CFP hypothetical rankings
Since we aren't the players or coaches we can look ahead to projected end of year hypothetical rankings.
Assuming Alabama and Michigan go undefeated through the conference championships, who do you think will be ranked #1?
In this scenario I think Michigans body of work is more impressive as long as Colorado and PSU keep winning. That would give UM wins over 5 teams ranked in the top 25 (CU, PSU, OSU, Wiscy (2)), maybe even a 6th if Iowa wins some more.
Bama would have wins over A&M, Auburn, UF, LSU, and USC (if they get back in the top 25).
Curious to hear what everyone else thinks, I'll hang up and listen.
November 1st, 2016 at 11:22 AM ^
Well two years ago they said OSU couldn't hang with Alabama and how did that turn out?
And last year they said MSU couldn't hang with Alabama and how did that turn out? BTW, I think Bama just scored again on you Sparty.
November 1st, 2016 at 11:22 AM ^
Yep. Just heard this morning it's "Alabama and everyone else."
November 1st, 2016 at 11:26 AM ^
might be going into a snake pit on Saturday. That would be quite a win for LSU and my guess is that they come to play.
November 1st, 2016 at 11:20 AM ^
Doesn't matter, we don't have a home field advantage in either venue, and will have to beat two great teams to get to our goals.
It is fun to talk about, but it really doesn't make a big difference.
November 1st, 2016 at 11:23 AM ^
We will not pass Alabama in the playoff rankings if we both go 13-0, unless we absolutely clobber OSU and whoever we face in the conference championship game. Even then, Alabama might do the same to LSU/Auburn and Florida in the SEC game. No way we pass Bama.
Ideal situation would be:
1. Bama 2. Michigan 3. Clemson 4. Louisville
Lamar Jackson has the game of his life and takes out Bama, our D shuts down Clemson.
Our D shuts down Jackson in the title game, just like DB did last year at BC (also I want revenge for that horrible 2013 BB title game and all the horrible Cards fans I had to sit by).
November 1st, 2016 at 11:30 AM ^
Alabama losing to LSU and Auburn!
November 1st, 2016 at 11:36 AM ^
Only if A&M would win out and make the playoffs. Then we play A&M in the 1v4 game and play the winner of Clemson/Washington/Louisville.
I just don't want a scenario where Bama loses the one game they lose every year, we go up to number one, then Bama sneaks back into the playoffs and we get a pissed off #4 seed Bama. That seems like zero fun, sir.
November 1st, 2016 at 11:54 AM ^
That is why I specified two losses as the ideal. I think that we are best off if it is either two or none. I would rather we have only 1 week to prepare for them and vice versa rather than 4 weeks.
November 1st, 2016 at 12:35 PM ^
A&M and Florida in the SEC championship game the week after Florida loses to Florida State is a hard scenario to beat.
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November 1st, 2016 at 11:27 AM ^
only after OSU has a 2nd loss.
November 1st, 2016 at 11:28 AM ^
November 1st, 2016 at 2:59 PM ^
The most important game for this hypothetical scenario is at the Big House on Saturday against Maryland.
My favorite thing about college football is the unpredictability. We are going to have to have more focus than we did on Saturday to avoid an upset.
November 1st, 2016 at 11:29 AM ^
Yes, if you strippped the names off the resumes, Michigan and Alabama would have extremely similar resumes.
BUT... 'Bama is the reigning champ and will (rightly so) get the benefit of the doubt until someone beats them. This shouldn't be a surpise.
November 1st, 2016 at 11:38 AM ^
If you look at the teams they've beaten right now I agree that they are close.
The issue UM is going to have to fight is at the end of the season people are gonna remember where those teams were when the games were played.
Bama has 5 wins over top 20 teams (when the games were played). That will be bandied about by people making the pro-Bama (or just pro-SEC arguement). They also have 2 more left on the schedule (LSU this week and Auburn). So if they win out it will be at least 6.
Michigan has 1 against Wisconsin.
Now as the season unfolded maybe PSU and Colorado turned out to be solid teams and Tenn Ole Miss and Ark aren't that great but then you'll just get the "SEC BEATS EACH OTHER UP! THEY ARE ALL SO GOOD!" argument.
Basically the SEC bias is a strong machine to beat.
November 1st, 2016 at 12:03 PM ^
would be 2, Colorado will likely be top-20, so that would be 3 wins, and then assuming a win over Wisconsin or Nebraska would likely be a top 20 win as well in the BIG title game, so it really wouldn't be that lopsided.
November 1st, 2016 at 12:35 PM ^
So we currently have 3 wins over top 25 opponents. Add OSU and the West Division Champ and that would be 5.
November 1st, 2016 at 11:29 AM ^
Bama is #1 until someone beats them.
Keep winning and Michigan gets that a shot at that.
