GOT season 7 episode 6

Submitted by jdon on

Well, here we have the penultimate episode of the penultimate season.  If we follow the formula of the first 6 seasons wherein the second to last episode of each season provides the most dramatic twist leaving the final episode for exposition, then I think we can expect one hell of an episode tonight.

What are you looking for?  And please refrain from commenting if you already have seen the link.

 

I expect a couple of people to die north of the wall, probably Jorah and Tormund (I will cry).  I also expect someone to die in Kingslanding (probably Bronn as a punishment for last week).  I am hoping we see Benjen and/or a dragon with Dany arriving to save the day.  I am also hoping we see a surprise reveal from Sam or Bran.   The only thing I don't want to see if Jamie or Jon die...

I would like to see Arya stab littlefinger but I don't think that is in the cards yet.

kick back and enjoy!

jdon

 

Edit: I wrote episode 7 the first time.  

NowTameInThe603

August 20th, 2017 at 11:18 PM ^

Just wanna say F the guy last week posting shit like it was his predictions when he read the leaked scripts. DBAG

It fun to talk about theories and ya you can predict things that will happen but not EVERYTHING. Dick

OneBadMutha

August 21st, 2017 at 1:04 AM ^

Really hope the writers take the feedback and tweak their pacing for the final season. That was a lot of budget to compliment some crappy story telling.

Solecismic

August 21st, 2017 at 7:18 AM ^

Did Jon bend the proverbial knee (or whatever he bent) because this episode proved beyond any doubt that his ideas are just awful? Strange story construction there. Again with the Westeros teleporting system (complete with all the red-shirts in Jon's company meeting their ends). I'm only surprised that Euron's fleet didn't make it into the ice moat as well. Or perhaps Sam and Gilly could have shown up with their horse-and-cart. Given that the white-walkers are just a few miles from the wall now and we still have a summit in King's Landing to get through, how does this all work? Great stuff from Tormund, but it all started to feel a little Breakfast Clubby after a while. So many poignant vignettes. I'm enjoying the Arya/Sansa tension. Their mutual distrust as Littlefinger gradually gains control seems truer to the story than anything else we've seen in recent episodes.

ScooterTooter

August 21st, 2017 at 8:04 AM ^

Except the Sansa/Arya tension requires them both to be idiots. 

Arya is supposed to be a cunning assassin who knows when people lie. Unless this is an act (which I doubt given the shoddy writing ever since the show has outpaced the books), her treating Sansa like this makes zero sense. 

And then, why on earth would Sansa send her #1 ace to King's Landing while this was going on? Its incredibly forced. 

 

UM Fan from Sydney

August 21st, 2017 at 8:42 AM ^

I believe Arya is just faking it. Maybe somehow she found a way to get Sansa's face (to get an easier chance to kill Baelish, although I feel like she can easily kill him in his sleep since she can pick locks, but perhaps she has another plan) without her dying. I don't know. We will see.

nerv

August 21st, 2017 at 2:40 PM ^

Now Bran will save the day in this seasons finale. He will find a way to unite his sisters again and lead to LF's death while probably revealing some big facts about folks heritage. 

I don't really buy that the show has decided to make LF a player again after making him essentially useless the last 3 seasons. I think they're setting him up for a triumphant death that ultimately unites and puts the Stark children on the same page.

Perkis-Size Me

August 21st, 2017 at 9:42 AM ^

To be fair, if memory serves I believe the idea of going beyond the wall to capture a wight was originally Tyrion's idea. But yes, Jon ultimately decided to go along with it. 

Jon is a lot like other northerners. A great warrior and he inspires people to follow him (at least on the battlefield), but a crappy politician with little to no mind for strategy. 

1VaBlue1

August 21st, 2017 at 11:46 AM ^

He bent the knee (proverbially) because Tormund gave his permission, for lack of a better word.  Remember when they were talking about that?  Tormund said about Maynce Raider - 'he was a great king, but lost thousands, and himself, because of his pride.  You should have just bent your knee.'

Tacit approval to bend, with the Free Folk staying behind him.

ScooterTooter

August 21st, 2017 at 8:10 AM ^

So the good guys lost a dragon to capture a wight to show Cersei when they could have just went to King's Landing, flown the dragons overhead, announced that Cersei needed to surrender or be turned over in 24 hours or the capital gets it? Is there any reason to believe that one demonstration of dragon fire wouldn't have had Cersei body-surfing over the entire populace out the front gate and dropped at Dany's feet? 

