Week 7: Best thing you saw...

Submitted by mi93 on

What nearly ended up with being the fans of the clear #2 team in the land didn't end up quite so, but a very entertaining week.

- Tennesse (and Ole Miss) finally gets the door shut on them as pretender

- NC State and Wisc nearly pulled off upsets (as did Indiana)

- Sparty goes down again

- Ohio looks mortal, as does Clemson

The best things for me this week, though, are:

- the safety by Northwestern - one of the best, cleanest hits on a QB you'll ever see, and with tremendous authority as MSU's QB was horizontal immediately after the hit - the definition of a 'de-cleater'

- this article... http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/16/sports/ncaafootball/houston-cougars-t… ... coaching, like leadership, at every level is about teaching and caring; winning is only a result, of good teaching and building believers amongst the team, the team, the team...the article struck an interesting chord with me

What you got?

StephenRKass

October 16th, 2016 at 7:02 AM ^

Seeing how vulnerable OSU is was the highlight for me. I really don't mind that they won. But I have to believe that JH et al are going to look at the tape of that game and it is going to help them. Both in offensive play calling, and in what the defense does (against OSU).

At this point,

  • I think Clemson will lose to FSU, but even without the loss, they fall behind us.
  • MSU and ND have already been terrible. Wanting more just is piling on to me.
  • Put Houston and Ole Miss in a similar category.
  • Tennessee has been exposed.

No matter what happens, Michigan controls their own destiny. The crummy thing about looking at other teams and counting on them to lose or win or do something is that you aren't looking at yourself and what you need to do yourself. If Michigan loses to OSU, than UM isn't there yet, and SHOULDN'T be in the playoffs.

In going back to my main point, I really hope that Michigan is very judicious in what they reveal to OSU over the next 5 games. Only reveal what you have to, and what you need to in order to sow doubt in their minds. I also hope that for the rest of the season, a significant amount of time, and some in practice each week, is given to prepping for OSU. I know all about coach speak. But cumong, look at the next 5 games. Are you really concerned about MSU? Iowa? Indiana? Maryland? (forget about Illinois. That's a foregone conclusion.) Yes, you have to throttle those teams, and can't overlook them or look past them. But IIRC, Bo was preparing for OSU every single week. I'm sure Harbaugh hasn't forgotten that. This is the critical year to beat OSU. 

  • It knocks them out of the playoff picture
  • It puts us in the playoff
  • We have a senior laden team, and could struggle more next year.
  • It evens the record between JH and Meyer.
  • OSU will have a lot of experience next year, and be harder to beat.

Jibbroni

October 16th, 2016 at 7:45 AM ^

OSU will be more seasoned on OL and DL next year, but they lose skill guys like Barrett and Samuels. Breaking in a new QB with them coming to AA next year is gonna help lessen any advantage in my mind. People here worry about next seasons depth too much. D line looks solid with Mone, Hurst, Gary, Onwenu, Marshall, Winovich, Dwumfour, etc. O-line should be good with Kugler, Newsome, Bredeson,Cole?, JBB. QB, TE and RB stables are full. Plus we've started to restock the WRs and LBs. Kinnel, Long, Hill, and Metellus in the secondary with maybe Clark? Rivalry games at home. I'm not as worried as others about this team going forward. Incoming fresh will be highly touted and pushing the sophs.



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DrMantisToboggan

October 16th, 2016 at 7:58 AM ^

I saw that, even with our small issues, we are clearly one of the best two teams in the country. We should move ahead of Clemson this week. We will move ahead of OSU when we beat them on November 26th. Not sure if I want Alabama to lose (my heart always does but I mean strategically) because that would make us the number two team in the playoff facing a number three, where as if we are number one the number four could be an Alabama that lost once to TAMU or LSU and snuck back in. Now if TAMU upsets Bama and runs the table I don't see Bama getting back in.

