OSU/MSU ranked #1 and #2 in new AP Poll

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(###) Number of first place votes
 
1 Ohio State
Ohio State (42)
Record: 3-0
PV Rank
1
Points
1,490
2 Michigan State
Record: 3-0
4
1,415
3 TCU
Record: 3-0
3
1,345
3 Mississippi
Record: 3-0
15
1,345
5 Baylor
Record: 2-0
5
1,213
6 Notre Dame
8
1,183
7 Georgia
Record: 3-0
7
1,162
8 LSU
LSU (1)
Record: 2-0
13
1,088
9 UCLA
Record: 3-0
10
981
10 Florida State
Record: 3-0
9
953
11 Clemson
Record: 3-0
11
903
12 Alabama
Record: 2-1
2
882
13 Oregon
Record: 2-1
12
855
14 Texas A&M
Record: 3-0
17
798
15 Oklahoma
Record: 3-0
16
782
16 Arizona
Record: 3-0
20
488
17 Northwestern
Record: 3-0
23
469
18 Utah
Record: 3-0
21
439
19 USC
Record: 2-1
6
367
20 Georgia Tech
Record: 2-1
14
352
21 Stanford
Record: 2-1
41
288
22 Wisconsin
Record: 2-1
24
174
22 Brigham Young
19
174
24 Oklahoma State
Record: 3-0
25
149
25 Missouri
Record: 3-0
22
135

Others Receiving Votes:

Mississippi St. 52, West Virginia 48, Tennessee 45, California 38, Toledo 36, Arizona St. 25, Houston 22, Auburn 20, Temple 20, Texas Tech 20, Boise St. 17, Miami 13, Iowa 10, Kansas St. 8, Florida 7, NC State 5, Minnesota 4, Virginia Tech 4, Memphis 1

 
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I Like Burgers

September 20th, 2015 at 3:24 PM ^

Look at the schedules.  Ohio State has Western, Indiana, Maryland, Penn State, and Rutgers before they release the first rankings (Nov. 3rd).  That's a nice slate of cupcakes to work out any kinks against.

I think the only way Sparty leapfrogs them is if Michigan beats BYU and Northwestern to wind up a top 15'ish team going in to that MSU game, and then Sparty beats Michigan soundly at home.

I'd put my money on Ohio State figuring things out against a bunch of cupcakes.

And lol at Georgia being a clear No. 1.

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drzoidburg

September 20th, 2015 at 3:30 PM ^

Agree and once people figure this out and start giving the polls the total disrespect they deserve, the networks will demand the playoff committee meets every week beginning in july and to give gary daniels and brent musburger veto power Cause the last thing they'll do is require the poll voters to actually watch the games

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Ty Butterfield

September 20th, 2015 at 2:54 PM ^

Bad part of some of the early upsets is that Staee gets an easy road to the playoff. Just like their easy NCAA basketball brackets. Michigan never gets these lucky breaks. What a joke.

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CLord

September 20th, 2015 at 2:57 PM ^

Couldn't care less since it's only September and our team is improving (except perhaps for Rudock's ability to find receivers beyond 8 yards downfield).  All I care about is how Harbaugh plans to respond to the same defensive gameplan Sparty has used against us for almost a decade:

8.5 in the box
Massive pass rush
DBs crashing the  backfield from the edges

I'll be very disappointed if I don't see a major adjustment by our staff and instead we see a stat line of 40 yards rushing coupled with 6 sacks, 2 fumbles and 1 pick by Rudock due to all the pressure. 

Coach just has to find a way to make Sparty pay for all of that hyper-D aggression it has gotten away with for years, and the saddest part is the best way to do so requires what appears to be the one thing our QB can't do - burn defenses over the top...

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MichiganMAN47

September 20th, 2015 at 4:44 PM ^

I am actually optimistic that we can handle MSU this year. Here's why: 1. Better pass blocking- the o-line has been giving Rudock a lot of time, and did particularly well against Utah, who has a well regarded pass rush. 2. TE/ FB usage. This will make MSUs LBs have to to respect the middle of the field. We've had no such threat the last few years. 3. Deep passes. Rudock has been BARELY missing a lot of these, and the WRs are getting open. MSU is taking risks if they play man. 4. Screens. I can't remember the last time we ran competent WR screens, but we do it quite well. MSU will have to figure out how to keep us from having success here.

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CoverZero

September 20th, 2015 at 2:58 PM ^

Good for the B1G...but no way is Sparty the #2 team in the country.

