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08/03/2018 - 11:30pm If you're gonna play…

If you're gonna play spelling cop around this blog, you'd better watch your own p's and q's. It's "misogynist", bucko.

Only calling you out because you did it to someone else.

08/03/2018 - 8:48pm Regarding lying, there are…

Regarding lying, there are three possibilities: 1) he lied, repeatedly, at the presser; 2) he's lying in his statement today; or 3) both.

I've no doubt his respect for Bruce contributed to his "blind spot" with Smith. Urban's also had a pretty long track record of trying to be the savior of wayward souls (charitably, or using that as rationale for tolerating some pretty bad apples/behavior).

His biggest problem IMO is that this particular issue is happening now, in our current environment, with mandatory reporting responsibility and far less tolerance for "choosing not to see" horrible behavior toward women - and on the heels of the wrestling team mess coming to light.

It's just not acceptable to have a "blind spot", or to fail to act responsibly. Smith should never have been hired at OSU, or at least should have been long gone.

Bad timing, Urbs.


08/03/2018 - 8:14pm (No subject)


08/03/2018 - 7:55pm The more I think about this,…

The more I think about this, the more inclined I am to think Meyer lied last week AND today.

It's just too convenient that suddenly he remembers that he made "appropriate notification" in 2015. Too easy. He had plenty of time to "clarify" this; why wait until now (and obviously after conferring with lawyers)?

It seems pretty clear that he lied at the presser; I'm not buying his response today either.

08/03/2018 - 7:16pm His performance at the…

His performance at the presser has no bearing on his enabling a perpetrator of DV. Continuing to employ him despite a TON of evidence and many, many incidents = enabling.

Buckeye2745, please know this isn't personal; I'm just furious that yet again a school in our conference is involved in an awful scandal - your school currently has two!

This has got to stop. Athletics, especially football, has to be put in some perspective. The B1G conference has always held itself up as being about like-minded academic institutions working together to further academics and athletics. PSU, MSU, OSU - it's pretty embarrassing to have three prominent schools involved in awful scandals. I know this isn't on the level of the PSU/MSU disasters, but combined with your wrestling team mess, it's not good.

I would much rather this never happened, and we (finally) kicked your butt when you're at full strength; the sad fact is that it's happened. You knew Meyer had big red flags when you hired him.

Now, I sincerely hope OSU does what MSU didn't have the ethical standards to do - fire Meyer, fire Smith, and hire some people who will start doing the right thing, every time. Your football team will be fine.

08/03/2018 - 6:11pm I will agree there may be…

I will agree there may be some gray area regarding the actual DV events that occurred. That said, IMO the evidence seems damning that there was repeated DV over many years. 

Where there is no gray area is that Urbs lied through his teeth at the BIG presser OR is lying through his teeth now. There's no getting around that. He's a liar.

I read so many buckeye fans say "I watched that presser, there's no way he could have lied, he was too sincere". Bullshit.

Where there is also no gray area is that he hired this idiot at Florida, and re-hired his ass at OSU, and continued to employ him despite many, many allegations/instances/reports of DV. 

No gray area. He's a liar, and he's a protector/enabler of a DV scumbag. 

08/03/2018 - 5:54pm What gray area?

What part…

What gray area?

What part of this could possibly not lead to the conclusion that he's a brazen liar, and a protector of a wife-beater?

He absolutely knew he would be asked at the BIG presser about Smith. He adamantly, repeatedly, arrogantly denied any knowledge of the 2015 incident. Dude, he had a week to prepare his answer.

Now he claims that sure, I lied - wait, misspoke - at the presser, but he reported the 2015 incident. C'mon.

There's NO gray area that he lied, openly and repeatedly.

There's NO gray area that he continued to employ a guy he knew was a repeated wife-beater for years.

Again I ask - what gray area?


08/03/2018 - 5:46pm Will forever refer to this a…

Will forever refer to this a-hole as Urban Liar.

08/03/2018 - 5:36pm So there it is. Admit lying…

So there it is. Admit lying to media to save your job. OSU can suddenly "discover" he reported in 2015.

I am so sick of powerful people lying through their teeth. C'mon, he was so f'ing pretentious and adamant at the presser - it's impossible that he misspoke. Repeatedly.

