Bad mgoblog Twitter post is bad

Submitted by UMxWolverines on
If somebody could please embed for me, but here is the link. https://mobile.twitter.com/mgoblog/status/897134505030545408 I think some of us need to separate the real world and sports world sometimes. I understand the premise as far as the ridiculous moral victory headlines, but to put MSU and what happened on Saturday next to each other is pretty shitty.
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FrankMurphy

August 15th, 2017 at 4:06 PM ^

I understand your argument (I think), but honestly, attempts to associate trivial matters like college football with serious issues that strike profound emotional chords, evoke an unimaginably painful history, and implicate deeply-held sensitivities are rarely ever well-taken.

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JayMo4

August 15th, 2017 at 2:19 PM ^

Not the best joke But Brian and mgoblog have made a living injecting humor into college sports. If you make enough jokes, sooner or later you might make one you regret. That's not to excuse it, but I think we've all said things we wish we could take back, and most of us don't work in the public eye. One misstep is not a pattern. For now, I hope cooler heads prevail. Give Brian a chance to walk it back if he chooses, then go from there.

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tjohn7

August 15th, 2017 at 2:25 PM ^

Agreed. I think the post is hilarious on one level and not so much on another. If his intentions were pure, and meant to merely mock MSU and the Nazis simultaneously, I'll give him a pass.

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HarbaughsLeftElbow

August 15th, 2017 at 2:21 PM ^

He is making a humerous analogy based on two "silver linings" claims that are similarly ridiculous. Any implacation of equivocation is on the reader. 

If I claimed that Charlie Chaplin and Hitler both have similar mustaches am I am implying that Chaplin was a mass murderer and Hitler was a great early film actor?

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Everyone Murders

August 15th, 2017 at 2:51 PM ^

The Dictator is a good example, though, of going ahead with an edgy and pointed joke/gag/satire even though a certain percentage of dunderheads won't get the joke and will be offended.

A lot of people think that Lolita is a book celebrating pedophilia.  Those people have, in my experience, two things in common.  First, they only read the first half of the novel.  Second, they are idiots. 

As a general matter, I'm not a fan of dumbing down humor/satire/comedy for the lowest common denominator.  Give credit to your expected audience, and - if you're being edgy - understand that the humor will offend some who are predisposed to being offended (or simply not that bright).

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Newk

August 15th, 2017 at 6:32 PM ^

Tough to pull off Dictator-level satire with a tweet. Brian's error (as I see it) has something to do with the limitations of the medium. And the subject matter only raises the degree of difficulty. Maybe there was a good idea behind the original tweet, but if so the execution was poor, in my view.

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Bigku22

August 15th, 2017 at 2:57 PM ^

I thought it was funny, as I hate the alt-right and MSU football. Also, it's a solid twitter joke as the typical humor is much darker than say what you regularly see on Facebook or this blog. Also, enjoying the overly PC and high horse crowd getting fired up about it in these comments. Basically a hat-trick of enjoyment for me. Thank you Brian.

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Humid in Tampa

August 15th, 2017 at 3:57 PM ^

...which makes it difficult to joke about. I adopted two African American boys and my family stands out in public. At Lowe's a man decided to grab my 4 yr old by the arm and yell at him and my wife, saying he wanted to buy some slaves and wanted to know what aisle they were in. In a Publix parking lot, a man spit tobacco on me, my son, and our cart of groceries. We've heard obscenities countless times. I've had to answer questions no 4 year old should have to ask. I think about these things when my family goes anywhere and does anything. I search the faces of the people around us, always trying to stay ahead of the situation and protect my kids. Thankfully, the overwhelming majority of our fellow Americans smile or ignore us as they would any other family. But it only takes one asshole to ruin your nearby grocery store for your kids and send you shopping somewhere else. You change your lifestyle when this is your reality. It is neither high horse or PC to find the blending of this topic and sports offensive. If you think it's funny, that's fine. But please understand why others cannot.

