Rumors: Luke Fickell to Cincinnati, Ed Warriner to Western Kentucky
http://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio-state-football/2016/12/77928/report-…
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Elevenwarriors reports linked above. Rumors OSU is going to lose Co-DC Luke Fickell to Cincinnati, who's on our schedule next year, and Co-OC Ed Warriner to Western Kentucky. Will be interesting to see who they get as replacements.
December 9th, 2016 at 6:20 PM ^
December 9th, 2016 at 6:28 PM ^
Plus +1 because of the dumb downvote.
December 9th, 2016 at 7:28 PM ^
December 9th, 2016 at 9:43 PM ^
You can't talk about the game until we beat the refs.
December 10th, 2016 at 12:45 PM ^
December 9th, 2016 at 6:21 PM ^
December 9th, 2016 at 6:42 PM ^
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December 9th, 2016 at 6:55 PM ^
December 9th, 2016 at 6:56 PM ^
Fickell was so bad as a HC. I hate to see him go.
December 9th, 2016 at 8:55 PM ^
Yeah, he went 6-7 at THEEE ohio with all that talent! Doesn't Houston have access to Wikipedia???
December 9th, 2016 at 11:28 PM ^
December 10th, 2016 at 8:08 AM ^
Fickel is Einhorn
December 9th, 2016 at 6:25 PM ^
Fuck OSU.
December 9th, 2016 at 6:36 PM ^
December 9th, 2016 at 8:21 PM ^
I agree. Not interested in acquiring chlamydia.
December 9th, 2016 at 9:24 PM ^
Or tripping over a poop-filled cooler on the walk home.
December 9th, 2016 at 6:27 PM ^
December 9th, 2016 at 6:28 PM ^
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December 9th, 2016 at 8:06 PM ^
Well, there's a realistic chance that Urban/Ohio State will have to replace all 5 top asst. coaches:
- co-OC Ed Warriner - Favored to accept the WKU job
- co-DC Luke Fickell - Negotiating contract with UC
- Special Teams Coordinator Kerry Coombs - Likely to follow Fickell to be UC's DC
- co-DC Greg Schiano - Interviewing at USF
- co-OC Tim Beck - Interviewing at FAU
Even Urban may have trouble fill 5 coordinator spots in a single offseason.
December 9th, 2016 at 9:34 PM ^
Let the decline commence I say....mu-hahahahaha
December 9th, 2016 at 10:05 PM ^
December 9th, 2016 at 11:02 PM ^
For the sake of continuity, this is not good. They open at Indiana next year and then follow that up with a home game versus Oklahoma. This will all happen while they are learning from a new staff. This is all assuming they lose said staff in the first place.
December 9th, 2016 at 11:13 PM ^
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December 9th, 2016 at 11:26 PM ^
I'll agree to disagree about over analyzing. Just put yourself in these shoes and tell me you wouldn't be concerned for our opening game against Florida -
Tim Drevno leaves
Jedd Fisch leaves
Don Brown leaves
Greg Mattison leaves
Sure - Harbaugh would replace them, and still Harbaugh, but if all those dominos were to fall for Michigan then it would cause panic.
This is all assuming a worst case scenario for OSU if what is posted above happens.
December 10th, 2016 at 12:15 AM ^
As long as Urban is there recruiting 5 stars from across the country - They'll be good. Almost a guarantee that they'll be better next year than they have been this year. No matter who the assistants are.
December 10th, 2016 at 1:33 AM ^
Unless USF stands for University of Say Fucking nothing
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December 9th, 2016 at 6:32 PM ^
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December 9th, 2016 at 7:50 PM ^
December 9th, 2016 at 6:32 PM ^
Hopefully they don't get Kevin Wilson. If they're going after him, hopefully Harbaugh would offer him more money to come here.
December 9th, 2016 at 6:41 PM ^
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December 9th, 2016 at 6:47 PM ^
December 9th, 2016 at 6:53 PM ^
because he had to keep dealing with reports of him abusing the players. They were plenty of them and when was the last time we heard something like that? Tim Beckman at Illinois.