And furthermore, he KNEW this would be the first question asked; he had to have prepared his arrogant and snide response.

The sad thing is it will probably work. 4 game suspension, and everything goes away.

I'm disgusted.

08/02/2018 - 2:25pm Get well, Ace. Stay positive…

Get well, Ace. Stay positive and keep your fighting spirit. 

You've got a great support system; don't hesitate or feel guilty for leaning on them. When you're 100%, you can pay it forward.

Take heart in knowing you've built a huge band of folks who are rooting for you - not because of your wonderful writing, but because of your even more wonderful heart.

I'm sure it's not easy to share your personal struggle with the world; please know we appreciate your courage and honesty.

We'll be here to celebrate your healthy return!

08/01/2018 - 1:18pm I certainly hope that if it…

I certainly hope that if it hasn't happened already, JH, Warde, and our administration/Title IX compliance staff immediately address this with coach Warinner.

Furthermore, I hope EW will be completely honest and forthcoming, and those entrusted to act appropriately will do so.

I emphatically state it's very possible EW took proper action based on his knowledge and position. It must, however, be taken seriously and thoroughly ascertained.

Then, in light of all the scandals happening in our conference, I think a public statement describing the school's action/decision-making rationale should be made. There are no issues of protecting privacy IME since students aren't involved and the story is public knowledge.

It's the cover-up and secrecy that always make things worse, and enable bad behavior in the first place.

This sucks. I take no pleasure in yet another scandal in our conference. 

Eyes are wide open these days. To avoid getting swept into the pile of disrepute, UM has to act quickly and appropriately, every time.

06/19/2018 - 4:34pm Honest question - is that…

Honest question - is that more on the ref, or on the Poland players? 

It looked to me like horribly bad luck on both parts - surely the ref wouldn't have let the guy on the field at that moment if he knew a back pass was coming, and surely the Poland player wouldn't have back-passed if he thought the ref would release the guy at just that moment.

Crazy way to effectively clinch a game, for sure.

06/19/2018 - 4:25pm I couldn't agree more about…

I couldn't agree more about Lalas, Toledo. I think his studio mates hate him too. Did you hear the guy push back at him today? He said something like "Are you coming after me now?" Seemed like real tension.

Dude loves his own hot takes, and seems to think he's the genius in the room.

06/19/2018 - 4:16pm Freddy,

You kind of…


You kind of contradicted yourself there. First you said you don't get all the hate toward floppers, then you used whining CBB coaches as a comparison, and said you hate that. That's exactly why people hate the flopping, diving, and writhing. It's phony, it's cheap gamesmanship, and it detracts from the game, at least for me. Others have told me they think "gamesmanship" is admirable and crafty; I don't agree.

I'm probably one of the people who annoys you, because it's an element of soccer that really bugs me. 

As for applying the same logic to other sports, I'll take it a step further. To a certain extent, I think flopping/diving in soccer has directly influenced other sports, as more players from soccer-first countries have entered our major leagues. Vlade Divac was a notorious flopper, and his generation of Euros seemed to change basketball (for the worse, IMO). I'd say the same thing in hockey; before the influx of Euros, both hoops and hockey had a taboo against flopping (used to love Don Cherry's rants). 

Of course, there have always been exceptions, but IMO both basketball and hockey have far more flopping and diving than they did prior to the influx and influence of players from soccer-first countries. 

All that said, I agree flopping exists because often enough it works. I still dislike it. Who likes the kid who's always calling fouls, or complaining to the refs?

06/19/2018 - 3:39pm MGoStrength, you neglected…

MGoStrength, you neglected to acknowledge the vast ocean between Charles MF Woodson and Channing Stribling, by far the largest gap on the list.

Chuck was absolutely the best player I've ever seen at Michigan, and among the best college players I've seen, period (group includes Lee Roy Selmon, Anthony Munoz, Herschel Walker, LT, Earl Campbell, Barry and Deion Sanders...can't bring myself to include that RB from Ohio). 

All-time legend and Heisman winner >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Channing Stibling.

That position alone puts my vote with the 5*

05/30/2018 - 8:06pm Track record

JB has turned so many guys with significant flaws into early-entry NBA draftees. By now, it's almost surprising when his players don't end up leaving early.

I would love for this kid to be around four years, but if he becomes NBA-ready, that's good news too.

