Zilla212

January 20th, 2018 at 3:02 PM ^

Correct me if I’m wrong....but this guy was the OC for the sucknuts when they won their last National championship in 15 and we are bitching about this?? Why???

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Scarlatina

January 20th, 2018 at 4:37 PM ^

Well technically, Tom Herman was the lead OC, and playcaller for that team, and Ed Warinner was the co-OC/OL coach. Warinner was a great OL coach, and supposedly decent at designing/scripting plays during preparation. It just when Warinner took over as the lead playcaller after Herman left, it became apparent that Warinner was not as good as Herman at adjusting the offense when the opposing defenses learned to adapt.

Warinner (and co-OC Tim Beck) were not creative enough to adapt the offense, or develop it further as the the season went on. It got so bad that during towards the end of the 2015-2016 season, Urban Meyer just took over playcalling duties for the last 2-3 games of the season, and for 2016-2017 Urban moved both Warinner AND Beck up to the booth together.

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LDNfan

January 20th, 2018 at 3:49 PM ^

Looks like a good move to me.

He knows a ton about the offensive philosophies of ND and OSU so you get deeper into their playbook. He's a respected OL coach..which well has been a bit of a weakness around AA. So, even if Drevno stays he's got someone to lean on but not splitting up the OLine duties like last year with Frey. 

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PrestigeWorldwide

January 20th, 2018 at 4:29 PM ^

It looks like Lawrence Marshall is playing in the East/West Shrine game. He is not in the roster online, so maybe a late addition. This may answer some of the scholarship number concerns, but add to the lack of DT concerns after missing on Friday.
I dont remember seeing anything in the board about this.

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Sten Carlson

January 20th, 2018 at 5:05 PM ^

But aren’t all you dumbledicks saying it’s the COACHING STAFF not the players, that he’s got enough on the roster to win NOW?! Which is it?!

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Don

January 20th, 2018 at 4:42 PM ^

Half the people are asserting that it's a fact that he's a good recruiter, and the other half is asserting he doesn't like recruiting and is bad at it.

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DoubleB

January 20th, 2018 at 5:39 PM ^

This thread is the exact reason Jim Mora made that famous, "You think you know, but you don't" quote a number of years back.

I don't think this is that hard. Either Warriner wanted to get out of the cult of PJ Fleck / move closer to his son and family OR Harbaugh is trying to collect a bunch of offensive coaching talent on that side of the ball. The real question is how you mesh all of this coaching talent together.

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MgerBlerg

January 20th, 2018 at 4:44 PM ^

Reading through this thread, it appears regular board members think he's a good recruiter and buckeyes think he's a bad recruiter (genuinely appreciate the input). Why the dichotomy?

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Scarlatina

January 20th, 2018 at 5:11 PM ^

Warinner could never seem to close on Ohio State’s top targets (i.e. top-50/5-star) OL recruits, but could reel in the 2nd and 3rd tier guys. However, there was thought that most coaches could bring in those lower priority targets just by being blue blood program, and that a mark of a truly elite recruiter was winning the recruiting battles for the blue-chip OL guys against other blue bloods programs. Plus, I would also have to go back and count up the number of OL recruits each year, but the last few seasons of Ed’s tenure the OL depth was a huge worry. So I think there were concerns of missing too many prospects and under-recruiting the group from a numbers standpoint. It wasn’t a huge problem that manifested since Ed always had the starters well prepared, and OSU was pretty fortunate from an OL injury standpoint (only minor OL injuries for several seasons).

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Don

January 20th, 2018 at 5:50 PM ^

Lots of 4-stars with the balance 3-stars.

I don't know enough about how each of them panned out to make an informed in-depth judgement, but OSU's overall record during that period doesn't suggest that OL was truly an issue with OSU.

Michigan fans have a good idea of what OL issues really are.

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