ckersh74

June 13th, 2017 at 11:58 AM ^

12 guys gone, and I think they just brought in someone late. That puts them at ~74 scholarships as we're sitting here right now, shortly before noon on 6/13. For a point of reference, FCS teams get 63.

Bigku22

June 13th, 2017 at 12:50 PM ^

I'm gonna take a wild guess and say you're a regular at RCMB that just created his account to come over here and troll MSU posts. Hopefully you see the irony in you making a comment about what others elicit pleasure from in life.

Bigku22

June 13th, 2017 at 2:36 PM ^

You're mad on the internet, and created an account on an opposing fanbase message board specifically to troll. Please tell me more about the secret pleasures to life you've unlocked.

bronxblue

June 13th, 2017 at 11:57 AM ^

This isn't a surprise, but still it's pretty amazing.  There's a real chance that MSU will be demonstrably the worst team in a conference with Rutgers, Purdue, and Illinois.

bronxblue

June 13th, 2017 at 2:00 PM ^

It's more an indictment of MSU than any faith in Rutgers.  But right now, Rutgers may actually have scholarship FBS talent at most spots of their 2-deep.  MSU could be pulling dudes from the stands in the fall just to fill in the team picture.

bronxblue

June 13th, 2017 at 2:02 PM ^

Maybe, but it's fair to say Rutgers is the demonstrably more stable program right now.  Which is insane to say about a team that lost 375-0* against anyone with a pulse last year.

* citation needed.

Manonthemoon

June 13th, 2017 at 8:20 PM ^

I watched a video of a fight in January or February at Cedar Village. And I thought that people were saying some football players were involved. It was on the Lansing State Journal website. 

maize-blue

June 13th, 2017 at 12:04 PM ^

My guess is that Mork will be given the year to fix things. But I think it's going to be very difficult to come back from this. If we pound them this year it may the end for him in EL.

Bb011

June 13th, 2017 at 12:19 PM ^

At what point do we start to see people transferring because they want to get out of the dumpster fire, which would in turn just fuel the dumpster fire?

DCmissingAnnArbor

June 13th, 2017 at 12:28 PM ^

MSU looks pretty bad, for sure, but it's hard to not see them winning at least 4 games.

They've got WMU, Rutgers, and Bowling Green on the schedule, which seem like near locks.

Maryland (3-6 in B1G last year) and Indiana (big losses in players and coaching) at home look like probable wins. 

Then they still have Minnesota and Northwestern on the schedule, which could be toss ups or probable losses.

Michigan, OSU, PSU, Notre Dame, and Iowa all seem like very probable losses.

I think they win five games, but if they don't drop a gimme and get some decent O-line play, I could easily see them squeaking into a low-level bowl game. Seven wins feels like the ceiling though.

Ghost of Hoke

June 13th, 2017 at 12:50 PM ^

Always starts slow, even when they're good. There are zero locks on that schedule with 73 scholarship players. Just average injuries and attrition through the year wil put them down to 65 players. It's going to be a very long year for Sparty, well deserved. 

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uncle leo

June 13th, 2017 at 1:43 PM ^

I wasn't even going to include last year's team, but hell even they started relatively quick out of the gates with the ND win.

2015- 8-0

2014- 7-1

2013- 7-1

2012- 4-4 (crap season)

I mean, I am all for bashing MSU, but at least pick the correct facts.

wildbackdunesman

June 13th, 2017 at 2:11 PM ^

 MSU did kind of start slow the past 2 years...

 

2016, yes they beat Notre Dame as you say, but ND went 4-8...the game before that they struggled against Furman.  Then they crapped their pants the rest of the season until Rutgers after the ND game.

2015, they did win the BigTen, but they struggled in a lot of those early games.  It was a 1 score game into the 4th Quarter against Central Michigan.  Oregon had a down year.  Purdue and Rutgers nearly got MSU.  WMU was inside the 5 yardline and threw a silly pick, had it went for a TD, WMU would have been kicking for an onside for a chance to win the game.  They beat Air Force by 2 TDs, but it was due to big plays on Defense.  Air Force had more than 100 more yards of offense.

 

 

 

ckersh74

June 13th, 2017 at 2:12 PM ^

So....fucking around and winning late against the Furmans, WMUs and Easterns of the past few seasons should just be glossed over, right? If they do that against WMU and maybe even BG this fall, they're going to lose those games....and if they do.........

DomIngerson

June 13th, 2017 at 1:02 PM ^

Have you been paying attention this offseason? Or even MSUs 2016 season? Not only are their players D2 level but their assistant coaching staff might even be worse. I can't wait for their game vs Rutgers this year. Should be like our M00N game vs Northwestern except more fun and less sad...for us at least.

chrisu

June 13th, 2017 at 1:05 PM ^

WMU has quite a few returning starters on both sides of the ball. They lose a couple key contributors on offense, but for the first game of the season, I think the Broncos come out with a bigger chip on their shoulder than sparty and steal sparty's milk money. 

Rutgers/BG, year, those should be wins. Michigan, PSU, OSU, Iowa are losses. The rest are possibilities either way IMO.  

Frankly, I just don't think this team will have the horses or strength of character/leadership to make a bowl game.