05/30/2018 - 8:01pm I'm with you, thinkin

but there might not be enough PT available here for his full development. Hope he gets a good chance to make the leap.

05/30/2018 - 7:42pm Coach B

Has now excelled in every possible way, and by now must have satisfied every critic:

- Exciting, innovative offense? Check, always.

- Ethical, honest, plays by the rules? Check, for sure.

- Great teacher and developer? Without a doubt.

- Outstanding representative of school? Absolutely.

- Consistent, sustained success? Check.

and now...

- Defense? Amazingly, Check.

- Recruiting? Check.

No one I would rather have as our coach!

05/30/2018 - 7:33pm Basketball Program

is on fire. We are in peak Beilein!

05/30/2018 - 7:30pm You're 100% correct snarling

Livers is going to be good. He had a very good freshman year, and will be much better in year 2. Give the freshmen time to develop; Livers will be just fine.

05/22/2018 - 7:06pm I don't like it

I enjoy conference games, and like when we play traditional opponents. I'm not a fan of cupcakes. IMO, the whole purpose of being in a conference is to play against those teams.

Would much rather enjoy a difficult schedule full of exciting games, even if it slightly lowers playoff chances. Just my 2 pennies.


05/22/2018 - 3:25pm Two points

First, IMO it's not unlikely that LT will take a step back AND the rest of the line will be much improved. 

A good coaching staff (which we have), will adapt the team and playcalling to its strengths and weaknesses. TE's/RB's will be deployed to help out the left side, the QB will move away from potential trouble, and counters will be used to try to keep the DE's honest.

Second, there is little doubt in my mind that Shea is an upgrade over last year's QBs, and that he will continue to improve. Sure, he has to learn a new system, but he will also benefit from Harbaugh's proven QB coaching. It will also be his 2nd year as a starter - that's very often when QBs grow from good to excellent.

I'm bullish on this season - defense will keep games close, and we will have experienced players in place to win close games.

Go Blue!

05/07/2018 - 3:48am Wow, Esterhaus

I can't just let your comment stand. I hesitate to get into this discussion, but sometimes remaining silent is wrong.

I'm referring to what you said about being an "urban survivalist", and your admitted "disassociative sociopathy". You actually seem to imply that city folks are missing out, or at least "clueless" because they aren't sociopaths. Wow.

By self-description, you are a sociopath; by your later statements, you sound possibly psychopathic as well.

What you implied you might do in an event "comparable to Ferguson or Baltimore" is terribly disturbing. Good gracious, man - it's NOT cool to say you have the willpower to blow away 500 human beings! Seriously, you need help.

Based on an admittedly less-than thorough search, it appears 1 person died in Ferguson, and 0 in Baltimore attributed to the uprising/riots (excluding Gray/Brown, of course). Yes, there were injuries (14 in Ferguson, many more in Baltimore, including 20 police officers) and of course property damage, looting and arson.

Murdering 500 people is an entirely different, horrific magnitude of violence. 

Which leads me to your contradictory, very disturbing statements "I developed a deep and genuine appreciation for all life forms", and "I have the ability, expertise, and willpower to mow down 500+ criminal arsonists or other invaders within minutes, and then to sleep soundly..." So, you'll hesitate to harm a pig, but have no qualms about murdering people you deem to be "criminals or invaders". 

Unless this was just internet tough-guy talk, you, sir, are ill. It's frightening that a person with your state of mind has a "small arsenal". For the sake of everyone in Chicago (including many of my friends and family), please get help.

I'm sincerely not trying to pick a fight. Your words are pretty scary.



05/04/2018 - 5:20pm I don't speak Mandarin

and they don't speak English, so it will remain a mystery.

05/04/2018 - 5:04pm Maybe you're right, Gulo

Personally, I wouldn't look to bunch of complete strangers on a sports blog for advice on educational choices, but I suppose it couldn't hurt.

Construction workers outside my window making earsplitting noise has made me a bit grumpy today. I should lighten up.

05/04/2018 - 4:52pm All the best, Ace

You've certainly gone through more than your share of health crap. 

One positive thing to share - when I had my g.b. removed, my elderly surgeon said he'd done literally thousands of the procedure without any significant problems. He went so far as to say: "All surgery involves risk, and it's my obligation to communicate that to you. That said, you'll be fine". 

