OSU's backup QB out indefinitely with injury
Looks like OSU's no 2 quarterback is out indefinitely with a broken bone in his hand. He's a RS sophomore, formerly a 4* recruit.
Best of luck to him on his recovery. RS Freshman Dwayne Haskins will try to fill in the backup role.
http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/20431985/ohio-state-bac…
https://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio-state-football/2017/08/84443/ohio-s…
August 23rd, 2017 at 10:31 AM ^
Cause God help OSU if they're reduced to playing their 3rd string QB right?
August 23rd, 2017 at 10:33 AM ^
In the same way for that team, I might swear off football until the gods can quit drinking and go to bed.
August 23rd, 2017 at 11:03 AM ^
the osu friend I have said most of the fanbase though Haskins was better and was going to be the backup anyways. They even have some of the same thoughts re Haskins that people at Michigan have of Peters where they think he has a hgher ceileing and prefer him over JT Barrett so I don't think this is a big loss for them.
August 23rd, 2017 at 11:11 AM ^
Why any sane OSU fan would want someone other than JT starting is beyond my comprehension. The guy has won a lot of games. He is also a senior with much experience. That is extremely difficult to replace.
August 23rd, 2017 at 11:16 AM ^
An embarrassment of riches will do that to a spoiled fanbase like the Buckeyes. Also, aren't backups supposed to only be popular on losing teams?
August 23rd, 2017 at 12:27 PM ^
You haven't heard? Most Buckeye fans think they are a losing team because they only have one national championship and one big ten title. Come on Urban, Nick Saban has 6 national titles and Jim Tressel had aton of big ten titles! You better get your stuff together man!
August 23rd, 2017 at 2:39 PM ^
August 23rd, 2017 at 11:21 AM ^
"sane OSU fan"
Asked and answered, your honor.
August 23rd, 2017 at 12:37 PM ^
Sustained.
August 23rd, 2017 at 12:53 PM ^
"sane OSU fan" Facts not in evidence.
August 23rd, 2017 at 11:24 AM ^
creative playcalling and the zone read threat, he cannot complete a pass more than 20 yards downfield that isn't Trace McSorley special™.
August 23rd, 2017 at 12:43 PM ^
and yet he still has won a shit ton of games. Look, I hate OSU and Meyer, but Meyer is a brilliant coach. He knows JT is limited with what he can do, but develops a game plan around his skills and it works.
August 23rd, 2017 at 3:41 PM ^
but he has also been to blame for probably every single one of their recent losses.
August 23rd, 2017 at 11:37 AM ^
Becase Haskins has a big arm and after the michigan, psu, and clemson games last year they want to see a guy who can complete a pass more than 10 yards downfield leading the offense. It's the same reason people don't like Speight. They don't give him credit for the easy wins, point to poor performance against elite defenses (and psu) in losses and see him as the reason their offense didn't perform.
The backup QB is always the most popular guy on every team that isn't winning a national championship. If bama loses to FSU I gaurantee you'll see people calling for Tua to start over Hurts.
August 23rd, 2017 at 2:35 PM ^
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August 23rd, 2017 at 11:58 AM ^
for just about every fan base, their favorite player is the back up QB. Unless the starting QB is in contention for 1st team All-American most fan bases think the QB is holding the team back.
August 23rd, 2017 at 12:24 PM ^
JT is for sure a quality player more than capable of managing the game and making a few plays, particularly with his feet. However, he is not a guy that strikes fear in defenses IMO. I've never seen him do the sort of things his predecessors did that made them unstopable like Pryor or a Troy Smith. He's a more reliable thrower than Braxton was, but less dynamic with his feet.
With a strong d-line on our side, I'm not too worried he'll beat us with his arm and our d-line will be good enough to prevent him from beating us with his feet. Guys like Troy Smith made great throws in tight coverage that JT can't and Pryor made great plays with his feet that JT can't. I think good defenses can limit his offense so long as they don't have a dynamic back like Elliot, which they don't any longer. I'm sure they'll have another Samuels-like guy, but that won't be enough to sustain drives against good defenses IMO.
