OT: Shooting at CMU
You can fuck all the way off. Fuck off straight to whatever hell you believe in, and keep fucking off once you get there. Take your dumb fucking lord and prophet Alex Jones with you and fuck off together.
Just whatever you do, FUCK OFF.
Cite?
The harsh reality is that some people are defective.
Wonder how many more times this has to happen before anything is actually done
Well we've got to commend the Parkland students for at least trying to do something about it. People are slowly starting to realize that posting "thoughts and prayers" on their Facebook page won't do shit to help anyone.
If we want something to change, call our Congress reps. If they're not willing to listen, then vote them out of office.
retailers are beginning to modify their own internal requirements for gun purchasing including age restrictions and enhanced background research capabilities. That is a welcome development as well.
Very true. I forgot to mention Dick's, Walmart and LL Bean.
At least someone is doing something about it.
Small gun shops and more specialized retailers are probably celebrating.
Yeah. When businesses start changing on a societal issue, that's a sign that attitudes on the ground are changing.
We are most likely advancing toward a legal compromise on this issue.
Count me among them.
My wife and I own a gun, and I've never thought there's been anything wrong with owning a handgun or single shot rifle as long as you are a responsible owner, safely lock them away when you're not using them, and respect the fact that when they're in your hand, they are deadly weapons. There is such a thing as responsible gun ownership.
But by the same token, I've never understood the resistance to stronger background checks. The NRA and many of our "friends" in Washington insist that we shouldn't punish responsible gun owners. Okay fine. If you're a responsible, upstanding member of society, you shouldn't have a problem passing an enhanced background check anyway. I don't understand the need for owning assault rifles either. Even if you claim self-defense, unless you plan on a whole army invading your house, I don't think you need an assault rifle to protect your family.
To those who say that guns are too integrated into society and we can't do anything about it...well...even if that's true, enhanced background checks are better than doing nothing.
not entirely sure the distinction is of any significance anymore. The motives behind true "school shootings" are so varied at this point that they don't even necessarily belong in the same basket anymore.
Murder vs. an act of terror I guess?
Instead of being a snarky asshole, maybe you can come up with the correct way to state it. Murder via domestic violence vs. murder via terrorism? Is that good enough for you?
These are just regular dead people, not school dead people. False alarm.
(Edit: This has become my favorite post ever. I don't even know what it means. I was mocking the post I replied to because I didn't understand the difference. Somehow, a sarcastic, gibberish post I made with no intent or logic behind it has become a lightning rod for downvotes. If this were Twitter, I'd pin this fucker.)
I like this post, too. Perfectly highlights the inanity of classifying a school shooting as such.
dude. You're not a fucking martyr.
This thread has everybody on edge.
this whole thread is getting away from me. Sorry.
No sweat
Re: Your edit - I did further explain what I see as the difference in other replies in this comment chain, if you're interested.
I took your off-hand sarcastic comment for what it was and wasn't bothered by it any. There's certainly no reason for you to be downvoted for it.
Even your post ended with kind of a "Meh, whatever that means". I thought I was agreeing with you. Oh well. MGoBlog as entertaining as ever.
Maybe you shoud read about "school shootings" (using your terms) and you will notice that many of the random acts did have specific or specific sets of targets. There is no distinction, really.
There absolutely is a difference between some sick piece of crap saying "I'm going to shoot the 4 kids who were mean to me, and then go classroom to classroom and shoot 30 more because fuck them too" and a different kind of sick piece of crap saying "I'm going to shoot my parents when they show up to my dorm to pick me up for spring break." They're not even close to being on the same level.
But what's extremely annoying is that the people here arguing over this trite matter know that there is a difference. But they get to virtue signal about how we apparently think one is better than the other because we can admit there is a difference. Good fucking lord.
When is "shooting shit with whatever gun I want is fun!" no longer going to be a valid reason to prevent reasonable governmental regulation of firearms?
By the way, heroin and cocaine are illegal in this country as well. That’s easy to get. And I by the way, when you take guns away from the good guys do you really think the bad guys won’t still get them? That’ll make it a lot easier for criminals to Rob unarmed people as often as they want.
Thanks for raising “the good guys need guns” argument. Never heard that one before. Look at data on how guns in homes are used and you’ll see a small percentage is good guys shooting bad guys. Most are used for homicides, suicides, and other accidents.
I own a bunch of guns. So, me too! But it, like the rest of those 10 Amendments, is not absolute. We can set reasonable limits.
100% correct. This will not end death and murder. It will just make it less efficient. The day a guy with a kitchen knife kills 25 high schoolers in 10 minutes, then maybe I'll change my mind...
A kitchen knife has a purpose that has nothing to do with murder. Pro-gun citizens often like to bring up auto deaths and ask why we don't ban cars, and that's because a car has a primary purpose that has nothing to do with murder.
A gun has one primary purpose, to injure/kill/destroy living beings. Without guns, we lose nothing as humans other than a convenient ability to kill quickly and from a distance. That feels like something we could live without, but what do I know?
One, I'm only disagreeing that I'd want to ban knives after an attack. Knives are necessary to cut meat, open boxes, slice material, etc. We as humans need a tool to do that. Without a knife, you're taking 4 hours to open your Amazon shipment with a wooden spoon. We need knives. That's all.
Two, I didn't say the primary purpose of guns is to kill "random innocent people". I said the purpose is to kill living things - people, animals, etc. That is what they are created and designed to do. If you disagree with that, I'd be curious to hear what you think the purpose of a gun is.
Yeah. If drunk people were walking into schools and murdering people with bottles of schnapps, I'd be fully on board. It's not a necessity.
Compare DUI laws now to those 10-20 years ago. We as a society have made a concerted effort to curtail and hopefully eliminate drunk driving deaths by introducing stricter regulations and punishments. We've made an effort because everybody agrees drunk driving is bad. So yeah, you'd be arguing in good faith and that's what we've been doing.
For some reason, we can't come to an agreement that shooting people is bad enough to warrant action.
okay i get your point - but not sure its the right comparison. DUI laws are for after the law is broken. Do we need to make it a more severe penalty for murder?