META: Threshold to start an OP

It's a message board. 10-year vets will post threads that suck, newbies will post great ones. I think it's generally well-understood on here how to create content and how to appreciate/not appreciate comments.

If anything, I think some people on here are so hell bent and nervous about the rules they can't be themselves.

How about 500 pts or 100 pts + $500 donation to the site?

I actually enjoy the crappy posts - gives me an opportunity to unleash my snark attacks and clever animated gifs to show the poster how much distain I have for their inpunity in posting such foolishness

Look - if you dont like the title - dont click on it.  My only real complains in posting is tough to fix right now and that's duplicate content cause the original fell off the board and unless you search correctly you'll never see it.

That and "hey my daughter got her first A in algebra POS BANG" threads.  Those get pretty old pretty fast.

And apparel threads.

But I'd leave things alone point & time wise for thread creation.

Ill never understand peoples obsessions with "board clutter" and the like. Leave the system the way it is. The community, with a little mod help, will police itself. At the end of the day a dedicated troll is gonna troll. But he'll get picked out sooner rather then later and either negged into oblivion or ban hammered.

Worst case scenario is you may have to avert your eyes a few centimeters to avoid something. Or you could just grab your pitchfork and go have some fun.

500 points is reasonable. The 90 day deal is also a great idea. In other words, I fully support this META thread. 

1 point more than WD has.

/JK WD, I could not resist that one.

good to me.

I cosign the OP, but would say 300 or 350 is low enough of a threshold for points, and would say that 7 days is enough time to make people wait to post. While we want to preserve the integrity of our online community, I also don't think we want to stifle new people joining that community by having a longer wait or higher point threshold than 7 days and/or 300-350 points, respectively.

People should have at minimum 11,380 mgopoints

I think the point total should be substantially higher.

I like the idea of clearing a time threshold as well.

I think it should be a 1000 pts or maybe 1500

I think it should be a 1000 pts or maybe 1500

500 points

OR

6-months

that way the lurkers that still lurk don't have to feel obligated to make a bunch of posts to be able to start a topic

five years later and I still can't even start a thread....

30 days is probably sufficient.  

I don't know if a point threshold matters if we're still going to have posbang threads all the time.   Also, giving people the right to upvote their own posts is something I've never understood.  

I don't feel like there's a lot of "troll" posts, just a lot of people who don't know the ettiquette or want to add a "me too" thread. These are the ones that annoy me.

Any new post that starts with "I know this was discussed in a previous thread, but..." should be negged to hell and the poster sent to wherever they sent Tate Forcier to disappear.

I enjoy this site/blog more than any other Michigan page on the internet. I have no idea how to do a post and how the MGoPoints work (both positive or negative).

Trying my best to stay in my lane, which is not my MO.

There have been times where I wanted to start a post, but the info eventually gets posted anyways so no biggy biggy biggy.

I do know this, we need to sign, trade for, steal a stud DT, some Tackles and Guards, and maybe a stud Corner before next August!

I miss 2016's defense already.

produce a new thread, which would be voted on for acceptance by all members, or by a named board. 

We'd need a business rule for legacy members though, because standards. 

500 pt threshold seems like it would incentivize making trivial posts in order to get over the hump.

I think it works fine now, but I wouldn't mind a system that counts logins. There seem to be a lot of lurkers who have 2 or 3-digit point totals but have been reading the site for ages. 70 points but 3000 visits over multiple years is not a troll, and may be a someone worth hearing from.

While it's true the MGoBoard might be better off with 50% less threads, part of what makes them so bad is people tripping over their collective dicks to complain about them.  

Case in point - there was an off-topic post last month about a girl who drowned trying to save her sister.  Was that an off-topic post made during the football season?  Yes.  But you know what actually made the post a problem?  Not the post itself, but the at least half-dozen would-be vigilante mods bitching about how a heartrending story wasn't what they wanted to see on MGoBlog.  It should be noted that the very same day, there were several other technically off-topic posts, one of which was about a Charger fan looking up the cheerleaders' skirts and none of these same vigilante mods had the gumption to kvetch about those.  C'mon, man.

Everything in life has trade-offs.   The price we pay for free speech is, well, free speech.  There should be some safeguards for troll posts from newbies, but a 6 month probationary period seems a bit draconian.  Especially when, as others have rightly observed, newer members have often proven to be better posters than people with six-digit MGoPoint totals. Whatever purpose is served by calling out off-topic posts is subsumed when you're being a dick-waving asshat in doing so.

Ultimately, the MGoBoard will be worse if it devolves a country club for longtime members who are passively or agressively hostile to new blood and bite the heads off bad posts at every opportunity.  I'm willing to suffer through the occassional bad post if it ultimately fosters a more diverse and civil community.  Let he who has never made a lame topic cast the first downvote, eh?

The problem with raising the point total and time frame is that for every troll it discourages, it will probably discourage dozens of well-intentioned posters.

I would think something that could be of assistance is more of a break up of the Board. MgoBasketball Board, MgoFootball Board, MgoHockey Board and then maybe an OT Board. Seems this would allow for people to maybe ignore things they have no interest in. Too often it becomes HERO posting where everyone whats to try and prove they are the coolest guy in the room.

I agree a solid 250 points would be a good mark. Though you may block out lurkers who just aren't into posting alot, but who may have good information. 

. . . 500 points seems high to me.    :)

It leaves out people like me who don't have as much to say as the superposters, but have been here for years, and it's still pretty easy for a determined troll to overcome.

I also think that people are a little quick to jump on post creators. Some posts are awful, but some are just not to my tastes.

500 points and 90 days