August 23rd, 2017 at 7:20 PM ^
I so welcome a osu QB that is not mobile. Also their third string Qb won that year because they had a great defense and o-line and Ezikiel E smoke em pole.
August 23rd, 2017 at 8:47 PM ^
August 24th, 2017 at 7:32 AM ^
August 23rd, 2017 at 1:10 PM ^
that every time a conversation is had with an OSU fan about something that could potentially be a negative for their program there response is always "well the backup to the backup was actually better" or "well we weren't really puruing that 4* that hard" or "that 3rd year starter was on the verge of getting his job taken away by a true freshman anyways." At least this is my experience with them. I guess when you have had such a long string of good luck you just forget what it feels like to have bad luck.
Here's to hoping this luck changes this November against us. GO BLUE!
August 23rd, 2017 at 1:39 PM ^
I mean, it usually works out. I wouldn't call it luck.
August 23rd, 2017 at 1:44 PM ^
Thank you for making my point Buckeye fan.
August 23rd, 2017 at 1:59 PM ^
What do you want me to say? OSU has been consistently replacing good players with other good players and winning games for like 80 straight years. That doesn't sound like luck to me?
August 23rd, 2017 at 2:23 PM ^
Luck (good or bad) is more a perception than anything else, so I am pretty sure I am not going to change any "perspective" you have on this, but let me just ask you a few questions. Would losing your 1st and 2nd string QBs and then having your 3rd string QB lead you to a National Championship (now knowing he is more than likely a bust in the NFL) constitute as having some good luck on your side? Would losing an elite coach in Tressel, having your co-defensive coordinator take over for an entire year and then this all happen a year after another elite coach in Meyer just happens to step away from Florida constitute as having some good luck on your side? Does being the only team in 3 years to not win your conference nor even make your conference championship but still make the playoffs constitute a little luck on your side? If you want me to go on, I would be glad to. My original point is that I honestly believe Buckeye fans have been immune to a string of bad luck for several years now that when something comes up that could be a bad thing, their response is always that the next man up is actually better or they didn't really want that recruit anyways. I realize all programs act like this to an extant, but this is my experience with all Buckeye fans. Your first response to my comment defined my experience perfectly with all Buckeye fans.
August 23rd, 2017 at 3:26 PM ^
August 23rd, 2017 at 3:35 PM ^
You had me until "well earned reputation". The apologism for the PSU loss (on the field, you may recall) where they apparently "developed talent at an elite level" enough to block not one, but two kicks in the fourth quarter for ten points is pathetic.
I guess "on field" results matter when tOSU beat Michigan but not when tOSU lost to the eventual B1G Champion.
Thanks man, I needed a good laugh today. Solid work.
Honestly, I actually laughed out loud (as opposed to just typing LOL).
August 23rd, 2017 at 3:56 PM ^
close wins and close losses are regarded differently. He didn't mention that his squad was lucky to beat Michigan...lucky that the refs called an absurdly low number of penalties against a sieve offensive line facing the best defens in the nation, with 11 NFL players on it. Luck that JT was called for a first down..when it isn't as obvious as Buckeye fans would have you think. But their lack of preparation against PSU was a fluke. It wasn't a fluke...offense was subpar and stagnant, and unable to punch it in, Meyer got conservative as he occasionally does in big games, and Penn State put their starters on special teams because they noticed a lack of effort from the special teams "reserves" and freshmen who play ST for Ohio State.
August 23rd, 2017 at 4:38 PM ^
First of all, yes, OSU's national reputation is well earned. And it's higher than any program's right now, save Alabama. Going into last year's playoff (which is the context of my comment), they had lost 5 games in 6 years with a national championship and an undefeated season included in the run. If you don't think those accomplishments were well earned or played a large part in OSU getting picked for the 2016 CFP over PSU (and OU), idk what to tell you. Clearly OSU's national benefit of the doubt under Urban mattered then, and is/was not rooted in luck. Losing to Clemson 31-0 hurts that benefit of the doubt going forward, of course, but remember, the context of my statement was pre-Clemson.
