cheesheadwolverine

November 21st, 2016 at 3:59 PM ^

Klinsmann had to go, but Arena is goign to be a disaster.  His on-the-record xenophobia suggests he is about to jettison half our most talented players because their parents  happened to be serving in Germany when they were born.

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FreddieMercuryHayes

November 21st, 2016 at 4:16 PM ^

That's the one scary part of Arena. But I think the worry is now just qualifying for the WC on short notice and Arena has the experience to stabilize the team before a longer term choice is settled on probably after the WC. But who knows, maybe he does a great job and keeps it longer term?



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Yo_Blue

November 21st, 2016 at 3:56 PM ^

Arena will fill in for the time being, but will they go with an MLS coach like Vermes from Sporting KC or Marsch from the NY Red Bulls?  They need some kind of new blood who plays with a system but can adapt to the opponent.

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Coach Carr Camp

November 21st, 2016 at 3:57 PM ^

I felt like in Copa America we finally started playing with a style JK was trying to implement. We crushed the Ticos and outplayed a solid Ecuador team. Why on earth he decides to switch to some 3-5-2 for our biggest WC qualifier is beyond me.

 

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FreddieMercuryHayes

November 21st, 2016 at 4:14 PM ^

Disagree. Those games were driven by emotion totally. Which is all well and good, and one thing Klinsmann appeared good at. But we saw also what happens when you only have emotion and 'effort' but lack structure to use it in; they got trounced by Columbia twice and Argentina embarrassed the US. It is clear that he capfuls the transform the US into what he promised at the beginning and no overall progress has been made in the last 5 years. It's time for a change.



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Rabbit21

November 21st, 2016 at 4:46 PM ^

Wait, we dump Klinsmaan to go back to Arena?  Agree that I hope this is just a get us to Russia move and that there is some sort of long range plan beyond that.

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drzoidburg

November 21st, 2016 at 6:01 PM ^

Lol at using accusations like xenophobia for national sports. The entire point is xenophobia! Now really, if you've got players who spent most of their life in another country, it undermines the very premise. I don't care where their parents were born, a guy who spent his whole life in Germany is German! Right now the American team is 1/3 the C team from Germany and i have no desire to watch that Just like i feel taking grad transfers is harmful to college/amateur sports - that kind of shit should be reserved for the pros.

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ken725

November 21st, 2016 at 7:12 PM ^

His comments might be the dumbest I have read regarding the matter. 

"It's unfair but you just have to deal with it," Kiesewetter said. "It's disrespectful towards my father. He was an American soldier in Berlin for 21/2 years and served in the army for 25 years. It's just wrong for some people to say his son is not American. "I'm an American." And in soccer, at least, that's all he's ever wanted to be.
http://www.latimes.com/sports/soccer/la-sp-us-soccer-friends-20160325-s… JAB dream since he was a kid was to play for the USMNT and he has a tattoo of Illinois on his elbow.

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I Want To Believe

November 21st, 2016 at 6:52 PM ^

USA men's soccer is a joke. They will NEVER be on the same level as the top European clubs. Idk why we even try to be. The USA has great athletes. The USA has always played better when being themselves rather than trying to be a European version of themselves. We need to win the physical battle and learn to defend.

I think the USA should go after a defensive minded coach.

You can't lose if the other team doesn't score.



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Eye of the Tiger

November 21st, 2016 at 10:03 PM ^

Certain European national teams specialize in defending, and can be quite physical (Italy, Sweden and Croatia, for example). "European" does not equate with finesse. 

The problem is that all those countries--even Sweden and Croatia, which have approximately 1/33rd and 1/70th our population--turn out more top-quality midfielders and offensive skill players than we do. 

Sure, we might be doing better with this particular squad under another manager, but we're stuck in second tier until we develop a Zlatan Ibrahimovic or Luka Modric.  

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Yeoman

November 21st, 2016 at 10:26 PM ^

There's been no American Maldini or Cannavaro and we're a long, long way from having a soccer culture that could produce that type of player. (I was just talking about this with an Italian friend and he was lamenting the fact that Italy's culture has drifted away from this too.)

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FatGuyTouchdown

November 22nd, 2016 at 12:08 AM ^

Hiring Bruce Arena would be like Michigan after the Rich Rod-Hoke hirings just going back to Lloyd Carr. I could be wrong because i really only started watching soccer in 2006, but man it seems uninspired.

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