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Humid in Tampa

August 15th, 2017 at 6:49 PM ^

I wasn't there when it happened. I suspect he was willing to act out publicly since it was only my wife and our 4 year old. One of the changes we've made as a family is that we limit the times she runs errands with the kids by herself. We also bought guns. When my son and I were spit on at Publix there were about 5 or 6 guys in a work crew standing by their trucks in the parking lot. I felt enraged and would have loved to break that guy's face but I was powerless in that situation. They saw my reaction and laughed. I want to emphasize that in 5 years of raising our boys we've had only a handful of negative experiences and many thousands of normal and even great experiences. We receive more smiles than rude comments by many magnitudes. As a Dad of a trans-racial family I am proud of what our country is today while also harboring greater hopes for what it still could be. Events like Charlottesville don't change my idea of the United States. We've always known those ideas were out there. But from our oldest's birthday in 2012 until the summer of 2016 we never had a single incident. Since then it's been a different matter.

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UMinSF

August 17th, 2017 at 1:44 PM ^

It's awful you and your family have to put up with that kind of garbage.

Please, I urge you to think twice before bring firearms into the mix - while the moments you've described are abhorrent, it doesn't sound like your family has been in mortal or even physical danger. Not sure how guns would change anything other than maybe escalation.

Not sure which of your statements is more accurate - "obscenities countless times" or "only a handful of negative experiences". If it's the former and your family is constantly being harrassed, I'd seriously consider choosing a more welcoming community.

I know lots of racially/ethnically mixed families here in SF (pretty much any combination one could imagine). A bunch of us had a conversation about this very topic, and outside of some inappropriate (but not ill-meaning) comments/questions, none mentioned any really bad experiences.

Bad apples everywhere (including here), but fergodsakes, you and your fam should be able to live your lives in peace. Best for you and yours!

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glewe

August 16th, 2017 at 12:30 AM ^

"The overly PC and high horse crowd"? Who are they?

As fun as it is to get into a pissing contest about whose sense of humor is superior, or raunchier, or manlier, or more irreverent (or whatever it is you're into), a woman died in a terrorist attack this weekend. It wouldn't be funny or smart if he had made the same comparison to ISIS. It's not funny when he makes the comparison to homocidal Nazis. This tweet is bizarre peacocking. Not only that, it's a shitty look for a fan base which loves to make itself out to be "better than." And it's also stupid for the boardmaster to do because it invited this discussion which is fraught with current political tensions.

He is capable of better. He should do that instead of this.

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mastodon

August 16th, 2017 at 2:37 AM ^

I'm sorry, I guess I missed the part where Brian stuck this poor woman's head on the end of a spear and sieg heiled his way through Twitterville. He was MOCKING those idiots - and State. But hey - please feel free to miss/overlook that and run with it. Way too far.

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yossarians tree

August 15th, 2017 at 2:23 PM ^

Not good. At all. I always said the best way to treat a win over Sparty is to say nothing at all. We expected it to happen. It's Barry Sanders handing the ball to the ref.

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Mack Tandonio

August 15th, 2017 at 3:16 PM ^

I think the tweet is fine. It's certainly more entertaining than the weak ass 3-9 jokes. The dignity headline was absurd and should have offended staee fans. besides, white supremacy is nothing to lose your sense of humor over... we'll keep beating them down just like little brother.

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ijohnb

August 15th, 2017 at 2:29 PM ^

I think it was just a bad joke that got away from him.  I think he saw the "moral victory" thing and noted how ridiculous such a claim is and it just reminded him of the MSU thing.  It just isn't a fit though.  I think people can often make funny jokes about the most serious of topics with tact.  This just wasn't one of those times.

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theytookourjobs

August 15th, 2017 at 2:25 PM ^

I think the tweet was probably a regretable mistake, but I respect Brian a lot for not deleting it and also debating it's merit with people.  He's taking a lot of internet heat for it at the moment

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UM Fan from Sydney

August 15th, 2017 at 2:26 PM ^

People in this country are overly sensitive.

Also, this thread is going to likely get well over 200 replies.

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