Hail Harbo

April 9th, 2018 at 7:50 PM ^

The article states that the objection was from last month.

The objection recently sent to the NCAA could impact Patterson's ongoing transfer waiver appeal as he is looking to immediately become eligible to play for Michigan in 2018. The objection is part of a response delivered to the NCAA last month, according to attorney Thomas Mars.

So it isn't new, and in fact I think if we peruse earlier threads we'll find we already discussed the objection.

canzior

April 10th, 2018 at 9:29 AM ^

why anyone cares?  If Ole Miss doesn't object, aren't they essentially "pleding guilty" in their on-going case? For no other reason than appearances, they have to seem as though they are putting up a fight. 

Arb lover

April 9th, 2018 at 9:00 PM ^

The team felt that Ole Miss would most likely just not say much at all because they were damned if they said anything negative given the evidence. If you look back at our responses on this blog nobody here really expected them to go full throttle either. Tuesday night quarterbacking is a different story entirely.

For whatever reason we also didn't provide all the evidence that was available, at the time. I think because some of it gets into the weeds a bit and because sometimes when you provide too much to regulators, they just look at the first thing you provide, or the wrong thing you provide. 

thespacepope

April 10th, 2018 at 10:57 AM ^

I am a mostly useless poster and I never really had an opinion on whether Shea would be immediately eligible. You seem like a decent fellow but I hope that the NCAA makes him immediately eligible just so I don't have to see this post in every football thread for the next 18 months.

Catchafire

April 9th, 2018 at 7:07 PM ^

There has been a lot of positive news in the media on Ole Miss.  News such as number one recruiting class, 4 star player going to ole miss, Paul Finebaum saying to buy ole miss stock, etc.  I'm not surprised by this one bit.

 

What I hope to see is the truth, but I doubt it.  Look to MSU who have faced ZERO NCAA repercussions and you see that maybe nothing will come of Ole Miss.  But boy do I sure hope that Shea plays for Michgan next season.

 

Sad.  To much money involved.  

ijohnb

April 9th, 2018 at 7:21 PM ^

issue is that college athletics have gotten so big and dirty that the NCAA is really in over their heads. What goes on at a lot of schools is less slush-fundish and more organized crime. The NCAA doesn’t have the weapons or the know-how to fight these battles. And what is their option to really effect change? Shut it all down? A clean “do-over?” Can’t, it is too big to fail for a whole lot of people. College athletics is in trouble. Nobody really wants to see it, but it is a house of cards. The clock is ticking.

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True Blue Grit

April 10th, 2018 at 8:37 AM ^

if they had bonafide leadership at the top.  They have plenty of money and resources to take on cheaters if they really wanted to.  But, instead, Mark The Asshat Emmert and his cronies continue to make poor decisions, set bad examples, and stick their head in the sand instead of taking on serious problems.  IMO, one big mistake they've made is not going right to the top at major universities to make substantive changes.   That means the university presidents.  

gruden

April 10th, 2018 at 11:13 AM ^

Well, another way to look at this is by approving the transfers it allows the NCAA to levy a de facto punishment on Ole Miss, allowing 6 good players to leave the program and play elsewhere.  Easy punishment to levy... if they can bring themselves to it.

Indiana Blue

April 9th, 2018 at 7:11 PM ^

Michigan gets fucked by every possible "regulatory" orgainzation of college sports ... and they shouldn't give a shit about what they they ever say.  They were caught cheating and that alone should preclude them from presenting any argument.  

It won't matter though ... I would bet the Patterson is the ONLY player denied by the NCAA.  It is so obvious and yet sparty just screws whoever they want with no recourse whatsoever.

Go Blue!

Bigly yuge

April 9th, 2018 at 7:13 PM ^

We all know the NCAA is not going to grant Shea immediate eligibility. Its the NCAA and it is Michigan lol. Prepare yourselves for McCaffery or Peters.

I Like Burgers

April 9th, 2018 at 7:58 PM ^

It sounds like everyone was pretty confident Ole Miss would just be like "sure" when it came to their response and offer no resistance.

Which is just fucking stupid, but also sounds exactly like something Michigan would do.  When it comes to dealing with the shady side of CFB and athletics they seem to be naive and clueless as hell.

grumbler

April 10th, 2018 at 7:58 AM ^

There was no reason for Michigan to go scortched eart on the appeal application the first time around.  If, as it happened, Old Miss resisted the waiver, Michigan could lunload  In the absence of evidence that Michigan needed to go nuclear, going nuclear wasn't the best tactic, because it would give Old Miss no incentive to stand down for fear of things getting hot.  I think Michigan handled this right.

As for others being confident, you'd have to ask them for their reasons.  

EGD

April 10th, 2018 at 8:08 AM ^

I don't know.  Typically bluster is a sign of weakness.  A lawyer who has a good case keeps his mouth shut and wins it.  A lawyer who has a shaky case insults his opponent and says shit to the media like "it's an open and shut case"--probably so that if he winds up losing he can whine later about how unfair the process was or how badly the tribunal screwed it up.

I hope Mars knows what he's doing but the signs so far don't inspire a ton of confidence.

Arb lover

April 10th, 2018 at 9:22 AM ^

You have a good point for cases where more than likely an arbitrator/judge/jury is going to look at case law, and judge the merits of the case based on the evidence, accounting for credibility, etc. 

The NCAA case has nothing to do with that sort of system. They are, in fact, concerned about perception, so putting it out there that the transfers have a great case likely does no harm; it puts the NCAA on notice that if they end up finding otherwise, they might have some explaining to do (even just internally to their members).