 then there isn't a spot in '19. The only thing this eliminates is the possibility of a one year grad transfer to go along with a 4 person class in 2018. This would at least provide a little longer to provide clarity if there is any attrition.

06/13/2017 - 11:12am I don't have any inside info,

I don't have any inside info, but judging by the last two coaches, LaVall will probably start somewhere around $1 million/ year. If he performs to the level that would get UM interested he will surely get a few renegotiated contracts. 

The other thing to keep in mind is James Danko's (coincidentally a Michigan MBA grad, and former employee) plan for the university. He is midway through a capital development and enrollment growth plan. The plan involves growing Butler's endowment and increasing the student population from around 4500 to around 10000. Butler just acquired a sizeable chunk of land abutting campus, and this is the first step to getting up to the new numbers. This is all to say that in five years Butler's salary offering might not be THAT much lower than Michigan's. There is no question that Michigan could out bid Butler, but they may not want to do that.

06/13/2017 - 9:45am LaVall has a lot of history

LaVall has a lot of history at Butler, where he as a player and started his coaching career. Butler, my alma mater by the way, is now in the Big East and has been upping it's cash reserves over the past years. It may not be a stepping stone for him. 

06/13/2017 - 8:36am Step One

Gathering the team is actually going to be a big job for LaVall. Three of the five signed recruits have re-upped their commitments, but Christian David and Kyle Young haven't yet. Those guys were two of Butler's biggest recruiting wins ever, and it would be a huge statement to get both to stay. Kyle Young would be particularly heartbreaking to lose, because 1) beating out several big time programs for him was a milestone , 2) they really don't have anyone else who fits well at the PF spot, and 3) he has such a high upside for what they have been doing recently. He could easily end up like Alec Peters or Sam Dekker.

06/12/2017 - 9:45am The Butler insider types have

The Butler insider types have all been indicating that it is his job if he wants it. Apparently there was some sort of meeting last night, that might have been contract negotiations. I would bet there is some kind of closure today or tomorrow.

06/12/2017 - 9:38am I absolutely agree, but I

I absolutely agree, but I think the circumstances have changed since moving to the Big East. Also as an aside Holtmann had a short, but successful HC stint at Gardner Webb before taking the assistant job at Butler. He made an extremely savvy move to take a title downgrade to step up to larger opportunities.

06/12/2017 - 8:42am Butler has a "Michigan Man"

Butler has a "Michigan Man" equivalent called "the Butler Way" and while this isn't truly in-house it is "in-family." That's how business has been done at Butler for years and years. They highly considered two of the current assistants, but neither has head coaching experience or the success for track record that Jordan does. 

06/09/2017 - 3:20pm I really hope so too. He's in

I really hope so too. He's in the top 3 of my wish list along with current assistant Mike Schrage, and Boston Celtics AC Micah Shrewsberry. I actually think Billy Donlon would be a great fit too, but Butler has their own version of "Michigan Man" and haven't hired outside the family in over 30 years.

06/09/2017 - 12:29pm I'm not sure that he was

He was initially contacted by them early in the week along with the Millers, Chris Mack, and others. He rebuffed them at that point. Also, he is much less flashy than other candidates, probably won't resonate as well with the fans until five years from now when they are winning. 

06/09/2017 - 12:27pm See my post below. While

See my post below. While Stevens did a ton, they  were actually facing a tone of negative momentum when Holtmann took over.  Stevens was also a good but not great recruiter. I would actually argue that Holtmann has done more for the success of the basketball program going forward than Stevens did. I know that sounds like blasphemy. 

06/09/2017 - 12:25pm I'll provide perspective that may change your opinion

 First thing is the two NC apperances. While Brad Stevens is one of the greatest minds in all of basketball, even someone of that level needs some help to make it to the final Monday twice in a row. For Stevens that was having one of the best four year players in program history, and hitting on two three stars that turned into NBA players (one an all star). And that level of visibility allowed Butler to move to the Big East. However, while the program certainly has a winning culture the end of the Stevens era was much rockier than it may appear.

First, Stevens' last two years were a big step down in talent on the roster. Think of 2014-15 and 2015-16 under Beilein as close comparisons. In the 2011-12 year, Butler was 22-15 and finished fifth in the Horizon. The next year was the sole year in the A-10 and while the roster rebounded and had some big wins during the regular season it was still not to Big East level yet. They were 27-9, but struggled to beat the top flight of the A-10.  Then Stevens left, and Barry Collier the AD bungled the coaching search and hired Brandon Miller instead of Lavall Jordan.

