Ole Miss formally opposes Shea's transfer:
The article states that the objection was from last month.
The objection recently sent to the NCAA could impact Patterson's ongoing transfer waiver appeal as he is looking to immediately become eligible to play for Michigan in 2018. The objection is part of a response delivered to the NCAA last month, according to attorney Thomas Mars.
So it isn't new, and in fact I think if we peruse earlier threads we'll find we already discussed the objection.
why anyone cares? If Ole Miss doesn't object, aren't they essentially "pleding guilty" in their on-going case? For no other reason than appearances, they have to seem as though they are putting up a fight.
I missed that post the first time around. How the hell did Michigan misjudge Ole Miss's response?? Ole Miss saying AW HELL NO with middle fingers raised was the biggest no brainer ever.
The team felt that Ole Miss would most likely just not say much at all because they were damned if they said anything negative given the evidence. If you look back at our responses on this blog nobody here really expected them to go full throttle either. Tuesday night quarterbacking is a different story entirely.
For whatever reason we also didn't provide all the evidence that was available, at the time. I think because some of it gets into the weeds a bit and because sometimes when you provide too much to regulators, they just look at the first thing you provide, or the wrong thing you provide.
Very on brand.
April 10th, 2018 at 10:57 AM ^
April 10th, 2018 at 12:32 PM ^
No truth-handler, you! Bah! I deride your truth-handling abilities!
(Remember when the Simpsons used to be the funniest show on TV? 'Cause I bet none of the current Michigan players do. I'm old... but so is that show. :)
There has been a lot of positive news in the media on Ole Miss. News such as number one recruiting class, 4 star player going to ole miss, Paul Finebaum saying to buy ole miss stock, etc. I'm not surprised by this one bit.
What I hope to see is the truth, but I doubt it. Look to MSU who have faced ZERO NCAA repercussions and you see that maybe nothing will come of Ole Miss. But boy do I sure hope that Shea plays for Michgan next season.
Sad. To much money involved.
They're complicit.
That's a lot of cliches you have mashed together there! Very impressive. You forgot to use any domino cliche, though.
if they had bonafide leadership at the top. They have plenty of money and resources to take on cheaters if they really wanted to. But, instead, Mark The Asshat Emmert and his cronies continue to make poor decisions, set bad examples, and stick their head in the sand instead of taking on serious problems. IMO, one big mistake they've made is not going right to the top at major universities to make substantive changes. That means the university presidents.
Maybe Ole Miss has figured out how to use a cutout when acquiring hookers for their recruits.
April 10th, 2018 at 11:13 AM ^
Well, another way to look at this is by approving the transfers it allows the NCAA to levy a de facto punishment on Ole Miss, allowing 6 good players to leave the program and play elsewhere. Easy punishment to levy... if they can bring themselves to it.
Nice work, Ole Piss.
Michigan gets fucked by every possible "regulatory" orgainzation of college sports ... and they shouldn't give a shit about what they they ever say. They were caught cheating and that alone should preclude them from presenting any argument.
It won't matter though ... I would bet the Patterson is the ONLY player denied by the NCAA. It is so obvious and yet sparty just screws whoever they want with no recourse whatsoever.
Go Blue!
Either all six transfers will be eligible or zero will.
underestimate the NCAA's stupidity, arrogance, petty hatred, and ability to do something forehead-slapping baffling. We're not talking about a particularly bright bunch, here.
You DO realize that "the NCAA" includes Michigan, right?
April 10th, 2018 at 12:20 PM ^
"Patterson is one of six former Rebels seeking a transfer waiver. The appeals of Patterson's five former teammates are not related to that of the quarterback."
I don't know how that's possible, but CBS Sports wrote it.
April 10th, 2018 at 12:38 PM ^
It sounds like everyone was pretty confident Ole Miss would just be like "sure" when it came to their response and offer no resistance.
Which is just fucking stupid, but also sounds exactly like something Michigan would do. When it comes to dealing with the shady side of CFB and athletics they seem to be naive and clueless as hell.
There was no reason for Michigan to go scortched eart on the appeal application the first time around. If, as it happened, Old Miss resisted the waiver, Michigan could lunload In the absence of evidence that Michigan needed to go nuclear, going nuclear wasn't the best tactic, because it would give Old Miss no incentive to stand down for fear of things getting hot. I think Michigan handled this right.
As for others being confident, you'd have to ask them for their reasons.
I don't know. Typically bluster is a sign of weakness. A lawyer who has a good case keeps his mouth shut and wins it. A lawyer who has a shaky case insults his opponent and says shit to the media like "it's an open and shut case"--probably so that if he winds up losing he can whine later about how unfair the process was or how badly the tribunal screwed it up.
I hope Mars knows what he's doing but the signs so far don't inspire a ton of confidence.
You have a good point for cases where more than likely an arbitrator/judge/jury is going to look at case law, and judge the merits of the case based on the evidence, accounting for credibility, etc.
The NCAA case has nothing to do with that sort of system. They are, in fact, concerned about perception, so putting it out there that the transfers have a great case likely does no harm; it puts the NCAA on notice that if they end up finding otherwise, they might have some explaining to do (even just internally to their members).
April 10th, 2018 at 10:07 AM ^
Not sure if serious, but if the NCAA is planning on making this decision based on arbitrary notions of "perception" rather than evidence, I don't know how Mars could have determined that it was ever "open and shut."
Presumably, the approval of the waiver would be a formality if Old Miss did not oppose it. Now it goes to the jury, so to speak.
April 10th, 2018 at 12:40 PM ^
Did you miss the part that said NCAA.
You're welcome.
This isn't news