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Brian April 28th, 2021 at 9:06 AM

Fairly unusual. Any interest in an inside-the-park grand slam? Sure:

That's probably up there in terms of least driven home runs, anywhere.

This is not a bucket list thing but it should be. As anyone who follows @internetraj on twitter (or reads Punt/Counterpunt) knows, the idea of a "bucket list" was invented by the 2007 Jack Nicholson/Morgan Freeman vehicle The Bucket List. This is distressing to many people who experience a sudden onset of the Mandela effect when told this, because they thought bucket lists were a thing well before the release of a 2007 buddy comedy.

Anyway, opening the floodgates has nothing to do with Curt Flood but it should. Fifty years ago today Flood retired from baseball, a relatively peripheral figure on the field but a seismic event for the business of sports:

Curtis Flood, once one of the game’s best defensive outfielders and a founding father of modern free agency, quietly fled Washington and the Senators on April 27, 1971. He had tried to change Major League Baseball forever and emerged too scarred to believe he could ever find a home there again.

“It devoured him,” his widow, Judy Pace Flood, a decorated actor for decades whom Flood first saw when she appeared with Willie Mays on “The Dating Game,” said in a phone interview last week. She remembered one of Flood’s teammates with the Senators told her later that “Curt was the saddest person he had ever met or seen. It was awful.”

The last time Pace Flood saw him that year, she was dropping him off at spring training. He was out of shape after missing a year while he refused to report to Philadelphia, and his new Senators manager, Ted Williams, reportedly bemoaned the fact that the team signed him in the first place. He was radioactive, a man who had sued a baseball establishment so powerful that many of his teammates and close friends, Gibson included, were too worried about the consequences to stand alongside him or attend his court hearings.

Tremors of Flood's departure are still being felt today—the NCAA is just now removing the sit-out year from revenue sport transfers. He paid a tremendous price just because he asked for basic fairness. RIP.

[After THE JUMP: Tschetter is hard to make a pun out of?]

Mark Emmert is distressed by this and will consider a blue-ribbon panel. In the wake of some obvious disparities between the men's and women's basketball tournaments comes this report on disparities between baseball and softball:

Until 2011, there were no locker rooms; players changed into their uniforms at their hotels or on the bus. There were no bathrooms in the stadium dugouts, forcing players to run along the baseline or into the stands to share bathrooms with fans. When coaches begged for bathrooms, they arrived the next year at the tournament to find a portable toilet waiting for them in the dugout.

“I used to tell my players to go before the game, because how would you like to be caught coming out of a Porta-Potty on national TV?” one coach said. “And then there was the smell.”

The NCAA has an agreement to keep the softball championship in Oklahoma City until 2035, meaning that this seemingly inadequate and archaic stadium is it for the foreseeable future. And the kicker:

…on television, the Women’s College World Series draws nearly as many viewers as baseball. While the ratings for the NCAA men’s basketball championship far outstrip those for the women’s, the softball tournament drew an average of 1 million viewers over the 2019 tournament, according to ESPN, while baseball drew 1.1 million.

ESPN, which airs both championships, considers the sports to be roughly equal in value to the network, according to a person familiar with the sports’ television rights. The network paid $500 million in 2010 for the right to broadcast the two events, along with the women’s basketball tournament and nearly two dozen other championships, until 2024.

You can kind of squint and maybe see a justification for some gaps between men's and women's basketball. Not by the way the NCAA reckons its value publicly, but there's at least a hypothetical path where you could make an argument. Softball and baseball are virtually identical in terms of revenue! What are we doing?

Almost gone. Eli Brooks was pretty close to moving on:

“Being in the bubble, getting tested every day, he was like, ‘I don’t think I can do this again. I’m not coming back,’” Kelly said. “It was a really hard year for the kids. Not being around their families at all. Being in the (postseason) bubble for so long. It was just really hard. Making the decision, he had to wait until that was all over.”

Sportswriter versus athlete ends one way. A novel version of Someone Thinks Brian Scalabrine Is A Scrub played out in rural Minnesota last week as Post Bulletin sportswriter Isaac Trotter challenged one Will Tschetter to some one-on-one:

I could already see the storyline forming. I was going to have blood streaming down my face like Braveheart and I was going to beat Tschetter.

That idea lasted for, like, 4 seconds.

Tschetter got the ball back and went to work. I was determined not to get dunked on, but that strategy doesn’t work at all when a 6-foot-9 forward is one of the best shooters in the state. He shot 44 percent from 3-point range in 2021, and he got hot in a hurry. He splashed five 3-pointers in a row. I didn’t touch the ball one more time in the first game, and it was 5-0 before I could blink.