OSU is very mortal. Our defense will severely limit (not totally shut down they'll get a few plays) their run game. Then it's our secondary versus Barrett's passing game and that is a matchup you really have to like. It looks like our offenses are equally capable and our defense is clearly a step ahead. I like our team, Harbaugh, and the best player in college football to give us the edge.

Notre Dame and Michigan State might combine for 2 more wins? Maybe? They should beat Army and Rutgers, respectively, but that is it. They're both headed for 3-9 seasons and it's a great time to be alive.

Louisville might get back in to the playoff due to Clemson's shakiness, but they are also mortal. Don Brown can and has shut down Lamar Jackson in the past. Duke wins that game on Friday if they don't rough the kicker. Duke.

The PAC 12 is a nut house and Colorado might win it.



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LSAClassOf2000

October 16th, 2016 at 7:58 AM ^

If there was one important takeaway for me, it was probably that - OSU does look mortal, and that game provided me with a little hope even though they did pull out the win in overtime. 

Also, I did talk to a few Spartan friends who are at least hopeful that their younger players - some of whom did well yesterday - are the answer. Not this year, of course, but moving forward. Most of them seem to have given up on this year being in any way meaningful. 

Asilver21

October 16th, 2016 at 8:18 AM ^

Watching msu give up 54 at home to NW made my weekend. I live an hour north of Lansing around a bunch of Sparty's and hearing absolutely nothing from them (besides cussing) for the 4th straight week was great!!

Plus ND lost again!! Great bye Week!!

M Squared

October 16th, 2016 at 11:02 AM ^

Please stop repeating D'antoni's quote (yes, a saying derived from the Bible) as if he taught all of us a valuable lesson about life and humility.

The truth is that there are better and worse things in life.  Starting quarterback is a better position than back up quarterback.  President is a better position than vice president.  The University of Michigan is better than Michigan State University.  

The subtext to his quote is that between equals we possessed undeserved pride.  By repeating same, the subtext to your post is that balance has been restored and we are now equals again.  You settle for too little.  

Would you take a quote from your little brother and seethe for years to gain enough strength and stature so that one day you can re-use the quote back on him?  No.  We went through an unprecedented down period.  We got knocked down.  We stood back up.  There is no need to apologize for the natural order of things.

Your very username is "UMProud".  Be it.   

/endrant (and semi-tongue in cheek post)

 

bluewave720

October 16th, 2016 at 10:50 AM ^

on them if we have a chance.  I can totally see the postgame press conference where Harbaugh is asked why he went for two.

I keep imaging his response being something like: "I remember a while ago when we lost a real tough game.  A real tough one.  We had to watch the opposing team taunt our students and then one of the coaches taunted our fans.  He kept saying 'Where are all the Wolverines at?!?!"

"Well (motions over his shoulder as if to point to a scoreboard), I don't think anyone is going to wonder where the Wolverines were at today."

Perkis-Size Me

October 16th, 2016 at 8:45 AM ^

-Tennessee getting exposed was great, but whoever draws Alabama in the title game will have to play the game of their lives just to have a shot.

-MSU losing. It's great seeing the shoe on the other foot and watching them go down the toilet. But they know exactly what would save their season at this point, and that's beating us. They're out of the running for playing in any bowl game that matters, so beating us is all they've got left. We'd better be ready for anything that day. A lot of trickery and misdirection. Anything to keep us off balance. Dantonio is coming into that game with a brand-spanking-new playbook.

-ND losing. Because obviously.

-Hated seeing Wisconsin lose, but they did show that OSU is mortal, and they can be beaten.



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1VaBlue1

October 16th, 2016 at 8:45 AM ^

Best things:  The UW defense doing to OSU what they did to us.  That is what I've wanted to see for the last two weeks - just how good OSU's offense was against a legit defense.  And I didn't see them any better than UM's offense, although thier kicking game was better.  I also don't think the Badgers played as well - they missed a lot of tackles being too aggressive.  OSU was on the road, so that played against them.  But Michigan's defense is on a different level from UW's - and UW's is pretty friggen good.