November 1st, 2016 at 11:32 AM ^
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November 1st, 2016 at 11:38 AM ^
I don't see how you can say that Michigan has a better body of work if both teams wins out. Alabama has a chance to beat a #15 ranked LSU this week and what probably will be (given they win out as well) top 10 ranked Auburn the last week of the season... THEN they get the SEC Championship game with probably an overrated and overranked Florida in the top ten...
Michigan gets OSU (if they beat Nebraska this week) in the top ten and then hopefully a top ten ranked Wisky or Nebraska (One of them needs to win out).
I think it would be unfair to jump Alabama if they don't drop a game.
I look forward to the chance to play them. It will be a tough test as their biggest strength, pass rush, will test our biggest weakness, pass protect.
November 1st, 2016 at 11:38 AM ^
...I can only imagine the sound of three things I would like to hear the most if the team wins the natty:
1) The absolute glee coming from the team, our fanbase, alum, students, etc
2) The props from the school south of us - yes, a few of the nutjobs will be nutjobs, but most of them would give props.
3) And this probably isn't listed in terms of importance/desire - the sound of the sparty nation. They would sound like a pack of chihuahuas on meth, but it would sound like a symphony to my ears.
Dream over. MD this week. Win with character, win with cruelty.
November 1st, 2016 at 11:40 AM ^
This weekend, we're rooting for Nebraska correct? Guilt free rooting against the Buckeyes. I typically try to hold out for what's best for Michigan, and can do that with Sparty. But every time OSU plays I want them taken down, even if a win helps Michigan.
This Saturday though, an OSU loss hands us the East, even if we lose in Columbus (and no I don't want to lose in Columbus, "Just win the games" guy). And we'll be in the playoff with a B1G Championship win over Nebraska. Much rather play Nebraska than Wisky again in that game.
November 1st, 2016 at 12:22 PM ^
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November 1st, 2016 at 12:23 PM ^
Generally speaking, we always root for B1G West teams to win their games against B1G East teams not named the Michigan Wolverines.
November 1st, 2016 at 11:40 AM ^
I WANT Bama in the first game...
More time for Harbaugh to prepare.
If we get them in the FINAL, we only have a week...
November 1st, 2016 at 12:22 PM ^
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November 1st, 2016 at 12:51 PM ^
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November 1st, 2016 at 11:44 AM ^
What do you see happening if Michigan wins out in the regular season, but loses a close game to 1-loss Nebraska in the BTCG?
Can both Michigan and Nebraska somehow make the CFP field? There would definitely need to be help (Washington, Louisville, maybe even Clemson losing). 12-1 Michigan and 12-1 Nebraska, along with Alabama and one of Clemson/Washington?
To me, this really seems like the best scenario to get two B1G teams into the playoff.
Of course, I'd much prefer Michigan to just run the table and get in undefeated!
November 1st, 2016 at 12:52 PM ^
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November 1st, 2016 at 11:52 AM ^
I am convinced the Committee will rank Clemson as #2 and we'll be #3. Now, it doesn't matter--even if its ends up that way, #2 plays #3, it just affects the color of your jersey. And if the bowl game is smart, they'd do a "color rush" and have us in home blue w/ maize pants, vs. Clemson in home orange -- that would look visually awesome.
But we'll be #3 tonight. Clemson's strength of schedule is ranked #1, and the committee highly values that. Their top 3 wins (Louisville, Auburn, FSU--two on the road) look better than our top 3 (Wiscy, Colorado, PSU--all at home). The one thing that might change the committee's mind: Clemson should have lost the NC State game -- they were outplayed and only by the grace of God did that chip-shot field goal miss (and the kicker actually made it moments ago, but a last-moment TO made the play not count). Clemson also didn't play well vs. Troy, but that was week 2 after a win at Auburn and I think that game won't move the needle.
Looking forward, we maybe can jump Clemson by beating OSU then Nebraska or Wiscy. Clemson has no one good left, and they will probably play VaTech in the ACC championship, not nearly as impressive as our opponent. Myabe.
November 1st, 2016 at 11:54 AM ^
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November 1st, 2016 at 11:57 AM ^
Probably does not matter too much now.
November 1st, 2016 at 12:17 PM ^
Followed by Clemson, Washington and a 1 loss Alabama team at #4.
November 1st, 2016 at 1:32 PM ^
From a pure SOS standpoint, Clemson > Alabama=Michigan, plus Clemson has already played their 3 toughest games. From a performance standpoint Alabama=Michigan>Clemson. With Alabama as defending champ, they will be #1. Depending on the weight they give the SOS vs performance Clemson and Michigan will be #2 and #3. Washington will be a distant #4 with Louisville and OSU right behind.
November 1st, 2016 at 1:47 PM ^
Responding to the OP, I still think Bama's resume would be a little more impressive.
November 1st, 2016 at 6:16 PM ^
Bama has beaten Arkansas, Tennessee, and Texas A&M who are all overrated.