Oh and why on earth wouldn't Ghost be with them on their trek north of the wall? Why wouldn't they have taken ravens? 

I'm also sick of Jon always being an idiot who costs his side dearly. 

Game of Thrones is still entertaining, but its lost a lot of its prestige status. 

1VaBlue1

August 21st, 2017 at 11:50 AM ^

The whole point of capturing a wight is to avoid burning down the capital.  Have you paid any attention this season?  Everyone knows the threat of melting cities will immedaitely win the war.  But what Tyrion has been championing - this whole season - is that use of the dragons to indiscriminately incinerate people/things/places will not make for a good, comfortable, peaceful time on the Iron Throne.  She would be just more of the same.

Try to keep up, man!

ScooterTooter

August 21st, 2017 at 12:36 PM ^

You probably shouldn't chastise people for not paying attention to a season of TV when you can't even comprehend a single comment. 

I didn't say burn down the capital. I said use the threat of the dragons to have Cersei surrender. She either does or someone inside will kill her or turn her over. She has no real loyalty from the people other than their fear of her and that goes away once dragons enter the equation. 

This would even lend itself to the perfect Jaime kills Cersei situation once Cersei prepares to set the city ablaze herself realizing she can't win. 

1VaBlue1

August 21st, 2017 at 4:02 PM ^

Realistically, Randyll Tarly and his son, Dickon, should have bent the knee, too.  But instead, Dany had to burn them alive because that's what she said she'd.  It's called follow through...  Once again, the whole point is to avoid fire bombing the entire country.  Threatening to do so means that you just might have to do it.

So its not that I didn't understand your comment, it's that your comment was, well, wasn't particularly enlightened.  

ScooterTooter

August 21st, 2017 at 4:12 PM ^

Again, from the standpoint of the show, what plan makes more sense: Bringing the might of your army to King's Landing and demanding surrender or 5-6 important characters (varying degrees) going on a mission north of the wall to bring back a single wight? 

On one hand, we've seen Dany conquer numerous cities without burning them down, have we not? Why not actually have all that be worth something now that she's back in Westeros? 

On the other, we have a suicide mission that is only saved through questionable storytelling. 

Also, your comment, though you don't know it, proves my point. After the Tarlys were fried everyone still standing bent the knee. You could just have Drogon land on a castle mount and roar fire into the air. I think people would get the picture. 

From a competent storytelling point of view, you know I'm right. 

nerv

August 21st, 2017 at 2:44 PM ^

What I can't believe is that Tyrion would ever even consider the plan of capturing the wight. He knows Cersei well enough to know she wouldn't give two shits about some nothern zombie. At best she would completely dismiss it as not a current or pressing issue. At worst she uses it to hurt Dany's armies or claim.

Dany was already about 97% on board with anything Jon was going to tell her. She risked everything to go save him with no proof but cave drawings (more excellent writing). The wight was to try and convince the capital. And Tyrion Lannister of all people should know the folly of trying to convince Cersei Lannister to do something for the good of the realm.

Solecismic

August 21st, 2017 at 4:36 PM ^

It is odd. Tyrion is giving her terrible advice when we've seen that he has good instincts. This is a somewhat magic world. There's no way Cersei isn't going to dimiss the wight as some sort of conjuring. So what are Tyrion's motives? He and Varys do a good job convincing themselves and each other that they want world peace and such. I'm starting to think, though, that Tyrion may want something else more personal and Lannister-related.

TrueBlue2003

August 21st, 2017 at 12:17 PM ^

was a stupid, stupid idea and storyline meant to set up a made-for-TV set piece with all of our favorite characters vs. the army of the dead.  I mean, that was clear when the plan was hatched so no need beating that dead horse (pun intended! heyyo).

I thought the same about Ghost.  He should have been there. Sad they've just written out the direwolves completely (although I'm still hoping for a return from one or both at some point).  

As for ravens, maybe they wouldn't survive in a cage in the cold, and usually maesters are the only ones trained in sending them, so that's more plausible that they wouldn't have brought them. Also, what were the odds they found themselves in a situation where sending a raven could help them instead of near immediate death i.e. stranded on on island in the middle of a frozen lake that wights (ridiculously) can't get to?

ScooterTooter

August 21st, 2017 at 12:49 PM ^

Wasn't Lord Commander Mormont pissed at Sam for not sending a raven back in season 2 or 3 when they were north of the wall?

What you're saying is plausible, but for the sake of the show, sending a raven immediately would make more sense than the Gendry runs however many miles and for how ever long and then a raven is sent. 