"I’m in my zone,” Tschetter said. “You might be in trouble."

Trotter was indeed in trouble.

“Can you just miss like one shot, please,” I begged.

So he'll be elite against undersized future sportswriters. How he does against Big Ten teams not named "Northwestern" is still to be determined.

Even more NHL Draft rankings. The Hockey News has Power 1, Beniers 5, Hughes 6, Johnson 7, and Samoskevich 24. NHL.com has Power 1, Hughes 2, Johnson 4, Beniers 7, and Samoskevich 31. McKeens has Beniers(!) 1, Power 2, Hughes 3, Johnson 11, and doesn't have Samoskevich in their first round.

Etc.: Daily photographer Alec Cohen compiles his career at Michigan. This article on Maxwell's Demon references Claude Shannon and therefore has a connection to Michigan, however tenuous.

Comments

JeepinBen

April 28th, 2021 at 9:43 AM ^

I don't necessarily agree with the official scorer, but I could see the argument that the runner in the basepath disrupted the SS enough to not charge an error. One could also make an argument that it's an infield hit and a 2-base error on the CF as well.

In any event, I love the 3rd base coach sending her. Running Beer-League Softball style "keep running until they prove they can make a play at a base"

wolfman81

April 28th, 2021 at 11:31 AM ^

Actually, it would seem that my quote applies to baseball.  Sections 21 and 22 of the softball portion of the above manual (page 11) seem more appropriate.  That part of the manual is less forgiving about misjudgements:

Section 21. a. An error is charged against any fielder for each misplay (i.e., fielding, wild throws, missed catches on good throws) that prolongs the life of a batter (causes one or pitches to be thrown) or a runner or permits a runner to advance. This includes a dropped foul ball unless it was allowed to drop intentionally to prevent a runner from advancing.

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Section 22. No error is charged to a fielder in the following situations:

  1. When a ball is misplayed due to being lost in the sun or lights, blown by the wind, or if the fielder slips and falls—even if contact is made with the ball.
  2. When there is a mental mistake. Throwing to the wrong base is considered a mental mistake.
  3. (Skipping c-g)
  4. When a fielder drops a ball after running a considerable distance or if she fails in her attempt to catch the ball while running at a high rate of speed.

Most of the language about misjudgements relate to fly balls, not ground balls...I suppose item f ("When a ball is hit with such force, so slowly or with erratic spin that it would require more than ordinary effort to play the ball.") could apply as well.

JamieH

April 28th, 2021 at 1:56 PM ^

It's absolutely, positively, 100% an E6.

The E8 is debatable.  The center fielder was running towards second to back up the play, assuming the SS would stop the ball. When the ball got through, she was in a terrible position to try and recover to stop it.  You could give her an error for being out of position, but once she was out of position, trying to stop that ball was a difficult play at best.  She was assuming the SS would make the relatively routine play.

I personally would score it E6, with no E8.

UM85

April 28th, 2021 at 10:48 AM ^

In MLB, if the ball goes right through your legs, that is normally charged as an error, even if you don't get a glove on it. Sometimes, the scorer will be charitable if it takes an especially wicked bounce. 

"A fielder is given an error if, in the judgment of the official scorer, he fails to convert an out on a play that an average fielder should have made. Fielders can also be given errors if they make a poor play that allows one or more runners to advance on the bases."

Since we're talking about MLB-quality players, the bar for the "average fielder" is quite high.

Mi Sooner

April 28th, 2021 at 11:35 AM ^

That was my understanding, but that may be an old school interpretation.  It looks like neither player touched the ball; both did misplay the ball.  The SS misplaying the bounce, and the OF taking a poor angle to the ball.

If the SS cleanly plays the ball, it’s a 643 express double play.

??‍♂️
 

Edit:  UM85 is correct.  
Under the rule he quoted, it could have been scored E6 and 1 run and E8(?) and 3 runs scored.  The outfielder’s oops was the big one.  She knocks the ball down and maybe only one more run scores leaving the game at 3-2 UMich.

Sione For Prez

April 28th, 2021 at 11:37 AM ^

Even with the runner cutting across she had an unobstructed look at the ball the entire way. I think she either misjudged how big the initial hop was or she hesitated a beat while trying to figure out what she wanted to do once she fielded it (tag runner, throw home, throw to another base). 

Either way, a chopper through the legs is going to get an error every time. 

JamieH

April 28th, 2021 at 1:59 PM ^

Yeah, no way that isn't an error on the SS.  Even though the runner (correctly) distracted her, she is expected to make that play.  

