OT: New Way to Lose for Lions

Submitted by Gavia immer_MI on

Tate scores go ahead TD with 0:08s to go, but is ruled down just shy of goal ine. Because it was reviewed with less than 0:10s remaining in the game, a 10s runoff is in effect, ending the game. Unbelievable. How many different ways can this team lose a game?

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NYWOLV93

September 24th, 2017 at 5:22 PM ^

Not a Lions fan, but watched the game. Thought he was clearly touched down and short of the goal line before they decided to overturn the call. The runoff rule is ridiculous, though. Lions should not be penalized for the ref's mistake. 

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A Lot of Milk

September 24th, 2017 at 5:52 PM ^

My personal favorite way they lost was when they challenged something under two minutes (when challenges occur automatically), and the rule is apparently that if you do that then the play doesn't get challenged and you get penalized. How fucking petty and random is that??

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Larry Appleton

September 24th, 2017 at 6:04 PM ^

That was actually in the 3rd quarter against the Texans on Thanksgiving.

Texans RB gets tackled, but not called down, at their own 30. No whistle, so he gets up and runs 70 yards to the endzone while everyone else thinks the play is over. TD called. Schwartz throws the challenge flag, but that was the first year in which scoring plays were reviewed automatically, and challenging an auto-review play meant an Unsportsmanlike Conduct penalty PLUS being unable to get the benefit of the replay.

Result: the Lions were penalized 85 yards (15 yards for the UC penalty plus the 70 that shouldn't have counted) PLUS seven points! WHAT PENALTY IS WORTH THAT???

It was a rule so asinine that the league literally immediately stopped enforcing it. The Packers did the exact same thing a few weeks later, but only got the 15-yard penalty.

F*** the NFL.

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Rodriguesqe

September 24th, 2017 at 6:01 PM ^

I hate hate hate instant replay. Let the humans do their best. All these frame by frames, super zooms, 20 page definitions of what a catch is. Its terrible. Most stuff is inherintly too close to call, at looking at a frame 1/60th of a second is the opposite of fun. No one feels good about how this game ended. Review did not save the day.

Also, indisputable has 2 problems. 1) It evidentally means different things to different people. 2) If a ref didn't see the play and guessed, we are now (sometimes) treating a complete guess as if it has meaning.

I would like to see this change: refs get to (and should) veto all reviews where they saw the play. The refs are professionals, this is their job. If they saw it, then go with that. No replay allowed or necessary. If they didn't see it, then challenges are allowed, but no longer should the review require indisputable evidence. Now the call belongs to the replay judge.

This would mean less reviews, and get rid of the absurd 'indisputable' standard. It wouldn't be perfect because people would be pissed that their challenge got vetoed, or that replay in HD at 1/60th of a second suggests maybe the call that wasn't reviewed was wrong, but I just want to watch a game without 50 reviews that don't make me think the game is being called any more fairly.

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MichiganStan

September 24th, 2017 at 6:31 PM ^

Theres pictures all over twitter and reddit showing there was 11 SECONDS left when Tate went down.

That 10 second runoff shouldve left 1 second on the clock for one more play

Oh and lets not even talk about the BULLSHIT phantom OPI on Jones that set us back 15 yards on that drive

The refs find a way to fuck the lions good and hard once every year. This was that game

 

 

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RJWolvie

September 24th, 2017 at 7:44 PM ^

I've watched it many times and there's no way to tell whether that ball had crossed the plane when knee touched with both parts of that being subjective & it seeming a tie. That is inconclusive & the definition of "the call stands". Just unbelievable. The team can't even catch a break when it's finally, after 50-60 years starting to earn one or two. Ridiculous

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Cruzcontrol75

September 24th, 2017 at 9:53 PM ^

Defensive Contact was made prior to the ball coming into his hands. It's very debatable whether he was still in contact when, get this, the process of catching the ball was complete? And as the ball comes into his hands his knees bounce up off the ground. And the next time they or his forearm lands the ball is clearly across the plane. The lunacy of the whole thing is that a WR must do X amount of things in or out of bounds for a pass to be completed as they fall to the ground. But the millisecond a defender makes contact when the ball touches a receivers hands on the ground then the play is dead even if the ball is not secured? The Megatron rule is stupid and wrong.

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BlueInWisconsin

September 24th, 2017 at 8:23 PM ^

These run off rules at the end of games are so stupid. Why have a rule that ends an exciting game on a technicality? Why have different rules that apply at different times during the game? It's beyond stupid. You don't want fake injuries and intentional penalties at the end of the game to substitute for timeouts? There is already a rule for that. It's called delay of game.

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Cruzcontrol75

September 24th, 2017 at 9:44 PM ^

The point at which his knee was down was at 0:11. It ticked down to 0:08 when he was 2 yds into the end zone and standing up. The league office will issue a statement tomorrow saying that the officials screwed up by not putting the clock back up to the moment his knee was down. Just add it to the list of too bad so sad: Megatron no catch no TD Dallas PI pick up the flag A-A-Ron Rodgers face mask prior to Hail Mary Seattle Batted ball through end zone

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Lampuki22

September 24th, 2017 at 9:52 PM ^

On clock for 2nd half . Same situation officials review spot for first down given then reverse call. No runoff. Clock winds only on teams being lined up.

What's the difference?

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uminks

September 25th, 2017 at 2:59 AM ^

if the Falcons made the same type of last second play the refs would have ruled indisputable evidence and would say the call the field stands. Because it is the lions, the refs stole the game. Lions never have or never will get fair calls from the refs. They 're one of the doormat teams in the NFL.

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mgobaran

September 25th, 2017 at 9:24 AM ^

It is a rule. Whatever. The problem with me is that they said he was down short of the goaline. There is a screenshot out there with the ball in his midsection, an Atlanta fan hand on him and his knee down, but that was a microsecond after the ball arrives. When exactly is the process of the catch completed? There is no evidence showing he has complete control from a screen shot. And without indisputible video evidense the call cannot be overturned. 

 

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