The Fall will hit them hard...they are a 3-4 loss team before its all over.  Mark that Down.

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Perkis-Size Me

September 20th, 2015 at 3:12 PM ^

I'll have what you're having. And can we make it a double?

I could see MSU going undefeated this year, especially with the sloppy play OSU has been displaying the last 2 weeks. Would they beat Ole Miss? Not sure, but I'd absolutely peg them as a top 4 team right now. Not sure what they've shown you that makes you think they'll lose 3-4 games in the Big Ten this year.



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gwkrlghl

September 20th, 2015 at 5:57 PM ^

Please tell me what 3-4 teams on MSU's schedule even have a prayer of beating them

 

CMU
Purdue
@Rutgers
@Michigan
Indiana
@Nebraska
Maryland
@OSU
Penn State

Michigan State is going to throttle every one of the those teams except OSU and maybe Michigan and Nebraska. It would be shocking if they finished with more than 2 losses

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Danwillhor

September 20th, 2015 at 3:04 PM ^

could be Ole Miss over msu. At this point in the year you can't unseat #1 for a bad win and msu hasn't done anything to fall. I think Ole Miss would beat msu (maybe both) but you can't really debate this right now.

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Avant's Hands

September 20th, 2015 at 3:13 PM ^

This is the kind of thinking that makes me wish polls were illegal until October sometime. Last year does not get you anything this year. Poll position is based on what you do this year. OSU has not deserved the #1 ranking this year. People act like its heresy to make them drop a few spots because other teams look clearly better. There is no valid argument where Ole Miss is not #1 based on what has happened this year.

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JayMo4

September 20th, 2015 at 3:37 PM ^

This.  I think that the preseason poll is the last time that 1.  Anything that happened last year should count for anything and 2.  That the polls should be a prediction of how the voters expect things will play out in the end.

Once games have been played, we should be ranking teams exclusively based on what we've seen on the field.  This whole idea of "I can't drop a team for playing poorly because they didn't lose so they don't deserve it," is silly.  Their spot in the poll isn't some birthright.  It's based on educated (hopefully) guesses made over the summer.  If a team that was ranked lower has looked better to date, move them ahead.  If future games prove that you were wrong to move that team up, guess what, you can vote in the next poll to move them back down again.  That's the great thing about these polls:  They're voted on every week, giving you the opportunity to change your mind as new data comes in.  Unfortunately, very few voters are willing to change their minds (see Auburn receiving votes.)

I didn't think Mississippi was #1 in the preseason.  I don't think they will finish that way in January.  But I'll vote them #1 right now because they have the best win in the country so far, and I am not going to pretend OSU looks better than they do based on last season or the fact that I had them #1 in August.

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drzoidburg

September 20th, 2015 at 3:57 PM ^

they won't ever do it this way since it will make the preseason polls so ridiculous not even the dying newspapers would print them. You'd have teams falling 15 spots for a "bad win" and jumping 15 for an "impressive" win over a mid major, since in week 1 that's all there is to go by

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CarolinaWolverine

September 20th, 2015 at 3:16 PM ^

9 years ago when Bo was still alive and UM was marching toward an 11-0 start before that epic matchup with OSU, WHO among us would have predicted that by 2015, OSU and MSU would be 1 and 2?  At that time, we were aware (but not fully aware) of some poor recruiting by Lloyd that would come up and bite us by 2008 but I, at least, felt that UM would be fine anyway and MSU would still be languishing in mediocrity.  Instead we've become mediocre.  Please Harbaugh...little help?

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snarling wolverine

September 20th, 2015 at 3:28 PM ^

Carr's recruiting didn't seem poor at the time.  His 2005 class was ranked #6 by Rivals; his 2006 class ranked #13; and his 2007 class, which he was in the process of recruiting that fall, was ranked #12.

The main long-term concern at the time was over who would succeed Carr whenever he would decide to retire.  

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CarolinaWolverine

September 20th, 2015 at 4:31 PM ^

My general feeling at the time was that the recruiting was in a downward trajectory (fewer players each year were becoming difference-makers) although I was (and am still not) any sort of recruiting devotee/expert.  I'd been watching M football since the mid-seventies (student in the early 80s and 86 grad) and I feel my football knowledge is/was decent enough to have a valid opinion.  

I do remember wondering who would follow Carr; my disgust with his and his staff's conservative play-calling and gameplans made it hard for me to want any of his assistants.  I also remember when RR was hired I thought he couldn't miss and we'd dominate in the years to come, oops.

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