Second, shockingly, I'm not the only person who thinks 2016 PSU's win over OSU was a fluke, or that they were an inferior team to 2016 OSU. If everyone else thought PSU was better than OSU they would have made the playoff over OSU. But no one outside of HV thought that, in large part because we all watched PSU lose twice, get clobbered by a Michigan team OSU beat, and saw PSU get outgained by OSU 2-to-1 at home and win the game on a blocked FG ran back for a TD. I don't need to apologize for the PSU loss, it was 100% irrelevant to the outcome of OSU's season. They could beat OSU every year for the next 100 as long as we go to the playoff over them still, and I don't care at all.
Third, are you really arguing OSU doesn't develop talent at an elite level? Please tell me you are arguing that.
I'm glad you got a good chuckle while reminding yourself of all the times and reasons OSU has been better than Michigan lately. I'm laughing too, if it makes you feel better. You'd think after all these years you'd give up your trademark condescension when you reply to me, but you continue to plug along and get owned anyway.
August 23rd, 2017 at 9:57 PM ^
August 24th, 2017 at 12:47 AM ^
They were lucky to beat Michigan last year. Guy I replied to initially didn't bring that up, so I didn't address it.
August 25th, 2017 at 11:57 AM ^
My bad.
August 24th, 2017 at 1:12 AM ^
Jon, what is this bullshit you continue to sell to yourself?
I mean, you didn't even acknowlege the Penn State loss (on the field, right?). To quote you: "it was 100% irrelevant to the outcome of OSU's season". So, to summarize, a) it was a fluke and b) it basically didn't matter.
On field results vs. Ohio slappy narrative. Damn kid, you destroy with your apologism.
I don't laugh out of condescenion Jon, I laugh because you not only run tOSU logic you wholeheartedly believe the truth of that narrative.
I will always laugh at that.
Well, that and the "national benefit of the doubt" on 4th and 1/Ohio refs and 31-0.
August 24th, 2017 at 1:45 AM ^
August 23rd, 2017 at 8:49 PM ^
August 23rd, 2017 at 7:25 PM ^
No it is not luck, but when the officiating favors you, close games will go your way more often than not.
August 23rd, 2017 at 2:10 PM ^
I mean when is the last time they've been wrong about that? I guess their receivers for the last couple of years have kind of sucked but they've been to the playoffs two out of three years with a natty despite constantly replacing large quantities of players. Its incredibly annoying but its also been true the entire time Meyer has been their coach.
August 23rd, 2017 at 10:38 AM ^
Ugh. You're right, and, ugh.
August 23rd, 2017 at 10:28 AM ^
I thought Haskins was the backup. I hadn't heard of Joe Burrow before this.
August 23rd, 2017 at 10:41 AM ^
I didn't think they had declared a back-up yet. In fact on that Notorious BIG podcast that someone posted a week or so ago (and again thumbs up to that person, was a great listen), they OSU guys said Meyer wouldn't declare a 2nd string because he doesn't want the other guy to transfer.
They both were throwing darts in the spring game. Very small sample, too small to base conclusions, but both looked like much more accurate passers than Barrett.
August 23rd, 2017 at 11:06 AM ^
Insiders have been saying that Burrow had been cemented in as the backup. Harbaugh tried to flip him to the good guys when he first arrived here. Sounds like whoever lost out on backup planned to transfer, so if that's Burrow due to injury, then I would expect him to take his talents down to Athens, OH.
August 23rd, 2017 at 10:29 AM ^
So does that mean that Tate "ass my dude" Martell is the 3rd string quarterback that will lead them to a natty?
August 23rd, 2017 at 11:03 AM ^
It would make him the 4th string QB orginally, right?
August 23rd, 2017 at 11:08 AM ^
Funny. But I don't understand why everyone is now calling Martell the 3rd string. Following what happened with Cardale Jones, Dwayne Haskins would still be the #3 QB. JT - 1; Burrow - 2; Haskins - 3. Burrow getting injured moves Haskins to 2, just like Miller getting injured moved Jones to 2.
August 23rd, 2017 at 11:16 AM ^
He is now second by default, but still third to the coaches. That's why.
August 23rd, 2017 at 12:09 PM ^