I was home a few hours later, and working the next day. No problemo.

Hope your health continues to improve. Take care, and get better.

05/04/2018 - 4:39pm Definitely a humble brag

Congrats on having a kid with a bright future.

You already know both schools are great, and it's a matter of which is a better fit for your kid (and possibly your finances).

A bunch of Michigan bloggers aren't going to provide unbiased advice that helps with this decision.

Maybe facebook is a better place for you to tell people about how smart your kid is.

Sorry if this sounds harsh, but sheesh.

05/02/2018 - 9:04pm Good list jbrand - but Orr NO!

If you ever saw Orr in his prime you'd never include him in an overrated list.

The most dominant, game-changing, spectacular hockey player I've ever seen.  Watching him made me a hockey fan.

Yeah, his career was sadly shortened by injury, but those 6 great seasons were incredible.

Orr completely changed hockey; he invented the entire concept of the scoring defenseman.

He and Coffey still have all 10 top scoring seasons by a defenseman.

Loved watching Howe, Gretzky, Lemieux, Yzerman, etc., but Orr was the most magical player I've seen.


05/02/2018 - 8:44pm Good call on Peyton

Peyton "Happy Feet" Manning. 

He was definitely sub-par in the clutch, and the year he won the 2nd SB his arm was a complete rag. 

Really good, HOF-level player - yes. Pantheon? No way.

Will always treasure "Manning face", and his reaction when Woodson took "his" Heisman. Priceless.

05/02/2018 - 4:46pm People cutting down Stafford

If you're a Lion's fan (or painfully watch them at least) and run down Stafford, you're either very young or have a short memory. He's easily the best Lion's QB since the 1950's.

Stafford's no Brady, but he's pretty damn good. Ask a Browns, Bills, Jets or Bears fan (among others) if he/she would be happy to have him. 

If Stafford played for a better team/franchise, he'd be considered in the top group of QB's.

05/02/2018 - 4:30pm Iverson

He doesn't measure up too well using today's advanced metrics, but wow, he was amazing to watch.

There's no doubt in my mind he's the fastest basketball player I've ever seen, especially when he was at Georgetown. He would have been an amazing college QB if the bowling alley incident hadn't happened.

He was like a faster, smaller Westbrook. Super fun to watch, not ideal to play with or win NBA titles.

05/02/2018 - 12:43pm Matthews started at KY

1. Matthews originally signed with Kentucky. Guys play for Calipari to get to the NBA, quickly. So, I think if Charles believes he has a decent NBA shot, he's going to take it.

2. IMO he's not ready, and could really benefit from another year in college. His FT shooting and handle need work, and he could benefit by improving his shot, especially 3pt. He wouldn't need a dramatic leap in those areas to greatly increase his stock - modest improvement would make him a pretty valuable player. Coach B is one of the elite talent developers in all of basketball. I'm convinced playing at Michigan for Coach B is a better opportunity for improvement than an NBA bench or G-League.

3. I disagree with people who say players - even those who make it in the NBA - wouldn't get better if they stay in college. With the rare exception of the absolute prodigies (LeBrons/Kobes of the world), almost all players are/would be much better when they enter the NBA after more seasoning. Back when guys played 3-4 years in college, they were terrific the minute they joined the league. IMO Wagner was clearly a better player this year; his offensive numbers didn't go up, but he was stronger, smarter, and made his team better.

Even NBA execs know the quality of play in the league isn't helped by all the young guys entering the league drafted on potential, learning on the job.

That said...

4. There's a lot to be said for cashing in ASAP, and maximizing your NBA career. NBA execs often seem to draft potential above production. NBA guys make incredible amounts of money. Hard to blame anyone for making a purely business decision. 

04/17/2018 - 1:55pm Quarterback chart

Thank you Seth for the QB comparison chart(?) - chart. Wow, that was illuminating to me. 

IMO, based on that information, if Shea plays we're gonna have an absolutely top-tier talent at the helm. If not, well, hopefully Brandon makes a leap. 

I've read and heard a lot about how good Shea is, and sure, different system/different style, etc. - but wow! His numbers sure jump off the page.

Fingers crossed!

04/16/2018 - 2:09pm Agree with other recent comments

Livers is gonna start and be just fine.