Butler went 14-17 without Stevens and was 4-14 in the Big East. They also lost six players to transfers and replaced them with.... Compounding this was the fact that Brandon Miller was not the fit. He had a "Medical Leave of Absence," which most people seem to believe was some sort of emotional instability combine with going AWOL on benders.  Holtmann took over as interim coach took in a pretty desperate situation. He took a wonky roster that couldn't make the NIT the year before and promptly had a top 25 ish team and made the tournament.

The one critique you could place on Holtmann is he has achieved only what has been expected in the post season. They really should've beaten ND in 2015, as there was some very questionable officiating at the end of the game and OT. Then in both 2016 and 2017 they ran up against quite good one seeds and fought admirably, but couldn't beat them. I understand where that could come off as underwhelming to an outsider, but the fact that he even got them there with the totally disjunct roster is what was impressive to me. All three of those seasons the team was projected in the bottom half of the Big East, and not without reason. He has constantly reloaded in awkward situations. 

06/09/2017 - 12:01pm Oh man you went full

Oh man you went full Hoosiers!

06/09/2017 - 10:05am Honestly, I had been working

Honestly, I had been working on compiling all the info for a bit, and at that point there was no other post. When I went to post I double checked that it wouldn't be redundant, and of course someone else beat me. I felt like I had put in enough time and energy, and provide enough new info that it could be its own topic rather than getting buried by a bunch of posts reacting to the hire itself.

06/02/2017 - 11:57am A more specific take

My fairly hot take is that Kendrick is merely an above average rapper, but is surrounded by such extreme mediocrity that he seems like an all-great. Sort of like Lloyd Carr's last game. It was a wonderful moment, but the bigger piture shows that it was surrounded by suffering. 

06/02/2017 - 11:53am Stevie Wonder  and Ray

Stevie Wonder  and Ray Charles would both have to be in the conversation. Jimi Hendrix too, despite his only average singing voice.

04/25/2017 - 9:46am I'm not sure I understand

I'm not sure I understand this perspective. Brooks is pretty good prospect in his own right. I doubt he's worried about a guy a year behind him. It IS good for him though. He gets to watch a guy who takes pride in being a tradtional PG for a year, and then he'll get his shot to beat out X or whoever else. He'll have essentially a two year headstart on DeJulius, because we all know Beilein's PGs do better when given a year to season, and chances are DeJulius isn't going to waltz in with a strong enough knowledge of the offense from day one. 

03/20/2017 - 7:32am I live in Lexington as well,

I live in Lexington as well, but I've never experienced any animosity from the locals. They hate UofL of course, and also Tennessee oddly. My opinion is there are basically three categories of UK fans. There are the ones who are really knowledgable about basketball, and stay in the know about both their own team and others around the country. Those ones are tolerable. Then there are the casual fans who still find a way to act like they actually know something about basketball. They will froth at the mouth about ever missed shot and generally won't really understand the game. Those ones are the most obnoxious. Lastly, there is what I call the "C-A-T-S! CATS! CATS! CATS! crowd" They don't even watch the games unless they are playing Kansas, Duke, UofL or in a tournament. They are totally oblivious about anything basketball related. They are oddly cute in their blind fandom. 

01/16/2017 - 1:24pm Ask again later

We won't know if he is a realistic option until he schedules/takes an official. If that happens the feedback will tell us whether there is legitimate interest or not.

12/24/2016 - 12:40pm I actually think he was just

I actually think he was just not well blocked on a lot of those. He does a great job of getting into the body of OTs and then just going by them. He gets to the QB so fast that I can see why it might look like he's getting the Taco Charlton/Lawrence Marshall highlight reel plays.

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12/16/2016 - 9:33am I see Brandon Marshall

I see Brandon Marshall (though DPJ is a couple inches shorter).

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12/13/2016 - 11:25am Specifically that he was retaking the ACT this weekend.

Specifically that he was retaking the ACT this weekend.

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12/09/2016 - 1:17pm I remember her getting thrown

I remember her getting thrown out of the game at IU last year. Her commitment to cowbell is strong, but apparently so was IU security's commitment to having her not play cowbell.

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