November 15th, 2017 at 12:11 AM ^
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November 15th, 2017 at 12:23 AM ^
was before the rain came (and before the wind kicked up).
So it was 14-10 in good weather, and predictably, 0-0 in bad weather. It helped them because it turned a 60 minute game on the road against a better team into a 37 minute game. And if you don't know how a shorter game helps the inferior team, then I don't think anyone can help you.
November 14th, 2017 at 10:21 PM ^
levels the playing field for the underdog.
Not the transitive property.
MSU was rolled by OSU who lost to Iowa who....
November 14th, 2017 at 11:03 PM ^
BS. If you get the lead in the MSU game, you have the advantage when the rain comes. They did. We didn't.
November 14th, 2017 at 11:12 PM ^
November 15th, 2017 at 10:15 AM ^
If whoever had the lead when the heavy rain started was likely to win.... you are acknowledging that weather was a factor.
I would also agree that if we were ahead at that point, the game probably would have gone the other way.
It's amazing what we can conjecture with our hindsight :-)
December 11th, 2017 at 12:56 PM ^
November 14th, 2017 at 10:26 PM ^
Northwestern is absolutely a bad loss. They have Wisconsin's schedule but with a nice shiny 24 point loss to 4-6 Duke, coupled with an NCAA record three consecutive OT wins
November 14th, 2017 at 10:20 PM ^
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November 14th, 2017 at 9:50 PM ^
Their quality wins are Iowa, NW, and UM
November 14th, 2017 at 10:32 PM ^
3rd consecutive week they are exactly one spot behind Ohio State.
U-M is obviously a quality win for PSU. At Northwestern too, decent enough. But it does seem the committee is mostly viewing them in terms of the close road loss to OSU.
November 14th, 2017 at 9:47 PM ^
November 14th, 2017 at 9:50 PM ^
To be honest I don't really care too much about the Wisky game. It'd be nice to win, sure. But I'll take a loss if it means beating o$u.
November 14th, 2017 at 10:11 PM ^
November 14th, 2017 at 10:17 PM ^
I'd rather see a win against o$u than wisky is what I'm saying. Beating wisky really doesn't do much for us unless penn state and msu were to each lose a game and get us into the conference championship. which ironically enough would be a rematch against wisky. But a win against o$u? That would do wonders for us. Maybe not in terms of rankings but getting back on track in winning The Game on a consistent basis.
November 15th, 2017 at 9:20 AM ^
we're gonna beat Wisconsin, so I'll take that win every time
November 14th, 2017 at 9:49 PM ^
November 14th, 2017 at 9:50 PM ^
Clemson should not be #2. They lost to freakin' Syracuse. They should be at 5. Miami sould be 2, OU at 3 and Wisconsin 4 IMO. Georgia should be 6. 1 loss on the road in a tough enviroment. Auburn should be 7. No 2 loss team should be in the top 6. No 2 loss team should ever sniff the playoff.
November 14th, 2017 at 10:06 PM ^
November 15th, 2017 at 12:29 AM ^
with fewer than 2 losses? Should they just not do the playoff?
Should UCF be in the top 6 if losses are eliminators?
November 14th, 2017 at 9:56 PM ^
November 14th, 2017 at 10:04 PM ^
realistically, no one below them (save USC, which is extremely unlikely) could get in.
So you look Top 9. Bama, Auburn, Georgia will have a guaranteed minimum of 2 more losses amongst them. If its chalk, as you said, Auburn and Georgia are out, Bama in.
Clemson Miami has a loser. I imagine whoever loses that game is out. Say Clemson is in.
Oklahoma wins out. They are in.
Wisconsin would have to lose to OSU, and knowing OSU, they would probably win that BIG championship game like 49-10.
That leaves 1 loss Miami and 2 loss Notre Dame as the roadblocks. Miami would have to be above ND, right? So can OSU jump Miami?
November 15th, 2017 at 10:08 AM ^
Clemson has no defense right now due to injuries. If That same Miami team that played ND shows up, it's going to be ugly for Clemson.
November 14th, 2017 at 11:30 PM ^
Based upon chalk (I'm assuming you're talking based upon rankings) OSU would lose to Wisconsin.
November 15th, 2017 at 12:31 AM ^
unless Wisconsin beats us by a lot more than OSU does.
The ranking are based on past Ws and Ls primarily. They don't gauge quality as well as other, more predictive rankings in which OSU is well ahead of Wisconsin right now.
November 14th, 2017 at 10:01 PM ^
November 14th, 2017 at 10:57 PM ^
Miami needs to win a good road game.
November 14th, 2017 at 11:55 PM ^
but you can't control how good your opponents are. Duke started off hot and has completely fallen apart. FSU has shit the bed since Francois went down. UNC has been a tire fire this year after a couple of really nice years.
November 15th, 2017 at 12:14 AM ^
November 15th, 2017 at 12:37 AM ^
November 14th, 2017 at 10:03 PM ^
SEC champ
ACC champ
OU if they win out
Wisconsin if they win out
if OU or Wisconsin lose, a 2-loss conference champ is getting in or maybe a 1-loss Alabama or Miami that didn't win their conference
November 14th, 2017 at 10:03 PM ^
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November 14th, 2017 at 10:11 PM ^
November 14th, 2017 at 11:32 PM ^
both have really nice non-conference wins - Auburn and ND (technically they aren't in the ACC).
I don't even know what the Big Ten's best non-conference win is.
November 15th, 2017 at 12:33 AM ^
makes it.
November 15th, 2017 at 12:43 AM ^
November 14th, 2017 at 10:19 PM ^
November 14th, 2017 at 10:50 PM ^
We probably finish like 8th in this situation. In this scenario we have a loss to a potentially unrkaned 8-4 msu team and a blowout robably 15-20th ranked 3 loss psu. That would leave us with 3 wins over teams that finished with a winning record, one win against a 3 loss osu probably ranked around 15th or lower and a 2 loss wisconsin probably ranked 15-20th.
So zero top 10 wins and 3-2 against teams with a winning record. Just zero shot. If Florida was even mediocre we would be ok but without that we've got no chance.
November 14th, 2017 at 11:13 PM ^