I honestly can't imagine Wilson getting hired here.
December 9th, 2016 at 7:23 PM ^
It sounds to me like the AD had some serious dirt on him - which may not have gone public - given that Wilson accepted a greatly reduced buyout on his way out.
December 9th, 2016 at 6:54 PM ^
December 9th, 2016 at 7:05 PM ^
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December 9th, 2016 at 7:09 PM ^
December 9th, 2016 at 10:18 PM ^
December 10th, 2016 at 7:41 AM ^
December 9th, 2016 at 6:33 PM ^
December 9th, 2016 at 10:53 PM ^
tell me he is not going to pass your class
December 10th, 2016 at 9:54 AM ^
December 9th, 2016 at 6:36 PM ^
Pleas god...no Luke Fickell to UC. They were on the right path with Brian Kelly and Butch Jones. Out score your opponents. Fickell will continue the slide started by Tuberville.
They were a tire fire on offense as the scheme made no sense. They left a competent, senior QB in Gunnar Kiel on the bench to use a sophmore with a confusing mess of a scheme. It was painful to watch a team get worse as the year progressed.
Get PJ Fleck or equivalent as they have an upgraded stadium in Cincinnati. They aren't Power 5 but a decent jump for a rising coach. I remember the confusing mess that was Luke Fickell in the "Urban Meyer year in waiting" between Trestel and Meyer in Columbus
Brian
December 9th, 2016 at 6:39 PM ^
It will be interesting to see the development of the OSU coaching tree under Urban Meyer, but I will agree with others, when it comes to 11 Warriors....
December 9th, 2016 at 6:43 PM ^
December 9th, 2016 at 6:55 PM ^
OSU's defense was the weak link of the team in 2012 (33rd per S&P) and 2013 (44th) when he was the sole DC. In 2014 they brought in Ash and demoted Fickell to co-DC. The defense improved in 2014 (11th) and 2015 (7th). When Ash left for Rutgers they brought in Schiano as co-DC this year and they finished 3rd. The one common denominator is Fickell.
December 9th, 2016 at 8:01 PM ^
Everett Withers was the co-DC with Luke Fickell in 2012 and 2013. Fickell has always been the co-DC in charge of the front-7, and from 2012-2013 the problems on defense were centered around Withers' secondaries. The front-7 in 2013 & 2013 were pretty solid, but the secondary always gave up the big plays.
Fickell was mentored by Jim Tressel and Jim Heacock, which mean he runs a more conservative defense that focuses on not giving up the big plays with solid fundamentals. Withers on the other hand coached his DBs to always go for the big plays (forced fumbles, big hits, INTs), which was paired with the high risk of giving big plays up as well.
I blame the disharmony in defensive philosophies for Ohio State's struggles in 2012-2013, and not so much solely Luke Fickell. Ash and Schiano both run much more complementary secondaries than Withers ever did.
December 9th, 2016 at 8:19 PM ^
Interesting. I did not realize that. Perhaps Withers was the problem? Either way, I wasn't impressed with Fickell during his interim season.
December 9th, 2016 at 8:36 PM ^
I don't disagree that Luke Fickell underperformed in 2011, and it resulted in the worst season the Buckeyes have had since WWII.
However, keep in mind that Fickell was thrusted in the interim position with less than 4 months to prepare, and was paired with the offensive mastermind, Jim Bollman. On top of having to replace 7 starters on offense, and 8 starters on defense. So that team's ceiling being lead by a true freshman Braxton Miller was probably 8-9 wins.
December 9th, 2016 at 8:48 PM ^
That's a fair point. I'll be watching Fickell with a close eye the next few seasons.
December 9th, 2016 at 9:27 PM ^
I don't disagree that Luke Fickell underperformed in 2011, and it resulted in the worst season the Buckeyes have had since WWII.Worse than 1988 (4-6-1)?