OT: Notre Dame Recruiting Violations
https://irishsportsdaily.com/s/14092/breaking-notre-dame-acknowledges-recruiting-violations
According to the report, the Irish have accepted the following penalties:
- One year of probation.
- A $5,000 fine.
- A six-month show-cause order for the former assistant football coach, including a one-game suspension at any employing member school.
- Reduced football official visits for the 2020-21 academic year by one.
- Reduced football unofficial visits by 14 days for the 2020-21 academic year.
- A seven-day off-campus recruiting ban for the entire football staff during the 2020-21 academic year.
- The university ended the recruitment of the prospect.
- The university will not recruit any prospects from the high school in Seattle from the 2019-20 through 2021-22 academic years.
January 21st, 2021 at 1:28 PM ^
I hope they at least cheated the system using McDonald's bags.
January 21st, 2021 at 2:22 PM ^
Hey, it's a good time for the great taste of McDonald's Sequenced Bills, available in small or large sizes.
January 21st, 2021 at 2:50 PM ^
How much is in the Kids' Meal???
January 21st, 2021 at 3:06 PM ^
Enough to make it a Happy Meal
January 21st, 2021 at 6:00 PM ^
Close, but at Notre Dame they walk away with McDowell's bags full of cash. Not quite at the McDonalds/Tennessee level yet.
January 21st, 2021 at 8:41 PM ^
They have the Golden Arches. We have the golden arcs.
January 21st, 2021 at 9:01 PM ^
The Big Mic...same as a Big Mac only no sesame seeds on the bun.
January 21st, 2021 at 6:06 PM ^
While yall laughing, I hear that the McDonald's bag will be our turnover trophy next season. Get an int you get the McDonald's bag
January 21st, 2021 at 1:30 PM ^
Man, how are they ever going to recover from that $5,000 dollar fine?
January 21st, 2021 at 1:33 PM ^
And not to recruit one high school for a bit (but can apparently still accept commits from there).
NCAA is as toothless as my pappaw
January 21st, 2021 at 1:41 PM ^
Oh, because Notre Dame is a ca$h cow for the NCAA.
Meanwhile, Middle Indiana State School For The Mildly Inconvenienced will get the death penalty.
January 21st, 2021 at 2:17 PM ^
I heard the University of Niles (sw mich campus ) has agreed to pay the fine...
January 21st, 2021 at 2:02 PM ^
i'm certainly no apologist for ND or the ncaa, but per the article
"The violations stem from impermissible in-person contact with a recruit, impermissible text messages with a recruit and Irish head coach Brian Kelly posing for a photo with a recruit at his high school."
what should the penalties be for that? doesn't seem much worse than all of the self-reporting that osu does every year.
January 21st, 2021 at 2:10 PM ^
Yeah, it's a big nothing burger IMHO. Just thought it was interesting because to hell with Notre Dame.
January 21st, 2021 at 3:44 PM ^
I'm not going to downvote, but how has "nothing burger" not died the abrupt, forgetful death it deserves?
January 21st, 2021 at 2:52 PM ^
Yeah, that's a STRETCH!
January 21st, 2021 at 4:20 PM ^
The issue is that everyone knows this isn't an isolated incident.
January 21st, 2021 at 4:38 PM ^
Yes, but the text message read, "So have you ever been in a Turkish prison?"
January 21st, 2021 at 2:17 PM ^
Or ever recover from that 7 day off campus recruiting ban during a year in which you know, no one is allowed to travel anyways.
January 21st, 2021 at 4:19 PM ^
well, the collection plate at the Basilica is a little light because of the pandemic. . .
January 21st, 2021 at 1:31 PM ^
$5000? They would've been better off getting the death penalty.
January 21st, 2021 at 1:32 PM ^
Brian Kelly has survived a 4-8 season, major NCAA violations that resulted in vacated seasons, academic fraud, the death of a student assistant due to negligence, and a rape scandal that resulted in the alleged victim committing suicide. This one is small potatoes. He'll get a raise.
January 21st, 2021 at 2:04 PM ^
...and he has overcome them, getting his team to the CFP twice...
January 21st, 2021 at 2:08 PM ^
I don't really think of causing people to die and cheating as "adversity" that you've got to overcome. More like, they are reasons for you to not have your job anymore.
January 21st, 2021 at 3:24 PM ^
Just as long as he gets to the CFP. The rest will never matter.
January 21st, 2021 at 2:04 PM ^
And.....every take on here, the last few months, was how great of a coach Kelly was. ?
Nobody wanted to hear that Notre Dame had to vacate their most successful season, because of cheating. They just said..."see, Kelly can do it, at Notre Dame, so Michigan has no excuse".
