GOT season 7 episode 6
Well, here we have the penultimate episode of the penultimate season. If we follow the formula of the first 6 seasons wherein the second to last episode of each season provides the most dramatic twist leaving the final episode for exposition, then I think we can expect one hell of an episode tonight.
What are you looking for? And please refrain from commenting if you already have seen the link.
I expect a couple of people to die north of the wall, probably Jorah and Tormund (I will cry). I also expect someone to die in Kingslanding (probably Bronn as a punishment for last week). I am hoping we see Benjen and/or a dragon with Dany arriving to save the day. I am also hoping we see a surprise reveal from Sam or Bran. The only thing I don't want to see if Jamie or Jon die...
I would like to see Arya stab littlefinger but I don't think that is in the cards yet.
kick back and enjoy!
jdon
Edit: I wrote episode 7 the first time.
August 21st, 2017 at 3:24 PM ^
Similar to the polar bear? Hence that scene ... besides providing the death blow to Thoros it set the stage for what the dragon is going to become.
August 21st, 2017 at 6:22 PM ^
I think the term is "wight," not "sight."
August 21st, 2017 at 6:24 PM ^
August 21st, 2017 at 12:41 PM ^
I read that theory as well, even though I didn't quite agree with it personally, it was a good argument. Bran's warging is something I didn't think of, but I'm sure he can stillw warg into the ice dragon, perhaps. Unless he can't warg into dead/undead.
August 20th, 2017 at 10:29 PM ^
shit like that isn't cool man.
jdon
August 20th, 2017 at 11:22 PM ^
I didnt open this thread before the show because of dicks like you.
"Cunt" - The Hound
August 21st, 2017 at 1:45 PM ^
"dicks"?
August 21st, 2017 at 10:22 AM ^
I really wish I had mod powers. I'd ban your ass, right now. This is after I have watched it, so you didn't spoil anything for me, but you're the type of asshole who just enjoys pissing people off. You're the worst kind of person. Die in a fire.
August 21st, 2017 at 11:09 AM ^
August 20th, 2017 at 8:20 PM ^
When Arya kills Littlefinger I'm betting she wears her Mothers (or Sisters') face and uses the dagger Brann gave her.... and it will happen next episode. They have to tie up most of these story arcs and concentrate on the big battle that everyone is central to.
August 21st, 2017 at 12:57 AM ^
Thought the faceless men had to use someone's face who was dead. And why are the faceless men allowing a trainee gone rogue to just cruise around Westeros?
August 21st, 2017 at 1:06 AM ^
is what the showrunners set up. When the waif stabbed her and sent her into the river, she would have gone back and told them Arya was dead, I assume. And then I guess we are to assume no one knew that it was Arya that came back to kill the waif.
August 21st, 2017 at 1:34 AM ^
There's a theory that Ned Stark is still alive because his place was taken by a FM prisoner before execution. That theory shouldn't get any play if the person has to be dead before his "face" can be used.
Here's the first entry that comes up on google: http://www.esquire.com/entertainment/tv/news/a56104/ned-stark-alive-gam…
"According to the theory, Jaqen H'ghar of the Faceless Men and Ned Stark were being held prisoner in the Red Keep at the same time."
August 20th, 2017 at 8:59 PM ^
Won't post any spoilers but I watched early after seeing a spoiler on facebook and this ep jumped the shark for me and GoT. It is a different show that is still fun to watch but I feel like it is now the fantasy equivalent of a Stargate level show.
August 20th, 2017 at 9:03 PM ^
What did you expect? There are 7 episodes left after this one, they need to wrap this shit up. The time for cool scheming and hidden plots is over.
August 20th, 2017 at 9:05 PM ^
Better. I expected better. Big Ooo and Ahhh moments are now all theyre interested in.
August 21st, 2017 at 1:18 AM ^
and as you said, it is still entertaining. It's just now a TV Show, when it used to be an incredibly epic story.
If I didn't read the books, I wouldn't care at all because this is still incredible and a top 3 show of all time. But man, there is a level of disappointment that the big storylines are going to be spoiled/wasted on a mere TV Show.
August 21st, 2017 at 2:22 AM ^
Man I could hug you. But i simply agree 100% with every single thing you just said.
August 21st, 2017 at 8:30 AM ^
Of course that is what's going on. Those "oooo aaaahhh" as you described were rare prior to season six, which I get. You can't have many of those types of moments because making them rare is what makes people go "ooo aaahhh." Now that the show is almost done, there will be many of them. The show has been building to these epic battles. We've been awaiting this. As someone else said, there is no time for detailed plotting. The big battle is about to start and then it's done.
August 21st, 2017 at 10:18 AM ^
Ummmm....there could have been if this season had contained 10 episodes like every other season before it.
August 21st, 2017 at 11:28 AM ^
Yeah, very disappointed in the short season, which forces the horrible pacing. Then we have a near 2-yr wait for the final short season. Fuck you, HBO...
