Big 10 "Re-Vote" Set for Tomorrow?
I was hesitant to even post this as I originally saw it on Twitter from this Sir Yacht character but now some other sources are picking it up. That said, there's some reporting that the Big 10 Presidents will hold a re-vote tomorrow to begin the season on October 10th. 9 yes votes are needed to pass it with schools being able to opt out. Sounds like they may have the votes to pass it with Rutgers, Maryland, Illinois, and Northwestern opting out until the 2021 fall season. Additionally, the reporting says there will be schedule changes, further safety measures in place, and potentially rapid tests being distributed to all athletes regardless of what sport they participate in.
Again, I have no idea how reputable this is but its out there with some smoke billowing.
September 2nd, 2020 at 9:03 PM ^
Did Sir Yacht throw Warren overboard before he tweeted?
September 2nd, 2020 at 9:04 PM ^
Perhaps you should show these other sources. Sir Paddleboat was already proved to be a a bullshitter.
September 2nd, 2020 at 9:13 PM ^
I can't link it right now but the other one I've seen picking up the story is Dave Biddle whom I think covers Ohio State for 247. I'm not familiar with the guy which is why I threw that caveat in my original post about not knowing how reputable the reporting is.
September 2nd, 2020 at 9:32 PM ^
How can you not link? Are you still trying to master copy/paste? Have you been kidnapped by a drug cartel that’s OK with you typing on Mgoblog but not OK with providing links?
September 3rd, 2020 at 7:08 AM ^
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All my contacts say it's smoke:
September 3rd, 2020 at 3:41 PM ^
Dave Biddle is probably equally or less credible than random internet person, just to be clear. He’s absolutely a mouthpiece for the more insane factions at OSU.
September 2nd, 2020 at 9:38 PM ^
https://twitter.com/Balas_Wolverine/status/1301331935223001090
Chris Balas now.
September 2nd, 2020 at 9:04 PM ^
R. P. McMurphy gets his re-vote.
September 2nd, 2020 at 9:07 PM ^
this is what r. p. got for wishing for football before the time was 'correct'
September 2nd, 2020 at 9:12 PM ^
That looks like a good time compared to reading the board lately. But at least we aren't osu fans. Those things have gone bananas.
September 2nd, 2020 at 10:46 PM ^
Hadn’t seen you in a while. Was beginning to wonder if a tree fell down on you when you were cutting it down.
September 3rd, 2020 at 6:41 AM ^
i took a while off because of the ridiculous toxicity of the board. see last friday's 'i'm fine, the board is broken' thread for details if you're interested. i only posted in this thread b/c it concerned football. well, it was football for a little while then crud.
trees are down. need to do some bucking and splitting, but we are set for wood this winter.
September 3rd, 2020 at 6:57 AM ^
"Let's see the hands!"
September 2nd, 2020 at 9:04 PM ^
Great news.
September 2nd, 2020 at 9:05 PM ^
Links? Sources? (Not Sir Jon Boat)
September 2nd, 2020 at 9:06 PM ^
hearing a lot of underground chatter about high school football in michigan getting going - as soon as 'week 4' for games. would be wonderful. the news is out: covid is real, it can be dangerous, but not for the kids.
EDIT: apparently that chatter was accurate. wonder why the negs, though. what was the problem?
September 2nd, 2020 at 9:09 PM ^
Yep, because kids don't live in multi-generational homes or have teachers or coaches that aren't kids themselves nor have underlying health conditions.
September 2nd, 2020 at 9:13 PM ^
so those kids don't have to play. you won't force them, will you?
September 2nd, 2020 at 9:56 PM ^
So you are going to keep your little Typhoid Johnny Football away from the rest of the kids on school and in public, right? And from the rest of society? You wouldn’t put the rest of the society at harm just for your kid to play a game, right?
Or are the only ones who have to sacrifice for society those that understand how a virus spreads?
September 2nd, 2020 at 10:00 PM ^
spent a couple weeks in the covid dorm. he's good to go now. thank you for your well-wishes for his really great recovery.
September 2nd, 2020 at 10:16 PM ^
You don’t understand the thought process. Everyone must have the same opportunity. If anyone can’t play then the only fair thing in life is that nobody can play.
September 3rd, 2020 at 11:11 AM ^
Upvoting assuming the sarcasm.
September 2nd, 2020 at 9:18 PM ^
Nobody is forced to play, kids living in households with elderly or sickly relatives can opt out just like coaches with health problems can also.
September 2nd, 2020 at 9:25 PM ^
My asthmatic ass can't opt out of teaching them.
September 2nd, 2020 at 9:30 PM ^
and with genuine sympathy, those kids playing football is an incremental risk to you at most. if you are wearing a mask and social distancing, and the kids mask and/or social distance, the slim chance a football player gets it from another football player and then goes into your class and defeats his mask and social distance and defeats your mask and social distance is pretty remote. and the kids are the priority, not us old people.
September 2nd, 2020 at 9:31 PM ^
"Kids are the priority," you're not wrong there.
September 2nd, 2020 at 9:36 PM ^
the kids are the priority, not us old people
What the hell. Football is not a priority over older peoples' lives.
September 2nd, 2020 at 9:51 PM ^
there is so much more to 'football' than the game. don't reduce it to a mild game of checkers. the reasons to play football (and many other sports) are so far beyond blocking and tackling. there is team work, life long friendships, leadership, acceptance of leadership and authority, guts, desire, character, intensity, overcoming fear, learning aggression in a proper context, physical development, winning and losing and on and on. and yes, kids learning that is way more important than us old people.
September 2nd, 2020 at 10:01 PM ^
I learned every single one of those things without ever playing a down of football. Kids missing one season of football won't prevent them from learning those lessons either.
