|12/05/2018 - 3:12pm||That's an interesting point,…||
That's an interesting point, matt D. Thanks for that.
Coach Beilein's style resembles the modern pro game in many ways, with the exception of tempo. I could see how the far less structured Kentucky style would be attractive to some guys. Even Coach K seems to play a less structured style these days.
That said, unlike many here I don't like one-and-dones, and I'm glad we don't get them.
I don't see the fun of watching guys who are just biding their time, with eyes and emotions focused on the next level. I also don't like the whole idea of guys who "ain't here to play school". Just MO.
|12/05/2018 - 3:03pm||By name alone, he sure…||
By name alone, he sure sounds a lot like Rondale Moore.
Rondale vs. Wandale should make for some epic matchups.
|12/05/2018 - 2:57pm||I'm not so sure about that -…||
I'm not so sure about that - not this year.
We all know what they did to us in The Game. In all likelihood, a rematch would be much closer. How would that help OSU?
Even if they crushed us a second time, it would only make us look worse.
They got their best chance by demolishing us the first time. Furthermore, they were lucky to be in the conversation after their lucky escape against MD. Fuck them.
|12/05/2018 - 2:30pm||For every player, there a…||
For every player, there a several things to consider:
- How much do I enjoy the college experience and/or value a degree? (yes, they can return, but it's not so easy/common).
- Can I continue to improve in college? This pertains to both draft position and actual level of play. Coach Beilein is a premier developer of talent. IMO there aren't many G-league/international/NBA teams that offer a better opportunity for improvement, with possible exception of level of competition.
- Lottery pick or no? This is a big one. Lottery picks make a TON of money. FU money. G-league/journeymen don't.
- Maturity level. I think most guys don't weigh this highly enough. Grown-up life is hard, and pro hoops is a cold, harsh business. If you're not ready to take on adult responsibilities and pressures, maybe you should consider another year of growing up in a nurturing college environment.
|12/05/2018 - 2:18pm||It's not just Iggy's shot…||
It's not just Iggy's shot that could use work. The kid is a black hole right now. He needs lots of work on his court vision and passing.
I think Iggy's a great talent; his ability to finish strong with both hands is rare and NBA-caliber.
There's a place for him in the NBA; I just hope he recognizes JB and Michigan provide an ideal opportunity for him to hone his skills.
That's the beauty of Coach Beilein - not only is he a wonderful teacher, he runs NBA-style concepts and style that directly translates to the league. Stay and learn from a master, young Iggy.
|12/05/2018 - 2:09pm||Agree and disagree Richard. …||
Agree and disagree Richard.
Totally agree that if he gets his degree it's probably in his best interest to go. It's time. There comes a time when a player has maximized his draft potential because drafts are projections, and sometimes real results don't match potential results.
Disagree about "you are who you are". Kids develop at different rates, and IMO it's a myth that most upperclassmen don't continue to improve.
Back when the top guys played 4 years in college, they were absolute MONSTERS as juniors and seniors. Are you old enough to remember Ewing and Duncan as upperclassmen? They were incredible. Most kids get better, often much better.
I could give a million other examples, in all sports. It baffles me why people feel the sophmore version of a player is the same guy they'll see as a senior - happens sometimes, but more often than not, the senior version is vastly better.
|12/05/2018 - 1:54pm||I am kind of a stats guy,…||
I am kind of a stats guy, but I also watch a lot of basketball. In most games this year Matthews has played really well.
We're only 9 games in, so last night's clunker has a larger impact than it might otherwise have. How did his stats look before last night? I'd guess they look pretty close to last year.
He is the guy who has taken on the unenviable role of shot creator late in the clock; those are the very toughest shots to make, and he's done a damn good job with that step-back fadeaway. Being the guy in that role will impact shooting stats.
His FT shooting looks better, and I hope it translates into a % in the mid-60%'s by year-end.
He's been a great leader, and has played superb defense.
So, could he make an NBA roster? I think so, as a lock-down, hustling defender who can run the break and finish and grab some boards. He's got hops, and he's quick and very tough. He's no starter, but I could see him as a guy who provides solid minutes off the bench. Shaun Livingston type if he can improve his FT shooting.
Does his game need work/refinement? Sure, but he has the physical tools and the drive/toughness to make it work IMO.
|12/04/2018 - 11:56pm||This is going to be a really…||
This is going to be a really fun B1G season. The conference is deep, and we're probably gonna have a bunch of nail-biters.
It's great to start 2-0 in league, and win our first conference road game too.
Onward and upward!
|12/04/2018 - 11:53pm||I've learned to walk away…||
I've learned to walk away from game threads when things start to go south.
I'm not a fair-weather fan, just a fair-weather game thread participant.