I know every player is different, but I keep remembering how awful DJ Wilson looked his first year on the court, and how drastically he improved - not to mention Caris, Teske, and on and on...

Livers looked pretty damn good last year, and next year will be his time to step up from supporting role to prominent role. 

Even if his improvement is marginal in all areas he will be a valuable player - and I won't be a bit surprised if he explodes. 

The freshmen will have their moments, and by tournament time will probably provide some real contribution, but LIvers will be a solid starter and player for us.

04/14/2018 - 2:27pm Special kid

Even Coach Beilein made a point of saying what a special person he is, and how much he enjoys having him around.

Best of luck Moe - you will certainly be missed.

04/14/2018 - 2:21pm Whole enterprise can still work

There are a lot of cynics who say stuff like "athletes aren't there for an education" and "the whole thing needs to be blown up - the concept of student-athlete is dead", and most frustrating to me "all these schools are the same - they don't care about the kids, just about the money".

I'm so glad that our school, our coaches, and our administration still believe in and foster the concept of the student-athlete.

I'm so glad there are still schools - especially OUR school - that emphasize and provide academics and a true university experience for athletes in addition to sports.

I'm so glad there are still kids like Noah (and Moe, and on and on) who represent our school so magnificently.

Embodiment of "student-athlete". Congratulations Noah - Plant the "M" flag on Mars!

04/14/2018 - 2:00pm Beautiful letter, wonderful person

One of my all-time favorite Michigan players in any sport. Just a really great, fun kid.

And, we finally have formal resolution of the "Moe" vs. "Mo" debate!

04/13/2018 - 8:53pm Livers will get more minutes

Livers is gonna take a big jump forward next year, and Johns, Iggy and DDJ, while talented, are still freshmen.

Time in Beilein's system is really important, and so many guys have improved dramatically over time. Livers is gonna be really good, and the frosh are gonna fight for PT. 

Livers showed flashes of a jump shot and an ability to attack the basket; IMO he's going to make a soph leap.

By tournament time, hopefully the young guys will be real contributors, but I think Livers is gonna be a very important part of this team.


04/11/2018 - 7:48pm Not enough credit to development

John Beilein develops players.

It takes time for most guys to fully grasp JB's system and cut out mistakes.

These things have been proven time and again.

IMO, Poole and Livers will both make huge jumps next year - they have the talent, and this year's experience will pay huge dividends.

It's not certain if Watson or Brooks will make the jump - but if past years and  players under JB are any indication, it's very possible. I won't be a bit suprised if Davis' improvement is similar to Teske's this year.

It's not easy to be an impact freshmen in Beilein's system - even a future star like Poole needed this year to adjust.

It's likely the incoming guys will make some contributions, but highly unlikely they'll step in and be stars, or even primary contributors.

By tournament time, one or two will probably grow into valuable secondary pieces, and blow up the following year.

It's almost a certainty that one or more guys who are afterthoughts this year become really good next year. That's JB's greatest gift.



04/04/2018 - 5:41pm 2013 definitely more exhilarating offensively

And that team was more talented - as were the Fab 5 and '89 teams. What made this more fun for me was the journey. This team just grew and grew and grew.

My expectations were so low after the NC game.

I never question JB's ability to build a team over the course of a season, but this was "Hoosiers" level to me. The gang that couldn't shoot straight made it to the title game - damn.

04/04/2018 - 4:41pm Great job guys

I'm just gonna cop out and say this was absolutely the most fun I've ever had watching Michigan basketball.

Really love every player on the team, and more improvement than I've ever seen from start to finish.

04/04/2018 - 4:24pm My two cents

FIrst, IMO people vastly underrate development potential of current players, and overrate incoming freshmen - especially under John Beilein.

So much evidence of guys who were awful as frosh/sophs, who suddenly became really good. DJ Wilson and Teske, for example, looked terrible as freshmen, then became completely different players. Remember toothpick Wilson hoisting up horrific threes?

Per the article I'll focus mostly on PG's here, but both Poole and LIvers look like guys who are capable of becoming big-time contributors. Poole's obvious, but Livers showed much more as a frosh than Wilson or Teske. He's gonna be good.

As for PG, Simpson's our starter, and a good one at that. Not likely to replace PG who took you to NCAA finals, where he shut down POY.

