Maynard

December 14th, 2017 at 11:45 AM ^

I thought it was obvious he was going to ND long before this and I am glad he did. We have enough TEs though I suspect since we offered Garber's VanSumeran he would probably commit. He originally committed to Western and then to Iowa so he is likely to take the better offer here. I would prefer if we load up on interior lineman instead as it is the thing that will decide whether we are an 8-4/9-3 team next year or a 10-2/11-1.

 

Magnus

December 14th, 2017 at 11:47 AM ^

"I would prefer if we load up on interior lineman instead as it is the thing that will decide whether we are an 8-4/9-3 team next year or a 10-2/11-1."

Do you really think that loading up on freshman offensive linemen will make a huge difference in our record in 2018? For real?

EGD

December 14th, 2017 at 11:54 AM ^

I do think there are a couple guys we've gone after in recent cycles who might have contributed immediately on the OL.  Isaiah Wilson would probably be the main one.  I don't know if Petit-Frere is in that category but I suspect not as he's listed < 280 lbs.

As for the interior line though, jeez--we've already got Onwenu, Bredeson, Ruiz, and Spanellis, plus Runyan.  Hard to see much of an immediate need for interior OL. 

EGD

December 14th, 2017 at 12:47 PM ^

I'm not familiar with Georgia's OL, but I kind of assumed that they already had some decent OTs on the roster and didn't need to worry about playing Wilson this season.  But yeah, even for the 5-star players I know it's still rare for an OL to play as a true freshman (and probably even more rare for a freshman OL to play well). 

SilencedByTheMan

December 14th, 2017 at 3:12 PM ^

Michigan needs to be prepared for onwenu and bredeson to be ready to leave after next season. especially bredeson. 3 rd year starter as a true junior. good enough to start 3 years from true freshman on, should be good enough to go pro. onwenu could make that leap and with his size, and if so would be very attractive to teams. should be prepared for them not to be there in 2019 (as true seniors).

Maynard

December 14th, 2017 at 12:12 PM ^

No. Not directly, as in of course I don't expect them to be on the field. But I believe in depth and practice as well as competition so indirectly yes. FOR REAL. 

However, that is not what I meant by that post.I was purely talking depth that creates urgency of good play for those who start. But since you want to be that guy, let's talk about it. Can a true freshman be an impact player? The answer is yes. These freshman OL and DL did pretty well this year:

Andrew Thomas- Georgia

Trey Smith- Tennessee 

Mekhi Becton- Louisville

Rashawn Slater - Northwestern

Jack Anderson - Texas Tech

Corey Bethley - TCU

A.J. Epenesa - Iowa

Lamonte McDougle -  West Virgina

Jordan Scott - Oregon

 

LSU and Michigan State (who beat us remember?) both started 3 true freshman OL/DL on one side of the ball at different points this year. And on and on.

SO YEAH. FOR REAL. Freshman can make a difference. It's myth (especially here) that lineman have to take so much time to be able to develop and contribute.

 

Magnus

December 14th, 2017 at 12:43 PM ^

That's not the question. Yes, freshman offensive linemen can play. We've seen it at Michigan in the form of Ben Bredeson and Mason Cole, among others.

The question is about freshman offensive linemen making a 2- or 3-game swing in Michigan's record. Personally, I don't believe a freshman LT is going to be that much better than [insert our 2018 LT] to take our team from 8-4 to 10-2.

StellaBlue

December 14th, 2017 at 11:46 AM ^

to say with great gusto

FUCK NOTRE DAME!

I really do not know or care about the recruit.  Good luck to him.

I want to smash them come 9-1-2018.  I would not put it past those fuckers to sneak in a game before that.

war-dawg69

December 14th, 2017 at 11:50 AM ^

Who cares. Both of the guys we allready have are bigger and faster. MM is way better and were still in it for Ford.

