Myocarditis?

A few friends and I had pretty good cases back in March and April. All in the 30s. No hospitalization - but all bought pulse oximeters and were pretty low at times / had to do some breathing excercise on bad nights to be able to avoid going in for supplemental oxygen. Now 7-8 months later, we still notice that temperature regulation is pretty wild. That and a super-high jump in heart rate for about 10 minutes after eating a lot — like we pounded some coffee — way more than ever used to normally happen when eating. I can’t speak toward myocarditis because there is no way we would possibly know without tests. 

Myocarditis?!?!?

Covid Haiku time?

Oh Mi Oh My Oh

carditis it is or not

our season is over

This will not end well

Thread Titles?

There have been a variety of anecdotal reporting on this being part of lingering issues stemming fro COVID-19 with athletes this year; I saw this one a bit ago and there are others.  My guess is staffs at major colleges are well aware of it and make a point of monitoring athletes who might have gotten COVID-19, and in the months and years to come I'm sure we'll see deeper analysis.  But sadly it feels like we've gotten a little numb as a society to COVID-19, so my guess is the reporting on it's lingering issues has dissipated a bit.

Concern for myocarditis is and remains a concern.  It might be why the conferences (plural) have a lengthy wait period for COVID positives.  For those wanting to use this as a gaslight for why all of this is fabricated or exaggerated, anytime you cherry pick metrics it ends poorly.  Was carditis a concern? Yes.  Why? Because it is a significant risk to athletes competing and training.  Was that the reason why the season was delayed or shut down? No.  It was due to availability of and money for widespread and regular testing.  Look at smaller conferences without the means to do so.  They boarded up for the year.  The big boys delayed where there was a belief that COVID was real until there was capacity and means to get testing done regularly with prompt results.  I suspect many of you know this but ignore it because it doesn't fit the narrative.  Doesn't make it any less true just like your belief that there is widespread voter fraud won't change who is President-Elect of the United States of America.  

The earlier study (thankfully!) does seem to have overstated the case.  However, at least one NFL player sat out this season with COVID-related myocarditis:
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2020/11/23/bills-tommy-sweeney-ou…

Clemson DE Xavier Thomas is still not all the way back from his bout:
https://www.thestate.com/sports/college/acc/clemson-university/article2…

and at least one 14-year-old(!) was diagnosed with myocarditis despite no known underlying conditions:
https://griceconnect.com/2020/09/covid-19-positive-shs-football-player-…

Individual cases can be misleading, and we're not looking at wholesale heart issues AFAICT, but it does seem to be a far more serious risk, even for the young and healthy, than any previous virus.

Without a thorough review of all the data there’s no answer.  No one on this blog has all the data. So answers are personal opinions, some based on the available data, some based on “what they heard.”

My somewhat professional opinion is based in little data ... I’m dealing more in Occam’s razor.

Either the risk isn’t as bad as some thought, or the medical staff, knowing ahead of time this was a potential issue, have been on the lookout for it and monitoring it extremely closely, thus fewer cases.

Could also be aliens .... wtf do I know right?

The PSU doc that said this, stated he was incorrect about his findings. That was also in the Summer, when COVID was more "novel" than it currently is.

The issue is this. Testing for myocarditis in not common after getting a virus, because 99% of people do not need to be in peak physical shape. Your doctor will tell you to take it easy for a few weeks and then start your 3 days/ week 30 minutes a shot at Planet Fitness and you will be fine.

Is Mgocarditis already taken as a username?

To be snarky, there is the ability to google for stories.

https://www.statnews.com/2020/11/26/myocarditis-mechanical-ventilation-death-join-football-risks-covid-19/

• Outlines many young athletes (14, even) to football coaches who were impacted in serious ways--including the one death that some people tried to justify (wasn't from playing football, and that he had co-morbidities (as if many linemen don't)).

https://www.saltwire.com/sports/football/covid-kicked-butt-of-these-2-nfl-players-527944/

• Myles Freaking Garrett said it "kicked [his] butt." He missed two weeks. Who knows what the long term health impact will be at, based on stories and time. 

To be the realist who is disappointed in where we are as a nation, knowing we'd sacrifice health for a sense of "independent choice making" couched as "freedom":

We cannot pretend to know--we can only strongly infer--all the facts of how impactful Covid will have had on athletes. The datasets are scattered and hidden. There's not national prioritization to collect this data for the good of the nation and for the good of the future understanding.

Many programs are not releasing data. Youth sports are skittish and don't want to be sued, so they keep lips tight. What we know: many, many kids and their families, many college and pro athletes and coaches, have gotten the disease.

Who knows the long term impact in most of them when we are still in the short term place? 

Also, one of the larger points: it does not matter IF many of these college athletes and pros survive and don't have myocarditis--they are most definitely factoring in to the community spread both directly and indirectly. We cannot guarantee that few of these athletes did not spread the disease on down the chainlink fence to those who have been more greatly impacted. Plus, our desire to have a mental respite (like UM football gives respite, ha) from the pandemic has lulled us into allowing for a large number of anti-mask, anti-community nimrods.

Our need to simplify this disease on a case by case basis has led to the US being a less safe, less healthy place to be. 

If people cared about others, cared about people who need the hospitals for other illnesses and injuries, then we wouldn't have settled for these little blog debates. The reality is, 15 million Americans have gotten the disease, 280k have died, and we are in the top 10 per capita as a result--along with every other non-intervention, freedom-screaming, public health neglectful nation-state. 

I mean watching Michigan football pains my heart. So that’s something.