BTW, the runner did the exact right thing.  You want to visually interfere with the fielder as much as possible without touching either the ball or the fielder.  If she touches the ball or bumps the fielder, she's out.

I don't know how much leeway you are given to be out of the basepaths to avoid a fielder in the process of fielding the ball, but she moved forward just enough to avoid it being interference.   

Grampy

April 28th, 2021 at 9:55 AM ^

I’m intrigued by the notion of equating information and energy. (See Maxwell’s demon)  Apart from wondering if there is more information in a gallon of gas than a gallon of water, I’m curious if the banning of posters, and their associated information, from this board increases or decreases its entropy?

WolverBean

April 28th, 2021 at 8:37 PM ^

Tongue in cheek I know, but your question does actually have an easy answer: more posters = more entropy. More information entropy on the Board, and also more physical entropy from the heat expended by more typing fingers.

What's fun about physics is that banning posters ALSO raises the entropy of the universe. (Insert death star gif here)

LeCheezus

April 28th, 2021 at 10:14 AM ^

"You can kind of squint and maybe see a justification for some gaps between men's and women's basketball."

Am I missing something here?  Is there not a drastic difference in revenue generated and TV eyeballs between these two sports?  NCAA Men's basketball basically created a market for office pool driven illegal gambling and dictates the supply/demand balance of the entire chicken wing market for a month every year.  If the NCAA is driven by revenue (and we know it mainly is) then I don't think much squinting is required.

bronxblue

April 28th, 2021 at 10:29 AM ^

Yeah, I don't think it's particularly hard to understand why the NCAA caters more to men than women when it comes to basketball, though I will say that the stark differences we've seen are even a bit of a stretch on that front.  Like, the lack of workout facilities this year, different COVID testing, awful food options for women, and even the lack of branding is jarring given the fact that the women's game still generated a $500M deal with ESPN.  It's absolutely not March Madness money but you'd still hope some of the basics would be closer to equality.

WindyCityBlue

April 28th, 2021 at 11:54 AM ^

I know I'm going to sound like I'm defending the NCAA, but I assure you that's not my intent.  With that, since non-revenue/non-profit generating college sports (i.e. women's basketball) are subsidized by those that do make revenue/profit, it seems to would be best to focus your effort on maximizing said revenue/profit from men's basketball.  That way, more money can be utilized for women's basketball. 

ZooWolverine

April 28th, 2021 at 3:50 PM ^

I was confused by the statement initially, but interpreted Brian's "not by the way the NCAA reckons its value publicly" as meaning exactly what you're saying.

If the NCAA truly believes what it says, (sports are not played for profit, and it doesn't pay the players because they don't produce value, the schools produce value), then spending much more on male sports than female sports doesn't make sense. Of course, even if you're cynical and accept that more money would be spent on men's basketball vs women's, it still makes no sense to spend more on baseball than softball.

matty blue

April 29th, 2021 at 6:23 AM ^

i think you can make that case in terms of tv contracts, NIL rights, and media coverage.  i think it’s much, much harder to do it in terms of facilities.  these are (ostensibly) non-profit educational institutions that receive federal funds, engaging in an extra-curricular, institutionally-advocated and -sponsored activity. suggesting that the athletes get at least in the same zip code of similar treatment when they play and train is a squint-free activity.

wile_e8

April 28th, 2021 at 1:15 PM ^

Raj's evidence is there are approximately* zero instances of the phrase "bucket list" in popular lexicon before the movie came out. But I feel like the idea of "things I want to do before I die" has existed much longer than that, but no one used the specific phrase "bucket list" to describe it until the movie. 

*If you try hard enough you can probably find some obscure person who used it once or twice, but it didn't become a common phrase until the movie

lhglrkwg

April 28th, 2021 at 11:49 AM ^

Yeah I can't tell if it's a joke I'm missing or not. "Bucket list" was around wayyyy before 2007 but the internet is making me feel like I'm crazy because searching for the origin of the term leads to multiple articles about how the movie popularized it. I'm an 80s kid and I've definitely been using that term most of my life

bronxblue

April 28th, 2021 at 10:24 AM ^

Reading about the month-plus college basketball players spent in the bubble and everything they had to deal with sounded rough; I think we all sort of forgot/didn't notice just how hard it must have been to be that restricted in your behavior.  Credit to them for doing as well as they did.

It's crazy to me that the facilities for softball are so bad at the championships.  Like, bathrooms and lockerrooms seems pretty standard for stadiums by this point, and especially when you know you're going to have a ton of people using it for a prestigious event you figure you'd improve the facilities.