Changing the subject, but osu getting togliaaaa or whatever his name is bad. He is there best recruit IMO. Of Course he will have to beat Ruiz. I sure hope we close on somebody this cycle. Frere is the main dude IMO. He is a flat out stud. I would take him over that fat fuck Carman who osu's whole world revolves around.

I do have a question. Whu does osu think they have a better D-line coach than us. Mattison's resume is just a little more complete if you ask me.

Magnus

December 14th, 2017 at 11:55 AM ^

Nah, Larry Johnson at OSU is a stud defensive line coach. He's the best DL coach in the country, IMO. He was the guy at Penn State when they were producing guys left and right (Michael Haines, Courtney Brown, etc.), and now they're churning them out at Ohio State.

I think Mattison is great, and he does awesome things with some lesser talented guys, but Johnson has a better resume.

True Blue Grit

December 14th, 2017 at 11:51 AM ^

With 2 TE's already in the class, plus Gentry, Wheatley, McKeon, Eubanks, and probably someone else I'm forgetting about, we'll be fine.  (Bunting I'm assuming would not be offered a 5th year, but if he is, add him).   Better to use the scholarship on a position where we need more depth.  

Losher

December 14th, 2017 at 1:10 PM ^

lorenz made specific comments on this rumor and mentioned him going to Va Tech where there are lots of connections. I dont know why he would stay when hes been a blocking TE for the last couple years and his athletic ability has never been exploited like most fans expected it to be 

GoBLUE_SemperFi

December 14th, 2017 at 11:52 AM ^

I mean, I'm not trying to disparage the kid, but why is everyone acting like this is a huge loss?  Michigan has Wheatley, Gentry, Eubanks & McKean coming back and Muhammad and Schoonmaker committed.  Is there some scouting report on this kid, that is not being represented by 247's 3-star .8797 rating (494th in the nation)?

AZBlue

December 14th, 2017 at 12:29 PM ^

He apparently was a good contrast to the other committed TEs and there are some vague rumors that TWJ is considering transferring to VT to play with his bro.

His offer list was that of a 4-Star so the services might be underrating him.

YoOoBoMoLloRoHo

December 14th, 2017 at 11:55 AM ^

Tremble piqued my interest because he appeared to be speedy H-Back that JH might use in totally new ways in the offense. Good versality with him, Muhammad & Schoonmaker. More important, though, is any roster additions at DT, WR, S and OT. Onward.

mgobaran

December 14th, 2017 at 12:24 PM ^

between 4 pretty darn good schools. I'm sure our coaches are bummed. I just don't see the reason of taking three TEs in a small class, especially when one of our two tackle commits weighs 260 lbs and has played TE exclusively for his HS his Senior year. I'm comfortable with what we have, hopefully the coaches move on from recruiting this position...

BlueChip27

December 14th, 2017 at 1:05 PM ^

Not a crootin insider so I'm curious as to where the Wheatley transfer runors are coming from...anyone reliable? I've not seen anyhting posted on boards ot Twitter.

Also on Friday....I beleive the latest CB's are coming from OSU folks so take it for what you will....

 

Michifornia

December 14th, 2017 at 2:06 PM ^

Will be fun to see how he does since we will be facing off against the Irish again.  Can't wait.  We will likely have 2-3 very good TEs at all times.

GO BLUE!!

Wolfman

December 14th, 2017 at 2:13 PM ^

with a fellow UM fan about all the TEs that Harbaugh was bringing in. He thought it was stupid and I told him it could change the way the game is played and if any coach would do it, it would be ours.'  Well we never saw that - TEs spread all over the field to force the D to make quick, probably faulty decisions in order to defend it - so I guess we have enough. 

Seeing Harbaugh only knows the game 12,000 times better than i, i guess we'll never see a heavy spread so although I like to see us get players Harbaugh and staff want because they are usually picked for more thanjust  their stats and recruiting rankings, I have to say I am not bothered and am happy for the young man, knowing he gets a good education, but feel bad for him at the same time in having to obligate himself to Kelly for four to five years. GL Tommy