I don't like reading all the defeatist, negative hot takes.
|12/04/2018 - 11:47pm||Maybe had to do with free…||
Maybe had to do with free throw shooting too.
Maybe Coach Beilein didn't want NW playing hack-a-Z.
|12/04/2018 - 11:44pm||Simpson and Matthews are…||
Simpson and Matthews are streaky offensively; they'll have their ups and downs. Simpson made some incredible layups in this game; he just fired up too many 3's. Livers sometimes just fades into the background.
Matthews got an early foul and never woke up. I think he's one guy that Coach Beilein might want to keep in the game rather than auto-bench. Seems like he lost his confidence or his focus when we was benched.
We've got enough weapons, combined with our D, that should pull out most games even when a couple guys are off. Tonight it was 3.
Honestly, my biggest fear is that it would come down to free throws. It's probably why Simpson spent more time than expected on the bench at the end.
We won, I'm happy. On to the next one!
|12/04/2018 - 11:31pm||I think the analogy to Teske…||
I think the analogy to Teske is pretty apt. IMO Davis is a bit less stiff than Teske was early in his career, but the clumsy fouls look very similar.
Not saying Davis will ever get as good as Teske, but then again, who would have guessed Teske would get this good, this soon? Switch. Turned. On.
Bigs take time. I believe he'll get there, at least to the level of being a contributor. Hopefully he and Johns will both get big minutes in the next few games. They need the run.
|12/04/2018 - 11:25pm||The season is still young…||
The season is still young. We got spoiled by the team playing like they are tournament-ready so early.
Sure our guys didn't play like the machine they've been all year; it happens. They'll improve - we've got Coach Beilein at the helm.
Road wins in the B1G are tough, and this is always an especially difficult game for us.
There's gonna be some clunkers, and we're not gonna win every game; I'm super happy we pulled this one out.
Incredible start to the season - Go Blue!
|12/04/2018 - 11:18pm||No opinion about Johns vs…||
No opinion about Johns vs. Davis, but disagree with your calling for Davis to transfer.
Bigs take time to develop. Davis will get better, and IMO will contribute positively.
People are way too quick to give up on kids - Beilein knows how to develop players, and has proven it again and again.
|12/04/2018 - 11:12pm||Yeah, probably a bit of…||
Yeah, probably a bit of hyperbole at this point, but he's certainly trending in that direction.
As they say "can't teach 7 feet".
If he keeps getting stronger and works on his shooting, I could totally see him as a backup C in the NBA. He's already good enough defensively.
|12/04/2018 - 11:04pm||Hey, it's good that we had a…||
Hey, it's good that we had a test; first time we've had to win in crunch time this year.
It wasn't pretty, but it was good enough.
|12/04/2018 - 11:03pm||One word - Whew!||
One word - Whew!
|12/04/2018 - 10:48pm||Ok, everything that can go…||
Ok, everything that can go wrong, has. Now let's get serious and win this thing!
|12/04/2018 - 9:32pm||NW is hustling on defense…||
NW is hustling on defense. Good test for us.
|12/04/2018 - 9:30pm||Teske has become an absolute…||
Teske has become an absolute force on both ends of the floor - amazing development
|12/04/2018 - 9:29pm||Pretty tight whistles…||
Pretty tight whistles tonight. Stay out of foul trouble, boys.
|12/04/2018 - 9:22pm||My god, we look fantastic.
My god, we look fantastic.
This team is sooooo good!
|12/04/2018 - 9:20pm||Who would have imagined it…||
Who would have imagined it would be totally reasonable to say that Teske is "NBA caliber" 8 games into this season?
|12/04/2018 - 9:17pm||Poole started slowly this…||
Poole started slowly this season, but wow, he's on fire now!
|12/04/2018 - 9:15pm||Pooooooole Party! Fouled…||
Pooooooole Party! Fouled twice from downtown already!
|12/04/2018 - 9:13pm||Teske's shooting great from…||
Teske's shooting great from the line the last couple of games - great to see!
|12/04/2018 - 9:10pm||Glad to see us get off to a…||
Glad to see us get off to a good start.
|12/03/2018 - 6:31pm||I've been watching a long…||
I've been watching a long time as well, and JB is easily the best coach we've ever had.
When I was a kid, we had lots of great athletes playing a very simple offense. Because we didn't run much of a sophisticated offense, Michigan had some terrific teams and loads of amazing players, but we often under-performed in the tournament - we just couldn't consistently win those pressure-cooker games. We also cut some ethical corners along the way.
No question we won a lot of games, and made some strong tourney runs (and grabbed a championship too). However, those teams never looked like a Beilein team.
