OT: Talking Cars Tuesday - What's Next?

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As we all wait for tomorrow's UFR, here's our 2nd (and probably final) in-season TCT.

So - what's next with cars? What are you shopping for? (Good chance someone on the board has one). What are you excited to see at the auto shows in the next couple of months? What are you driving? Hate it? Love it? Real open this time, let's talk cars!

bringthewood

November 7th, 2017 at 1:29 PM ^

No problems at 80+.  I have a 4x4 base truck that is actually well equipped. It's and extended cab and while it does not have all of the comforts of a Silverado, it is nimble and not like driving a bus-  aka Silverado. 7k miles and I really like mine. $5k for a 2 year 24k miles prepaid lease - I am planning on buying at the end if the value holds.

MaizeAndBlueWahoo

November 7th, 2017 at 11:42 AM ^

Planning on paying off my Escape next spring.  Still undecided on the next step.  Do I spend a while enjoying the total lack of car payment, or trade it in right away to take advantage of a pretty good trade-in value and still have a lower car payment?  Not sure about that. 

Also not sure of what to get next.  Upgraded Escape is a possibility.  So is an MKC, used MKS (highly underrated car IMO), or maybe I go turncoat and look at a Jeep Cherokee or Compass.  Or go full exotic and look at the Alfa Giulia, which I think is just a beautiful car.  Partly this is a choice between more money in the pocket or just something nice for myself.  I have 0% financing on this Escape and am therefore spoiled and won't buy without it (or very, very close to it.)  The indecision on not even knowing what I want next will probably cause me to sit on the car for a little while after paying it off, but I don't want to do that for too long and watch the car depreciate too much.

Steve in PA

November 7th, 2017 at 11:58 AM ^

I paid off the fusion I mentioned previously early and banked the money. I will pay cash for the Passat. I will never buy another new vehicle. I cannot think of a worse investment. For the price of new car smell and status you lose 50% of the value in 3 years and pay interest on the original asset value. From now on I'm going to be the guy buying a 2 or 3 year old car and stuffing the savings into my retirement.

WestSider

November 7th, 2017 at 3:20 PM ^

my first car purchase after my first career hire. Since then, I buy only used, because the savings are so significant. I also buy reliable vehicles, like Honda, Toyota, and so forth. Wish Jeeps were more reliable, along with some other American brands that still don't match Asian car quality, generally speaking.

MaizeAndBlueWahoo

November 7th, 2017 at 5:54 PM ^

Agreed completely.... nobody really thinks of a car as an investment.  I wouldn't argue if anyone said it was a suboptimal financial decision.  So is going out to eat or racing out to buy the newest iPhone.  If I were trying to minimize my financial impact I'd buy a respectable-looking used car for about $4000 and sell it a couple years later for as close to that as I could get, lather, rinse, repeat, and basically my only transportation expense would be gas and oil changes.

What I've got now is about the closest thing to an investment you'll ever get with a car, short of a collectible.  0% financing means I was above water after a couple years of payments.  Finish it off and I'll have about a $12000 asset that I can use to buy something both nicer and cheaper (in terms of monthly payments).

I don't think it takes a lot of justification, honestly, to blow money on cars.  I'm in the thing every damn day.  I'd better like the hell out of it and I'm more than willing to spend money to ensure that.

Steve in PA

November 7th, 2017 at 6:04 PM ^

But everyone knew what I meant.

I am restoring an old Firebird Formula.  I know that it is a money pit and I will most likely not make money on it.  Working on it is also my "mental health" time.  I don't play golf, drink, or do most of the other activities that we do to relieve stress so a few hours in the garage is my time.

My next project is going to be a 1946-1954 truck onto a modern chassis.  I will most likely also lose money on that.

I just can't justify losing money on a daily driver.

sansan

November 7th, 2017 at 11:46 AM ^

Waiting for the new Navigator to launch.  Was told the new ones should hit dealer lots in December.

Love having captain chairs in the 2nd row with pass through so the kids can walk to the 3rd row if necessary.

Oh and new 911 GT3 with manual trans coming in the spring.

UPWanderer

November 7th, 2017 at 4:55 PM ^

Chevy Bolt looks pretty great. No idea why Chevy is not really promoting the vehicle. Focus EV also seems pretty solid, but again, few probably know that it exists. Hyudai Ionic EV is another good looking deal. I drive LEAF. But yeah, I dont think people know they can get a fast, 200 plus mile range EV for ~ 30k (Bolt). You don't need to change your life to get one. You can just plug in to 3 prong outlet in garage overnight and be good to go. Would highly recommend used LEAF to anyone interested in EV as you can get them for as low as 7k. 

