OT: Hardest class at U-M?

Submitted by 1974 on

I saw the "Easiest class at U-M?" post and thought that some might find the opposite question interesting.

My hardest class? "Dynamics of Mechanical Systems" I think it was M.E. 340. That (and M.E. 240, come to think of it) just didn't "click" for me. Interestingly, most of my classmates did not share my opinion. They typically chose Fluids or Heat Transfer.

My easiest? A 100-level (Social) Psychology course. It was interesting and almost laughably easy. I took it during my senior year.

96goblue00

April 7th, 2016 at 11:54 PM ^

I ended up with two Ws on my transcript because i was truly scared these two classes would wreck me GPA. I should have bailed early on. P chem was a bruiser from the start. I think the test averages were in the low 40s in that class.

pfholland

April 7th, 2016 at 11:52 PM ^

For sheer workload EECS 427 (VLSI Design) was the worst for me. It was because of that class that I learned sleep deprivation could cause visual hallucinations.

pfholland

April 8th, 2016 at 11:49 AM ^

My team had the added bonus of one member disappearing after the second week, so all the work had to be done by three of us.  That semester I averaged 50 to 60 hours a week just for that one class.  I learned a ton about the proper way to go about design though, especially aoout the importance of verifying a design before building it.

I had the printout of our chip professionally framed and still have it in my office 15+ years later.

EECS 570 was also a ton of work, but that was because of the project my partner and I chose.  I don't think it was worse than 427 because there weren't weekly deadlines, which made it much less stressful. That was the semester I virtually lived on the third floor of the Media Union.  I kept a pillow and a coffee maker next to a computer for the entire semester.

pescadero

April 8th, 2016 at 12:40 PM ^

We actually had 5 team memebers - but we told one to go away and not do anything because he was sooo worthless.

 

Luckily my team was full of VLSI guys - one had worked the previous summer at Intel and ended up there after graduation, I ended up at Intel, one is high up at Apple (after working at National and several chip startups), and one is at AMD after going through HP/Marvel/and a couple other chip houses.

 

What also made 427 interesting was the competitive aspect of it - it's a class that counts for graduate credit, so my class was about half undergrads and hald graduate students.

JamieH

April 8th, 2016 at 12:24 AM ^

Was it Physics 242?  Whichever one where they are constantly asking you the questions about the guys with flashlights standing on trains travelling .84 times the speed of light.

 

I was ok in that class until about the last third of the semester, at which point I became completely and utterly lost.  I still have no idea what was on the final.  I wrote down a bunch of random equations and numbers and failed it pretty miserably.  Still managed to pass because I was doing OK up to that point but wow I was confused. 

SBayBlue

April 8th, 2016 at 12:30 AM ^

Taught by Sidney Fine. He was a legend that only missed teaching 3 classes in 40 years. The man knew his stuff and was one of the professors in a Michigan commercial during our football games. Lots of reading and I mean a lot. (I was a history major). Got a D+ on the first exam, a B on the second and got an A in the class by writing the second best final out of 475 students. I think I enjoyed and learned more in that class than any other class I took, including at my MBA program. Of course compared to Organic, Biochem and the engineering classes, might not have been so hard.

FlossDiligently

April 8th, 2016 at 1:30 PM ^

Bram is a super nice guy - I had him for Aero 225 and he clearly had forgotten how to teach anything at an undergraduate level.

I don't  know if I came across anything that held a candle to Aero 525 with Werner Dahm, back before he went to go run the Air Force, or whatever it is he does these days. By the end of the class only Werner Dahm had any idea what was going on.

Uneducated Undergrad

April 8th, 2016 at 12:41 AM ^

As a current undergrad, the hardest class that I am aware of is the Japanese Intensives. Each are 10 credit classes, which means one hour of discussion and one hour lecture five times a week, mandatory three times a week Japense-only lunch tables, and the final exams are each a week long. Oh and taken over the course of two semesters for 20 credits total. From what I've heard they are ridiculously hard but whoever survives will speak Japanese very well.

We are back

April 8th, 2016 at 1:02 AM ^

I guess this doesn't count as a class but, taking the GMAT then waiting to hear from admissions if I got into Ross or not was killer the anxiety made me sick to my stomach. I don't ever want to go through that again!



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Michigan Arrogance

April 8th, 2016 at 1:15 AM ^

Cosmochemisty in the Astro dept

Chem 1, after about a month in, including the 1cr lab which I had on Fridays 1-5. No partners, no chairs in that lab.

Statistical physics was the only W I had at mich- that prof was from Stanford and the book was copyrighted 1968- no diagrams, nothing.

Quantum 2 was also brutal.

I doubled up taking intermed mech and e&m in the physics dept one semester and that was a bad idea although either class alone wasn't the most difficult class.

Really, the Chem and the stats always gave me the most difficulty. The calc sequences were easy, the more calc I took the easier it got. Also linear algebra was pretty easy. Not sure why those math classes are polarizing in terms of difficulty for people: either easy brutal, no in. Between.



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Luminous

April 8th, 2016 at 2:11 AM ^

For me it is probably EECS 381.  The content wasn't hard to understand, but the workload was immense for a 4 credit course.  On top of taking Introduction to Cryptography and a total of 16 credit hours while doing job interviews, I was completely swamped for my last term.

Esterhaus

April 8th, 2016 at 2:25 AM ^

 

I found it *very hard* throughout the entire semester. Especially seated next to my lab partner, Muffy The Perfect Ten.

Seriously though, invariant classes do not exist in actuality. Something I learned in a very hard quantitative course that, in fact, was not actually nomered Boner 101.

Peace out.

Monocle Smile

April 8th, 2016 at 2:33 AM ^

with Bernstein. Mostly because he apparently makes it a personal goal to slaughter undergrads with nutty math.

Electric Propulsion in grad school was largely a practice in "wtf is this," but the exams typically went okay.

Ann Harbaugh

April 8th, 2016 at 3:18 AM ^

I think it is all about perspective, I thought Orgo 1 and Calc 3 were tough. I would go to class and not understand it and then I know people where that material clicks and they think it is relatively easily and so it is all who is taking the classes.

jackw8542

April 8th, 2016 at 5:18 AM ^

The professor bragged that it was the hardest course offered by the University.  As I recall, it was Physics 405.  He said that as long as we attended every class we would get at least a C.  It may be the only class I never missed (and happily took my C).

gwkrlghl

April 8th, 2016 at 5:19 AM ^

I had no programming experience and it was my 1st semester at Michigan so I had the combo of the long hours and the reality quickly settling in that high school prepared me very little for Michigan. That class killed me. But it ended up being one of my favorites because you learn so much and it teaches you a whole other line of thinking.

VAGenius

April 8th, 2016 at 5:43 AM ^

First semester freshman year I took 3rd semester Calculus Honors. Nothing but proofs, graded on a curve. I recall a test where 27/100 was the high score.

Quickly learned that I wasn't the big fish in the High School pond anymore... And that I was out of my league math-wise.

Hard class but a great life lesson... Became a Philosophy major instead.