August 21st, 2017 at 1:51 PM ^
And the excuse they give about actors needing to move on is completely ridiculous bullshit. It is taking them the same amount of time to film shortened seasons, and then an extended delay between them? It's fucking asinine, but people just lap it up and ask for more.
People are dumb.
August 21st, 2017 at 10:05 AM ^
There's only so much scheming and backstabbing they can still fit into the story with seven episides left in the entire series. All of the drama, witty dialogue, secret back-alley convos, back-stabbing, and deceit that took place in the early seasons has led to what's coming in these final episodes. You had to know that this show was leading to a final war one way or another.
Also, with so much left that still needs to be wrapped up, it makes sense that in every new episode things seem to be happening at warp speed. Personally, I just embrace the ridiculousness of the show's premise, ask myself if I'm being entertained (which I am at a considerably high level), and go with it from there. None of it has to make sense. There have been fire-breathing dragons, frozen walking dead men and witches giving birth to demon ghosts for several seasons running. I'm not about to question to show's logic now when crazy shit has been happening essentially since the end of the first season.
August 21st, 2017 at 1:52 PM ^
But why does it only have seven episodes left? Because D/D decided that was the way to go. It does not make sense, in any way. They're copping out, because they know damn well they don't have the chops to actually write something that will compare to the first four seasons. So we get this.
Which came first, chicken, or the egg?
August 20th, 2017 at 9:22 PM ^
August 21st, 2017 at 1:26 PM ^
instead of 7. The first 4 episodes were paced ok ... King's Landing is not that far from Dragonstone, actually. Casterly Rock and Highgarden are all relatively close to each other as well (in typical GoT S1-S6 pacing). People complained about how Euron teleported to Yara's fleet so fast but all he really needed to do was emerge from Blackwater Bay and it's an easy intercept ... Yara and Theon were taking Ellia to Dorne.
Episode 5 should have been stretched over 2 episodes to spend more time on Tyrion and Jaime's reunion (after Tyrion watching Jaime almost die), Sam finding out about his father and brother before leaving Oldtown (does he go home or to help Jon?), do a couple scenes that establish Jorah en route to Dragonstone and Beric/Hound/Thoros confronting the Wildings.
Then, have the new "episode 6" cliffhanger on the polar bear attack, and stretch out this week's battle to place everyone — Gendry, the ravens, Dany — in places where it seems like less tele-portation was required.
August 20th, 2017 at 9:49 PM ^
I'm in the boat with Nerv about how this episode was too much for me, but also agree with you HAIL-YEA, that they have to wrap this up. Yes they could easily go to 10 season having the travel diolog that made the first 6 seasons great, but salaries and commitment are hard to keep that long, especially with many of these actors on a career high IRT spotlight moment.
I enjoyed the slow pace, the build up, the 2-3 episodes where character X travels to playce Y and all the interesting story plots built in that travel. Its still a good show, but without Mr Martin's books helping with the writing of filler its hard to make a script in a year with all that detail.
IMO the plot armour, fast travel, quick handing out big story events that is occuring now just feels rushed and well... feels like regular television.
August 20th, 2017 at 10:06 PM ^
guys are all right, I don't think it can be argued otherwise. When the producers took on the show, they thought TWOW would be out by now and maybe A dream of spring would be out or close to it. They did the best they could with what they have, and they are ready to move on. It is absolutely a different show now and I just don't think there is anyway around it. 7 episodes left, it's basically only long finale to me. I still think its pretty good though I wish things were different. just my opinion though
August 20th, 2017 at 11:59 PM ^
August 21st, 2017 at 8:57 AM ^
if he truly has writer's block as has been rumored. I'm sure he would like nothing more than to finish the series and get everyone off his back, but he's held hostage to his block...
August 21st, 2017 at 11:56 AM ^
I don't quite hold with that. I think this is down to his process and a few weaknesses with it. He's a TV writer and so he's used to creating a premise and a solid starting point with a view toward an endgame, but the middle points are often filled with a lot of "yadda yadda yadda." On top of that he doesn't like outlines as he feels they interfere with the creative process and that is fine, but what that means is he doesn't have a touchpoint when he gets lost. Along with a sudden inability to let anything happen "off-screen" and you get a mess that, in my opinion, could have been solved with a little more discipline. That has, however, never been George's bag.
All of this is fine, it's his series and it's his process, I get it. It doesn't mean that I don't get to be a little disappointed that book series I started twenty years ago isn't finished yet, and that he let the story spiral out of control.
The TV series in this fashion acts as a corrective, it's almost like if someone looked at Lost and edited it for clarity. Storylines that were clearly started with an intriguing early scene and then devolved into incoherence were looked at with a more discerning eye and a bit of hindsight as to what worked and what didn't(like Lady Stoneheart, an amazing and cinematic scene at the end of book three that didn't seem to have much of a follow-on utility). The show cast those to the side and focused on getting to the end game, which I will admit is all I am really interested in after twenty years of waiting. This isn't to say the show deosn't have problems, but I don;t mind getting to the end after all of the setup.