Simpson's ceiling offensively is limited, but I see him continuing to improve his driving/passing game, and becoming less of a liability at the line. Lots of bigs who never improve at the line; typically guards can improve with work. I'll be surprised if he doesn't shoot well into the 60's% next year. Not great, but not awful. 

As for his passing, I give credit to Loyola; their quickness and switching caused problems; a couple of times Simpson saw an opening, and a Loyola guy got a fingertip on the ball. I think he'll continue to improve and be a fine passer and assist guy.

Do not understimate his defense. Shutting down the opposing team's 'QB' is incredibly valuable.

I also think Brooks has a future here. He needs to get stronger, and Sanderson's a good guy to bring it out. He can play IMO, and just needs time.

It takes awhile for PG's to grasp JB's offense. Many of you people know far more about DeJulius than I, but I'll be surprised if he gets more than a limited, gunner off the bench role as a frosh.

IMO we're looking strong at PG. Jr Simpson > So Simpson, and depth should be better too.




04/03/2018 - 2:52pm Exactly right, N B

The one player visibly exhausted last night was Mo. He completely carried the team on Saturday, and I think that supreme effort took a lot out of him. He came out last night on fire, but just didn't have the stamina. It really showed up on the boards, where he didn't seem to have the quickness and power to block out, or the explosion to win the jump balls.

It seemed Matthews was a bit slow-footed out there too - if I'm not mistaken, Di Vincenzo blew past him a couple of times. He might have been a bit gassed from Saturday as well.

Conversely, both MAAR and Simpson had plenty of energy. I thought they did a fine defensive job - it's pretty hard to stop someone bombing from 4 feet outside the arc. MAAR was super active on offense, and had plenty in the tank.

Another factor is adrenaline. I think all those missed 3's kind of sapped our energy. Basketball is a game of momentum, and Michigan's players this year in particular seemed to feed off each other's success.

04/03/2018 - 4:21am Di Vincenzo was unconscious

It seemed like we did a fantastic job of defending 'nova at the 3-point line. They responded by just shooting from so far outside they were left uncovered. Normally that's not a great strategy, but damn, those guys can shoot.

They also dominated us on the offensive boards.

On our end, we had one of those nights where the entire team was missing. Duncan, Livers, Poole and Teske contributed next to nothing offensively. We just didn't have the firepower tonight.

Nova shot better, and just plain beat us. 

We had a great season. Too bad it had to end this way, but Michigan greatly outperformed expectations, and frankly overachieved based on their talent. 

The future is bright, and we have some great memories. 

Go Blue!

04/03/2018 - 3:59am Players will improve

Anyone who doubts that either hasn't been watching or is incredibly pessimistic.

John Beilein is a master at player developemet. Wilson looked useless two years ago, and last year he was sensational. Teske looked awful last year, and MAAR and Simpson both greatly improved this year.

I'll be shocked if Livers and Poole aren't great next year, and Teske, Matthews and Simpson will continue to improve. I won't be a bit surprised if Brooks, Watson and/or Davis become good players too. 

We have a bunch of very highly regarded freshmen coming in too - but even without them we have talent.

Michigan is going to be good, and maybe great by tournament time.

And c'mon, we made it to the championship game this year - it's not like our players underperformed or werent' good this year. 

04/03/2018 - 3:32am I sure the hell had fun

This season was a blast!

Proud of the team, loved the crazy run.

Remember people, Poole made a miracle shot. We were very fortunate to make it to the sweet 16, and we got 4 more games - it was a blast!

Even better, we have a very solid program, a fantastic coach, and a shit ton of talent coming to campus. No gloom and doom here - Go Blue!

04/02/2018 - 3:12pm You win

You are a super pro!

04/02/2018 - 3:00pm Reading a sports blog

You may be familiar with it. MGo something or other

04/02/2018 - 2:47pm Feels like "Izzo mystique" is gone

He had built up such a reputation as "Mr. March" and "good, blue-collar guy".


- scandals

- disappointing team performance

- complete lack of player development

- another coach and team in-state stealing the spotlight, and doing all the things he was supposed to do

- players running to NBA like rats jumping off a sinking ship

Tough times in EL, for sure


04/02/2018 - 2:23pm The fact we're all here

pretty much sums up the blog's cumulative productivity level.