They have no where near the scheduling obstacles as Michigan does. They have no where near (current) "rival" success to overcome.
Yet, they STILL have to cheat, even more than the academic cheating they were already caught doing, to get to the level they are, now.
As some people said.....be careful what you wish for. ?♂️
January 21st, 2021 at 2:12 PM ^
Hey, to hell with Notre Dame. But these violations were small potatoes.
January 21st, 2021 at 3:08 PM ^
At ND they're not small potatoes, they're called Mcvalue fries.
January 21st, 2021 at 5:18 PM ^
...in a cash-lined McXtra- sized bag.
January 21st, 2021 at 2:46 PM ^
LOL that ND was caught cheating on academics. They had a player caught cheating, like Michigan did. And not just any player, their starting QB. Like Michigan, they forced their player to sit out for a whole year.
I suppose Bama, Clemson, OSU and others would have done the same thing, but their players have never cheated so we'll never know.
By the way, Notre Dame is a team I never root for. About the only thing I like about them is their respect for academics.
January 21st, 2021 at 4:12 PM ^
Incorrectamundo. It was a trainer completing significant course work for two players and impermissibly helping six others.
I do believe that our player’s academic issue was isolated to his own actions from all accounts.
January 21st, 2021 at 5:19 PM ^
Thanks for the correction.
January 21st, 2021 at 2:09 PM ^
Damn, when you put it all out there like that, just damn
January 21st, 2021 at 2:58 PM ^
And not ONE, ND fan on any blog will call for his job or accuse him of not being in control of his players or staff.
January 21st, 2021 at 1:34 PM ^
Brian Kelly wears visors that are worth $5,000 dollars
January 21st, 2021 at 4:39 PM ^
His purple makeup costs $6,000 a year.
January 21st, 2021 at 1:36 PM ^
Really laying down the hammer there, huh, NCAA?
While you're at it why don't you comb their ass hair for them too?
January 21st, 2021 at 4:36 PM ^
The NCAA has a name for this penalty: The Gene Smith!
January 21st, 2021 at 1:37 PM ^
But they don't recruit in the top five every year. Are you telling me there is some other way to evaluate these things?
January 21st, 2021 at 1:38 PM ^
All of these illegal recruiting penalties include a list of things like:
- can't recruit off campus for 7 days during X school year
- can't make phone calls for 3 days during X year
- can't recruit that guy who already signed with another school
- on-campus recruiting days reduced by 5 days during X year
This is all petty stuff that doesn't actually impact recruiting at all. Out of 270 days you can't recruit for 7 of them? Who cares? Most coaches probably appreciate the break from having to text and call everyone for a week and I can't imagine a recruit is going to take not being called for a week seriously.
Like everything else associated with the NCAA this all seems so dumb.
If teams cheat, do something which actually impacts their ability to compete for at least one recruiting cycle.
Michigan fans certainly understand the impact one bad class can have. Maybe Michigan should take a retroactive penalty for the 2018 recruiting class and cheat their asses off to sign this next class. They could even include a bowl ban for the 2020 season to really prove how contrite they are.
January 21st, 2021 at 1:41 PM ^
this is a joke. the ncaa is a joke. they should have never been punished for such stupid stuff.
do something about the real cheaters.
January 21st, 2021 at 1:46 PM ^
Hope somebody at least gets a good spanking!
(potentially leading to more violations)
January 21st, 2021 at 1:48 PM ^
Brian Kelly is probably the most corrupt coach in the NCAA, and nobody ever talks about it. Bizarre.
January 21st, 2021 at 2:34 PM ^
What makes you say this? There is a lot of competition out there for title of “most corrupt”. Some specifics please.
January 21st, 2021 at 2:51 PM ^
He cheated his balls off even at gvsu.. I knew several friends that played for him. Even the whole stretching time that got rich rod crucified, Kelly did that every year as long as he wanted.
January 21st, 2021 at 1:50 PM ^
To me, the penalty actually seems reasonable. The violations seem ticky-tacky if you read the article. This sounds like stuff that most likely were self reported which would not happen at most schools. I can't imagine the NCAA found out about this and brought it to NDs attention.
January 21st, 2021 at 1:52 PM ^
This is all so stupid.
January 21st, 2021 at 1:55 PM ^
No wonder they took rocko from us!!! Grrrrrrr
January 21st, 2021 at 1:59 PM ^
It's a ND site, so we can take this with a grain of salt, but the "violations" were
impermissible in-person contact with a recruit, impermissible text messages with a recruit and Irish head coach Brian Kelly posing for a photo with a recruit at his high school.
Whoop-dee-frickin'-doo! (Selfies with a coach are now violations? Seriously?!) Why does any of this need to be announced? These are false start on a 4th and 12 level violations.