TrueBlue2003

August 21st, 2017 at 1:59 PM ^

brought Sam specifically so he could tend to and deploy the ravens if need be.  He was a steward working with Maester Aemon so he knew how to deploy them.  You supposedly need to be trained in ravens and it's likely no one on the trek last night knew how to do that.

Also, Mormont's ranging was one to explore what was happening to previous rangers that didn't return and whether there actually were walkers.  He figured that if they came under attack and didn't make it, at least they could send a raven to tell someone what actually happened to them.  Bringing the ravens wasn't really to call for a rescue mission.  In last night's case, if the team didn't return, everyone would know what happened to them so bringing a raven for informational purposes was unnecessary.  

And yes, a raven could have flown faster than Gendry could run, but again, it's not like you plan for the absurdly unlikely event that you're on an island surrounded by wights with enough time for a raven to summon a rescue mission. You leave thinking you're successful or you're dead.

The Maizer

August 21st, 2017 at 9:34 AM ^

The thing I didn't get: why did Jon send Gendry to Eastwatch to raven Danny? What was he supposed to tell her? "Jon is north of the wall and he got a wight! Also zombies e'rywhere!" He couldn't have told her that Jon and crew were trapped and needed help, he didn't know that.

TrueBlue2003

August 21st, 2017 at 2:03 PM ^

they knew they were going to encounter zombies everywhere, that was the purpose of the mission! Jon sent away one of the guys who was brought specifically to help with that exact situation, just to run back and call for help when at the time, there was literally a negligible chance they'd survive long enough for the help to come.

DuBuc

August 21st, 2017 at 9:45 AM ^

I'm as irritated as everyone else about the time travel breaks from reality and am critical that the writers went too slow for 6 seasons and left themselves with too little time resolve things realistically in the final seasons.  

That said, the writing is still very good.  Loved the dialogue as the characters marched North last night. More so, I love those characters and was convinced we were getting to see some of them for the last time last night.  A major difference between the "just a TV show" and GOT season 7 (even with some loss on the story telling end) is that underneath the movie quality cinematics, we really care about the characters due to the great writing and long build up to these scenese.  We believe any of them could die.  I was edge of my seat tense when Bronn was shooting at Drogon a couple episodes and just a bit gut sick last night wondering which of my favorites wasn't coming back from North of The Wall.  I haven't cared about characters in TV or movies like this in a long time.  Especially in special effects driven movies.  

I'm going to forgive them the time travel, suspend disbelef on it (the earned some mulligans) and simply relish the fiinal episodes of some the best TV ever in a genre I love and rarely get to enjoy at this quaity level.

TrueBlue2003

August 21st, 2017 at 2:04 PM ^

we got to know them through the first five seasons the way we were intended to (well, that goes for the Hound, Jon, Jorah and Tormund, not really the other three which is why no one cared when Thoros died).  Back when the show followed the books was when these characters were developed and you fell in love with them.  GRRM handed the writers a well set up narrative and complex characters people love.  It wasn't just a TV show for five seasons and now we've seen this transformation into a TV show. The showrunners have thrown in some endearing moments too, but...

....Martin's willingness to off anybody at any time is what made you believe any of them could die last night.  The fact that no one important (other than the dragon) died last night is evidence we've moved into fully typical television in which the characters you like are invincible (if that wasn't already clear when Bronn and Jaime both survived the loot train battle).

WestSider

August 21st, 2017 at 10:00 AM ^

dragon's mouth spray turn things to ice? That will be cool to see. Expect some epic dragon vs dragon battles. The problem I had with last night's episode was when Jon Snow motioned over to the Night King and his dead brass. When the dragons arrived he could have pointed to the Night King and Dany could have taken him out, destroying the entire horde. 

bacon1431

August 21st, 2017 at 10:23 AM ^

Most disappointing episode of the series IMO. Characters are just not behaving in ways for me to believe them. Only good parts were the walk north and the battle itself. The expedited traveling didn't bother me til this episode.

Wendyk5

August 21st, 2017 at 10:39 AM ^

I just started watching this year, with a binge watch of seasons 1-6 leading up to this season. I'll probably go back and watch it again because I know I missed a lot the first time around. What I really didn't understand in last night's episode is why Jon Snow would lead a way too small group to face the Wight Walkers? Just stupidity or did he have a legitimate plan? Or, more likely, a plot device to get the dragons into a future dragon vs dragon battle?