I dumped the Dope

November 7th, 2017 at 11:47 AM ^

I have 5 cars already (4 of them have over 200k...but all of them still drive) so it might not be a go...but I am always thinking about it 8-)

Under consideration...Buick GNX if there are still any unmolested ones still left on the planet.  2000-2003 Grand Prix GTP which I had but rusted out after 225k, but still possibly my favorite car of all time.  And, the early 70s Suburban, is also under consideration.

Currently have: 09 Malibu, 09 G8, 02 Yukon, 88 Chevy R30 crew cab DRW truck, 72 Chevy Cheyenne.  Malibu is the only one which gets driven thru the winter.

UM Fan from Sydney

November 7th, 2017 at 12:31 PM ^

My next car will be a Nissan 370Z, though I don't know which year. Whatever year I buy it in, it will be the most current model. I'm hoping by the summer of 2019 I will have it.

Trebor

November 7th, 2017 at 12:31 PM ^

My wife and I currently have our 2016 Subaru Forester and 2011 Honda CR-Z. The Honda is my car, since my wife cannot drive a stick, and has no interest in even learning despite my repeated requests. The car was fine when I was driving ~50 miles a day when I lived in Pittsburgh, but now that my commute (when I drive) is like 3 miles, having a hybrid kind of sucks. The only fun thing about it is Honda makes some of the best feeling shifters this side of Porsche. So I want to get something a lot more fun to drive, but getting buy-in from my wife is going to be the hard part.

I want to replace it real bad, and I've narrowed my list down to a handful of cars. Option 1 is to keep the CR-Z and get a 2003-04 Honda S2000 as a fun car which can be enjoyed for the 4-5 months of great summer weather here in Oregon. Option 2 is to trade it in and get a 2011-14 Subaru WRX STI hatchback, which keeps the practicality of a hatch but adds a fun factor. Option 3 is to say screw it, trade it in, and get a totally impractical fun car like a Porsche Boxter/Cayman or a Lotus Exige.

Unfortunately we just put an offer in on a house yesterday, so it's unlikely I'll be exercising any of those options anytime soon.

The Mad Hatter

November 7th, 2017 at 1:13 PM ^

Get a Miata.  Any year '99 and newer is fine (they were underpowered before that).  I've had two and I'll be getting another one once kid #1 is done with college.

They're super reliable and more fun to drive than just about any other car.  The Honda is cool too, but I like the Miata interior and handling a little better.  Plus the Honda dealer was a dick to me once.

JFW

November 7th, 2017 at 5:09 PM ^

an NA one time, cruising down a very twisty road. I was having a blast jamming through the gears and throwing it into turns. After a bit I thought 'okay, have to dial it back in, I don't want a ticket' and looked down at the speedo. I was doing 55. 

Trebor

November 7th, 2017 at 1:38 PM ^

I've driven both a Miata and an S2K, and there's just something about the S2K I like more. I disagree about the handling, my experience was that the S2K is better at just about everything than the Miata, except the price obviously. Reliability isn't a massive concern - both will last a long time if you take care of them, and neither would be a car I'd be putting 10k miles on a year. I nearly pulled the trigger on a silver S2K back in August, but it was an '01 with 122k miles, and I'd rather have a lower mileage car with the extra torque from the 2.2L that the 03+ cars have.

Understand on the Honda dealer being a dick. My wife wanted to get a Fit one time, and the salesman was really shitty to us. Luckily when I got my CR-Z, the guy we dealt with was pretty awesome.

UMfan21

November 7th, 2017 at 12:35 PM ^

driving my 15 year old car until she dies. I. hoping by that time, Teslas will.be more in my price range. would love for myy next vehicle(s) to be electric.

oriental andrew

November 7th, 2017 at 12:39 PM ^

Once we finish paying off the Honda Odyssey next year, it will be my turn to start looking. I'll be replacing a 2003 Infiniti I35, which used to be my wife's car (traded in my used 2003 Passat wagon for the Odyssey). At the earliest, will be buying in 2018, but 2019 is more likely. 

I really want to go back to a station wagon - enjoyed the Passat wagon for what it was. Pickings are relatively slim, but excited at the prospect of the 2018 Buick Regal TourX AWD wagon. 

Other options include:

  • Subaru Outback - I'd probably wait for the 2019 model, which I'm hoping is completely redesigned, but they still feel too CUV-like for me now. I miss the old Legacy wagons, especially in GT trim.
  • Volvo V60 and V90 - V60 would have to wait until the 2019 MY as the 2018 is the old design/style. The V90 looks really nice with the new styling and interior, although maintenance, insurance, etc. promises to be higher than the Subie; not sure in comparison to the Buick, which is too new yet
  • No to the MB, Audi, BMW wagons
  • Golf wagon (fka Jetta wagon) is a little on the small side

 

oriental andrew

November 7th, 2017 at 2:04 PM ^

Very fair point re: V60. 

