UMxWolverines

December 4th, 2014 at 11:25 PM ^

I would have to say at that point Jim gave us a dose of reality that pretty much everyone chose to ignore until recently because the arrogance was in full force at that time. Nevermind about a month later all that arrogance came crashing down and hasn't been the same since. 

I would say the ''I wish he had never played here'' comment was way out of line especially by Hart. 

Joined: 03/01/2009

MGoPoints: 65642

Danwillhor

December 5th, 2014 at 1:20 AM ^

I hated his arrogance. I said this even before the little brother comment. He may hold the record for most shit talking to backing it up. osu? He played them well a single time (06) but even when shut down he'd constantly talk shit. I cringed the second I heard his lil brother speech. Cringed. He talked shit in The Horror, Horror 2, a Minnesota upset (IIRC, if not minny then anther scrub team), etc. The one game he largely kept his mouth shut and baked out was his very last when he fumbled more times at the 1 yard line then he fumbled in a two year average. Love Mike but I wished he had the Barry humility to go with the number, occasional similar move, ball security, lack of top end speed over quickness and productivity.

Joined: 12/02/2008

MGoPoints: 8608

Mr. Yost

December 5th, 2014 at 5:08 AM ^

And that was 7 years ago..

I think we can stop passing judgement on his character now. Especially since maybe a handful of people on this board actually know the man and he hasn't said anything even controversial (to my knowledge) in quite some time.

Braylon on the other hand...has a 6 month timer before he says something about Michigan football and/or athletics.

Yet people want to bash Hart over and over and call him arrogant and again, to my knowledge, he hasn't even said anything to warrant those comments.

Joined: 07/25/2011

MGoPoints: -9898225

mgobluebraelow

December 5th, 2014 at 3:04 AM ^

To be honest I'm not sure what being a famous alum has to do with it.  The idea is to hire the best coach, not the most popular one.  And I would argue that Loeffler's coaching credentials at the time were better than Harbaugh's.  By 2002 he'd already strung together a very impressive resume: Griese, Brady and Henson.  Furthermore, success as a player does not guarantee success as a coach.

Joined: 08/20/2010

MGoPoints: 976

TESOE

December 4th, 2014 at 10:44 PM ^

It didn't used to be this hard.  We used to experience our failures at the hands of worthy opponents and blind referees.  For too long we have wallowed in our own gridiron internecine poison.  

Please make it stop.  Someone who can manage a game clock, inspire a teenager to become a student athlete and be good at football.  It's a crazy train.

Joined: 09/21/2009

MGoPoints: 8536

turd ferguson

December 4th, 2014 at 10:41 PM ^

Come on, this is easy to say in hindsight, but Scott Loeffler has a really good record as QB coach.  I mean, he's 40 years old and his Wikipedia page includes this line:

Loeffler was the college quarterbacks coach to future NFL Draft picks Tom Brady, Tim Tebow, Brian Griese, Chad Henne, Drew Henson, John Navarre, and Logan Thomas. The players have started over 300 regular-season NFL games and garnered a combined four Super Bowl rings as pros.

Harbaugh probably would have been a better hire, but if we're being fair it's hard to complain about Carr hiring Loeffler.

 

Joined: 12/09/2009

MGoPoints: 26493

GoBLUinTX

December 4th, 2014 at 11:26 PM ^

Harbaugh was hired by the Oakland Raiders to be their QB coach.

Show of hands, who sees an NFL position coach job as second choice to the same job in the NCAA?  

How did that conversation go?  Gee, Coach Carr, I was really hoping to help that young statue you have, John Navarre...guess I'll go slum with Oakland and see if I can help Rich Gannon and the team get to a Super Bowl.

Joined: 12/02/2013

MGoPoints: 5895

michgoblue

December 4th, 2014 at 10:35 PM ^

Lloyd Carr took us to our only national championship in 60+ years, something that even Bo couldn't do. His career wining percentage, stewardship of our program and overall dedication to Michigan (as well as numerous charities) give him a right to talk and not to be told to "shut up" by some random internet poster. And, he is saying exactly the same thing as everyone on here and virtually every media person. So how is he sabotaging this?

Joined: 11/16/2009

MGoPoints: 32198

xcrunner1617

December 4th, 2014 at 10:37 PM ^

"Everyone has an opinion, and I am no different," Carr said Thursday. "If I had a choice, I would choose Jim Harbaugh. But it will be Jim Hackett's decision, and that is as it should be."

Thats literally all he said when asked his opinion on the coaching search. Maybe you need to turn off your cell/computer if thats how you are going to react when a former coach provides a rationale answer to something he was asked. 

Joined: 02/11/2009

MGoPoints: 1569

BeantownBlue

December 4th, 2014 at 10:44 PM ^

I don't think you get why people are happy about this.  This was a symbolic gesture.  Yeah, it doesn't secure Harbaugh but it lets him and everyone know that he is publicly welcome and that Hackett can pursue him without reservation. It also seems to indicate (considering Carr's ties to Griese and Debord) that they are very much on the Harbaugh trail.

 

Joined: 08/25/2008

MGoPoints: 1744

I Wrote a 4 Wo…

December 4th, 2014 at 10:23 PM ^

Just playing devil's advocate for a second...

I am hoping for Harbaugh. I don't think he's already said no and I don't think Michigan is not a possibility.

That said, what if he and Carr have not "made up." And what if Carr said this publicly as a way to piss Harbaugh off? I only say that because NO ONE else in the department has said something like that and Harbaugh has been quiet on the possibility as well.

I had read, and believed, that the two have buried the hatchet and are on good terms now.

However right when I read these public comments I thought immediately of Kirk Herbie announcing that Les Miles was going to be named the coach.



Sent from MGoBlog HD for iPhone & iPad

Joined: 08/25/2009

MGoPoints: 1845