September 2nd, 2020 at 10:53 PM ^
No, no you didn’t.
September 3rd, 2020 at 6:54 AM ^
i paid homage to other sports, and i assume you played some growing up.
question: have you heard of any bad outcomes because of high school football being played in the other approx 35 states? i haven't heard of anything but maybe i've missed it.
September 3rd, 2020 at 8:24 AM ^
I live in a rural community in Indiana. The nearest school has been having athletic competitions for just over two weeks. There have been at least a dozen cancellations, which as of this week includes two football games. Now, the other schools aren't announcing that they're because of Covid, but I'll be you any amount of money you want that is why they are being cancelled.
September 3rd, 2020 at 10:08 AM ^
thank you for that input. that seems like an excellent outcome. no big problems, skip a week or two, keep on going. in the unlikely event that we are allowed to play in michigan i fully expect the same.
September 3rd, 2020 at 12:07 PM ^
I'd say the people that invariably come into contact with infected kids who either refuse to get tested or don't even tell someone they're sick would disagree with you. But hey, you know best, right?
September 3rd, 2020 at 1:57 PM ^
where did you get the rest of that response? the bit about 'infected...refuse to tell...' etc what is it about football players that makes you think that they would be somehow more deceptive than the rest of the student body, including any other athlete that is allowed to play all of those other sports like, say, soccer?
September 3rd, 2020 at 11:51 AM ^
Every Midwest state has a higher number of new cases today, using a 7 day average, than it did 8 weeks ago: http://91-divoc.com/pages/covid-visualization/?chart=states&highlight=Wisconsin&show=us-states&y=both&scale=linear&data=cases-daily-7&data-source=jhu&xaxis=right-8wk&extra=Michigan%2CIndiana%2COhio%2CIllinois%2CPennsylvania#states
September 3rd, 2020 at 2:02 PM ^
'new cases' is actually a near meaningless statistic right now. new cases rising because of lots more testing. and folks getting multiple tests. and false positives as has been discussed here.
flatten the curve was a great goal. we did it. treatments are available that either eliminate or shorten hospital stays. no hospital systems are overwhelmed. there won't be a time in the next 5 years where new cases won't continue as long as we are testing for it. what do you propose is the goal?
September 3rd, 2020 at 5:27 PM ^
Having a case of COVID-19 is no joke not to mention the related myocarditis potential and the potential long-term effects of reduced respiratory function.
I propose the goal is isolate and mask as much as possible to reduce the potential of spreading a deadly and highly contagious virus that we don't have a cure for or can easily test at large scale. Professional sports bubbles can work because they are able to effectively isolate and test everyday with teams in a single location without traveling. Doing that just for the 65 power 5 teams of over a hundred people plus the support staff to pull it all off is an incredibly high cost to pay. The 15,000 tests a day you need for this alone is over 2% of daily testing capacity in the entire United States (~700,000/day). Just do the math, none of this makes financial sense for football let alone the increased health risks to players. Basketball is about 1/10th of the complexity and even that is not likely to happen unless there are drastic (and proven) changes to the ability to test.
September 3rd, 2020 at 6:55 PM ^
will you be protesting the governor's decision to allow fall sports? anyone gets sick, blood on her hands, right?
September 3rd, 2020 at 1:09 PM ^
See, this post tells me that you already know you were spouting bullshit, but instead of owning up to that delusional nonsense, you start sealioning as a distraction.
This is not convincing. Nobody is fooled.
September 3rd, 2020 at 1:51 PM ^
moncole,
i had high hopes for you after friday's post. oh well.
as i understand it, 35 states are playing football, including ohio, indiana, and wisconsin. i have heard of zero problems from any of them. shopsmart says they might have some cancellations in his area, but that's it so obviously no big deal. so it is a legit question: have you (or anyone) heard of any type of bad outcome because all of these states are playing football?
and if that simple question is sealioning then we have moved the definition to: any difficult question, especially one where the answer would appear to indicate you are wrong about something.
September 2nd, 2020 at 10:29 PM ^
This may be the stupidest thing I’ve ever read in my entire life.
September 3rd, 2020 at 6:50 AM ^
you must have missed out on about 5,000 threads in the last 6 months or so. this thread (and my comments) couldn't hold a candle to some of the dandies in those.
September 3rd, 2020 at 1:18 AM ^
You don’t want others to minimize the importance of football, but it seems you are wading in too deep the other way.
I’ve been on the board long enough to know you are not a dumb jock, but it’s over aggrandizing comments like this which cause people to call athletes dumb jocks.
As someone who excelled in both sports and music, I can tell you both took just as much dedication, commitment and effort. Both taught life lessons and many of them were the same lessons.
September 3rd, 2020 at 4:29 AM ^
A good way to teach children to accept authority is for them to be taught to accept medical expertise instead of allowing them to think the game they want to play is more important than other people's lives.
September 3rd, 2020 at 6:45 AM ^
it's also important to teach them about false equivalencies and false framing of issues.
have you heard of any outbreaks in the 35 or so states that are playing now, and that those outbreaks are due to football? i haven't, but maybe i've missed them.
September 4th, 2020 at 7:38 AM ^
I have heard of several outbreaks among college football teams just from training. So have you, so I don't know why you're asking this question, which can only undermine your position.
Re: the particular games you want to focus on, have they been playing for 2+ weeks yet? Are they testing comprehensively? If not, we just don't know whether there are outbreaks yet.
September 2nd, 2020 at 10:03 PM ^
By George, you are catching on here. There, however, remains a significant issue with compliance. Defiant parents are coming into my wife's pediatric practice demanding waivers for their kids-to be mask free. This behavior must not be allowed.
September 2nd, 2020 at 10:58 PM ^
So don't give them the waiver. See how easy that was?