I was surprised how well UW moved the ball on offense.  OSU's defense didn't impress me as much as I thought it would.  I feel good for a late Nov game...

The MSU/ND meltdown has been a joy to watch.  The train wreck that is Brian Kelly is really becoming unhinged.  I didn't think his job would be in jeopardy because of one poor season.  But he has really got to be embarrasing ND in the post-game pressers.  It's not a good look...

I think we jump Clemson, but don't see why we'd jump OSU.  They faced a challenge on the road and won it against a VERY good - and legit Top 10 - UW team.  Honestly, I'd keep UW in the Top 10 (ahead of Nebraska and just behind Clemson).

Another good thing - four B1G teams in the top 10, and they all looked good.  Indiana is a damn good team, and taking both OSU and UN to the limit proves it.  I'm kinda glad they didn't have this defense last year!

Bo Glue

October 16th, 2016 at 11:05 AM ^

That is the one game left on our schedule that really scares me. They're underrated, and it's right before what might be the second biggest game of Harbaugh's career to date (besides the Super Bowl, obviously). I think they have a real chance to upset us if JH and crew aren't careful. Then again, I do not believe Jim will let his dudes look past anyone.

SalvatoreQuattro

October 16th, 2016 at 12:50 PM ^

IU is not really that good. Defense is improved, but offense is significantly worse.

Their secondary is still atrocious and Legow is a turnover machine. They are a .500 year that lost at home to Wake Forest. They are not good.

They should have lost to MSU at home as well, but Sparty has rediscovered it's historical tendency to do dumb things at the worst possible time so IU won.

IU will be competitive, but UM should win by two-three touchdowns.



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BlueFront89

October 16th, 2016 at 8:54 AM ^

They were driving for the game winning FG with over a minute to go on Vandy's 40 and had a 3rd and 1. They run a pass play with Frosh QB Eason (reincarnation of Stafford complete with full cannon but no touch or accuracy and a penchant to throw into double coverage) and he misses an open receiver badly. On 4th and 1, they move their all-Conf RB Chubb to fullback and motion a 160lb slot receiver to tailback and run a toss sweep to the short side and he gets arm tackles for no gain. THAT could be the worst coaching decision of the weekend.

Njia

October 16th, 2016 at 8:57 AM ^

The user "Loose Stools" posted one of the best rants I've ever read. It's a great pick-me-up on a dreary, rainy Sunday morning.
Bump if you're a pussy and can't handle an off year at MSU You slap-dick, em'effing, pole-smoking, fudge-packing babies should have been around 20 years ago because you'd cut MD some slack. Choke on a bag o' dicks.
After getting a bit of contrary opinion, he follows up with:
Yep. Thanks, plenty of pussies. Lemme guess, you jack offs weren't born during the jls years? The Williams years? Get the sand out of your vags. No one is asking you to like it--just respect what md has given you.
I have to ask: would that win Scott Tenorman of the Week? Or Tears of Unfathomable Sadness?

michfan23

October 16th, 2016 at 9:09 AM ^

It's not football, but the Cubs winning game 1 of the NLCS.
In football, I'm going to resist trolling future opponents that we play on October 29 and November 26 until after we beat them.



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SD Larry

October 16th, 2016 at 9:47 AM ^

in East Lansing, winning by 2 TD's, shredding entire Sparty D except for McDowell.  Dabo needing to find a four leaf clover to win at home over NC State (even though he did find it gosh darn it).  

P.S.  Almost forgot, also Coach Harbaugh announcing Antioch High's Homecoming Queen (friday night yes, but saw on Saturday), followed up by his working another high school game chain gang on Saturday in Northern California.  Coach is a relentless recruiter for Michigan.

UMgradMSUdad

October 16th, 2016 at 10:08 AM ^

McDowell was completely unblocked on three plays that I saw, and it wasn't because he was stunting or moving around.  On one McDowell sack, the NW center just moved out of McDowell's way to double team another rusher, leaving an open path to the QB right up the middle. McDowell is very good, but NW's OL mistakes made him look even better.