From the time Coach Beilein got here, you could see the difference. For the first time in my memory, Michigan ran a real system, with actual sets and plays and strategies.
Turnovers became rare, and efficiency went up, up, up. He embraced the modern game, eschewing traditional positional roles and emphasizing flexibility. He understood the underutilized value of threes, and is a master of spreading the floor and creating space and great shots.
Once he fully implemented his offense, he recognized that to reach full potential he had to improve the defense. He was humble and self-aware enough to realize he needed new minds and talent on his staff - and he was smart enough to let go and allow others lead the defensive effort (thank you Coach Yaklich!).
Throughout his tenure (and his entire career, it appears), he has been an incredible teacher, and a great man that players respect, revere, and accept coaching from.
Anyone who is in coaching, or any management position could learn a whole lot from John Beilein.
|12/03/2018 - 6:11pm||I think people…||
I think people underestimated how challenging a rebuilding job Coach Beilein faced. The sanctions and dead decade profoundly damaged Michigan basketball.
Coach Beilein methodically built up the program without taking any shortcuts, including in recruiting.
The man has done a fantastic job, and we now have a great team, and a formidable basketball program.
When Coach Beilein decides it's time to hang 'em up, he will leave behind a million great memories for fans and a stellar basketball program.
|12/01/2018 - 11:26pm||The only thing keeping them…||
The only thing keeping them out in that scenario would be the losing streak. Fortunately we won't have to worry about that.
It's so nice to feel comfortable about making the tournament so early. Let's win the B1G!
|12/01/2018 - 7:07pm||Two thoughts:
- Right now,…
- Right now, we've definitely compiled the most impressive resume in the country. Blown out every single team we've played, including some very good opponents, home, neutral, and away.
- If we stay this hot, we could clinch an NCAA berth by January!
|12/01/2018 - 5:41pm||If they're not selling out,…||
If they're not selling out, Michigan should do something about it.
Make tickets affordable, and let people know they're available.
Hell, give them to the students. This team and program deserves a boisterous full house every game!
|12/01/2018 - 5:39pm||It's a long season, and…||
It's a long season, and there's bound to be a stinker or two. Just enjoying the beautiful play so far.
We are so fortunate to have Coach Beilein, and this team feels special.
No nits to pick today - that was a terrific performance by a wonderful team!
|12/01/2018 - 5:30pm||Super slo-mo replay is so…||
Super slo-mo replay is so misleading. He held that ball for 1/10 of a second; in real time that does NOT look like possession.
|12/01/2018 - 5:16pm||Not gonna be 7th for long -…||
Not gonna be 7th for long - this team is on fire!
|12/01/2018 - 5:15pm||Every single game this year …||
Every single game this year +17 or more - DAMN!
|12/01/2018 - 5:13pm||Johns' first B1G point was a…||
Johns' first B1G point was a crazy bounce on that free throw. It's our day!
|12/01/2018 - 5:09pm||This has been Teske's best…||
This has been Teske's best game. So impressed!
|12/01/2018 - 5:07pm||Izzo does it EVERY SINGLE…||
Izzo does it EVERY SINGLE PLAY. Beilein makes sure to get his point across when it's important
|12/01/2018 - 5:06pm||+1 for alliteration, good sir||
+1 for alliteration, good sir
|12/01/2018 - 5:05pm||That was a fantastic steal…||
That was a fantastic steal by Simpson.
Beilein is pissed that Matthews didn't run down the clock, and he's right. Need to play smart at the end of games.
|12/01/2018 - 5:01pm||Aaaaand, back to 20!||
Aaaaand, back to 20!
|12/01/2018 - 5:00pm||Teske!!! That was clutch!||
Teske!!! That was clutch!
|12/01/2018 - 4:58pm||Need a bucket here. Bad.||
Need a bucket here. Bad.
|12/01/2018 - 4:54pm||Agree - not playing with the…||
Agree - not playing with the same energy. Hopefully the timeout will help.
|12/01/2018 - 4:48pm||This has not been ugly. They…||
This has not been ugly. They've shot the ball really well, and the high 3pt% easily offsets a few missed bunnies.
This has been a really strong performance, again.
|12/01/2018 - 4:43pm||Teske's gonna grab 20 boards…||
Teske's gonna grab 20 boards - love it!
|12/01/2018 - 4:40pm||Simpson is uncanny around…||
Simpson is uncanny around the basket. Those long arms seem to stretch forever
|12/01/2018 - 4:35pm||Edwards is really good, but…||
Edwards is really good, but he can't beat an entire, finely tuned team on his own.
We look unstoppable!
|12/01/2018 - 4:33pm||Edwards is really good. Damn.||
Edwards is really good. Damn.