August 21st, 2017 at 2:31 PM ^
I have no faith whatsoever in the writers to do the end game right. I've been actually using Lost as an example of what I think is ultimately going to happen. Their is just too much to wrap up in the episodes they have left so they are forcing some things and are going to completely abandon others.
At this point its entirely possible the showrunners end game has nothing to do with what GRRM's is. Sure he gave them notes and a general end game feel of his plan but that was over 6 years ago so who knows how much he has changed it or they have edited it.
It just seems like now the obvious happens. There is no more consequences for poor decisions. Last second eye-rolling cliche life saving events are happening every episode, multiple times. I don't think there was a single character saved from death in the last second in the entire first 4 seasons. In episode 6 it happened about 7 times. Im pretty much expecting a cut and dry heroes ultimately triumph rosey ending.
August 21st, 2017 at 2:23 AM ^
The pace of the show isn't necessarily the problem.
1) We had a lot of dialogue amongst the Magnificent Seven while they walking. Most of it served no purpose other than to set up suspenseful moments later in the show, like the convo between the Hound and Tormund. I loved it, it was hilarious, but it only served to further the Brienne thing and get you more tense when they made it look like Tormund wasn't going to make it.
That's classic screenwriting because it brings you through the emotions of humor, attachment, fear, suspense and then elation in a short period of time but none of it served to further the main story. Unless Tormund ends up being the prince who was promised....and he does have red hair!
That goes for the Ed Shereen scene, which was apparently supposed to make us feel bad for the Lannister Army when they were getting torched, I guess, but it wasn't effective or necessary. It was a surprise gift from the DBs to Maisie. Nothing more. There have been enough superfluous scenes this season for the "they-need-to-move-things-along" excuse to not really work.
2) They aren't just fast forwarding through mundane stuff to get to the important stuff. That would be understandable. But we were just asked to believe that Gendry ran however many miles through the snow, a raven flew to Dragonstone, and Dany flew the dragons back north of the wall, all in, what, a few hours? 24 tops? As long as the fast-forwarding made sense in context, there would be fewer complaints, but it's clear the story was written to get those spectacle scenes rather than telling a more coherent narrative.
August 20th, 2017 at 10:19 PM ^
I am actually okay with this. The books can give me the nuance and the show can give me the flash.
August 21st, 2017 at 12:14 PM ^
It did more than that. It WIGHTED THE DRAGON!
Who knew that Gendry was a world class marathoner?
The ice ice baby dragon comment didn't ruin much for me. I took it to mean that the Night King had his own ice dragons. Growing up a nerd, I had a copy of the D&D Dungeon Masters' Monster Manual. There were all sorts of dragons listed there: fire, ice, rock, steam, white, purple, etc. I wish the dragons could speak, or at least Danyerys could teach them a little high Valyrian other than just "Dracarys!" Smaug was a bad-ass. I liked his back and forth with Bilbo.
Regarding the writing, it seems like they are running out of ideas. So our team of noble warriors is trapped with no hope for survival, only to be rescued by a dragon. Been there, done that. Or our hero falls in the water, fully clothed, sure to drown, but no, he's able to surface. Wasn't that just last week's episode?
August 21st, 2017 at 1:45 PM ^
Speaking of D&D, it seems to be have gained a lot of mainstream acceptance over the past few years. Perhaps popular fantasy movies and shows like LOTR and GOT have something to do with this? Who knows, but it seems like more and more people I know are getting involved with it.
August 20th, 2017 at 9:58 PM ^
"She looks at you like she wants to cut your liver out."
"Oh, so you do know her."
August 20th, 2017 at 10:07 PM ^
August 20th, 2017 at 10:22 PM ^
I will not be reading any of these GoT threads in the future.
August 20th, 2017 at 10:28 PM ^
Captain crunch really fucked things up...
It's a shame really.
happened last year with someone posting about Tommen taking a kings landing...
August 20th, 2017 at 11:51 PM ^
August 21st, 2017 at 12:20 AM ^
Check the time of CC's post--he was putting up a spoiler based on a leak, not reacting to the show in real time.
August 21st, 2017 at 3:24 PM ^
August 21st, 2017 at 12:21 AM ^
No, some people looked at the leaks and posted spoilers, nothing real time about it.
August 21st, 2017 at 10:26 AM ^
That is not what happened, and it is not "fine".
August 21st, 2017 at 11:38 AM ^
If you come in here after 9PM - show start time - you should expect real time spoilers. But CC's spoiler, dealing with the end of the show, was up at 8:10PM. Fuck him. And fuck you for not noticing that little detail before coming to his defense...
August 21st, 2017 at 12:19 AM ^
Well, it wasn't too hard to guess that Daenerys would fly north, a dragon would die and get raised. But Crunch should be soaked in skim milk, turned to mush and washed down the disposal.
August 20th, 2017 at 10:23 PM ^
I really really wanted Dany to piss off the wall.
August 20th, 2017 at 10:33 PM ^