And I am intrigued by the Regal sportback, but then that opens up other potential 5 door copue options like the VW Arteon or the unfortunately-named Kia Stinger. 

If I pass on a wagon, I'll probably go sportback/hatchback/5 door coupe/whatever. I may test drive a BMW 4 or Audi A5, but probably stay somewhat down-market of those options. 

k1400

November 7th, 2017 at 12:43 PM ^

I've been driving my 2004 GMC Sierra since new... now 253000 miles later she's still runnin' good.  That and the sticker on new pickups makes me reconsider every time I start thinking about getting a new truck.  I don't think my parents paid as much for their house back in the day as a truck costs now.

BlueMan80

November 7th, 2017 at 1:00 PM ^

My 2011 BMW 335xi is like a pair of comfortable shoes.  Just feels great and I love to drive it, but...it is getting up there in miles and I recently had to replace 2 fuel injectors.  New brake pads will be coming up.  So, maintenance is starting to add up and I rarely keep cars as long as I have this one.  [Exception to the rule noted below]

As to what is next, I'm really not sure.  I think I want to stick with a new sports sedan, so I'm waiting for the next generation (G20) 3-series to roll out before I buy anything.  Hope it's worth the wait.  I've been keeping an eye on the Audi A4.  New generation came out this past year.  I've owned several Audis and have been pleased with all of them.  Guess I'll look at the new ATS, too.  My buddy at GM can always get me a good deal on GM vehicles.  Intrigued by the Alfa Romeo Guilia, but quality could be a nightmare for that car and it's too new to have a track record.  Lexus and others are more luxury than sports IMO.

Or, I could just go in a different direction.  We have a Cadillac XT5, so we don't need another SUV.  We have a 2001 BMW Z3 with low miles that's been our fun in the sun car for the past 14 years.  Still runs great and maintenance hasn't been that bad over the years.  Just not sure which way I'd go if I decided to move away from sports sedans.  Mustang GT or some other modern Detroit muscle car?

Zoltanrules

November 7th, 2017 at 6:28 PM ^

Highly recommend as a good bang for your buck car. It reminds me of the  Toyota Camry whenthey first came out (and were relatively inxpensive cars). The new Elantras are basically the same car as the Sonata but even cheaper. Leases in the metro Detroit area are very competitive. If you drive 12,000 miles a year or less it's something to consider for those on a budget or those who want a pretty fun and reliable second car while their baby sits in the garage.

Zoltanrules

November 7th, 2017 at 6:24 PM ^

Sold my 2004 330xi last year and bought a 2013 328i with low miles that had a good dealer warranty. The 2004 was just starting to have more and more things that needed attention. Buying a much newer, but used, version of the same car didn't cost that much and now I have a few years before I have to go back to shop on my dime. Those 3 series cars do feel great and are fun to drive!

I lease a Sonata for about $220/month and put the rough miles day to day on it. That is a well built basic car. Tomorrow the weather will be nice and I have about 2 hours of open freeway driving so the 328 will come out to play. Can't wait.

2Blue4You

November 7th, 2017 at 1:19 PM ^

Wife took my 09 Malibu and turned in a busted front strut.  Not being near the car to make any decisions, nursed it to the nearest garage and they are doing $1200 of work to put two new front struts and alignment (maybe some arm too, not sure).  She gives me the "you need a new car" talk.  

I've taken great care of the car, but now at 150k things are starting to happen.  I think I can get another 3 years and to 200k reasonbly and safely (kiddos).  

PB-J Time

November 7th, 2017 at 1:20 PM ^

Our family went from 3 to 4 recently which printed my switch from vw golf (hindsight should have gotten GTI) to a Mazda 6. Love it! If in market for mid size car, look here Wife wants to move up from cr-v to a 3 rom SUV. I like the Volvo, she’s getting a bit brand loyal to Honda. Doesn’t hurt that neighbors/family friends are owners of local Honda dealership

well.....

November 7th, 2017 at 1:37 PM ^

mini-van (!) though not for a couple years, unless our 2001 honda civic goes first. seems like they have improved a lot as a class and i hear positive things about several (odyssey, sienna) but curious if there were any deciding factors that pushed people towards one or another, and if they have been happy with it.

NightTrain5

November 7th, 2017 at 3:50 PM ^

We went with an Odyssey (2011 model year) because there were more latches than any other car, and we had four kids in car seats at the same time. Hondas get great reviews, but the last two we’ve had haven’t been so fantastic. I like the Odyssey much more than the Pilot, but I’ve had to sink a bunch of cash into replacing the Odyssey’s front axles. My next purchase won’t be a Honda.