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So when Michigan goes 15-0,

So when Michigan goes 15-0, how many losses does ND need?

I got negbombed to hell when

I got negbombed to hell when I wrote this the summer after his freshman year, but it seems my last paragraph came to pass almost exactly as I hoped.

 

http://mgoblog.com/mgoboard/am-i-only-one-who-isnt-fan-tate

Well Pro coach or an NCAA

Well Pro coach or an NCAA coach with a bowl game that is too big to bolt from.

Part of the hype is Beilein

Part of the hype is Beilein getting the benefit of the doubt. I mean going into last year did anybody really think Nik Stauskas would be drafted higher than Trey Burke? I loved Stauskas as a freshman but #8 overall is insane improvement -- all hail Coach B!

Rape -- Gibbons

Rape -- Gibbons

Intimidation of rape victim -- Lewan

Fights -- Lewan, York

Home Invasion -- Clark

"Wins and Losses are just a statistic" -- Funchess

"The Michigan Brand is strong" -- Bolden channelling his inner Dave Brandon even though our team is a fucking embarassment

"We're going to run college football" -- Drake Harris even though he is terrible and the team hasn't done a damn thing since he came here

And pretty much every player who has been shifting blame from themselves and the coaching staff onto the fans. Passing the buck in the most cowardly way possible.

Totally agree. At least the

Totally agree. At least the 3-9 Threet/Sheridan years had some players who looked like they gave a crap. This team is not just an embarassment on the field, but most of these guys are totally unlikeable off the field as well. Arrogant as shit and an absolute disgrace to the game of football.

Can't wait to hear the players blame the fans again for lack of support while they and the coaching staff shit the bed yet again.

Worse than Denard? I mean

Worse than Denard? I mean Threet, Sheridan, Forcier, Gardner, Morris, Bellomy all come to mind.

It's sort of ironic, because

It's sort of ironic, because I completely support the players and not the coaches like you said. But irritating things like this and the Brian Cleary rant are making me support the players less. I'm still in full support of them but their "nobody believes in us" attitude acting like we are all fairweather fans who have abandoned them is actually starting to drive a wedge between the fanbase and current players -- at least it is for me.

Hopefully we hire Gordon Gee

Hopefully we hire Gordon Gee to fire Brandon and hire Tressel in an ultimate OSU troll move.

The problem with this is how

The problem with this is how you know someone's intentions when they sign up:

Scenario A: Someone get diagnosed with a disease that may require bone marrow, signs up before needing a transplant, then says they are registered and deserves the transplant. This person only registered to get the service.

Scenario B: Someone signs up and coincidentally gets diagnosed with a disease shortly thereafter. They need a bone marrow transplant now too, and had good intentions, so making you be active on the list for donators for X amount of time before you are allowed to receive seems like it would screw these people.

Seems just about any law would allow people to circumvent the rules, and for something as serious are requiring bone marrow people will put a lot of time and effort into circumventing the rules.

Definitely happy to see this

Definitely happy to see this guy banned, however I do think punishments in the sports world are VERY inconsistent with the rest of life.

For instance, Ron Artest went after fans in the stands and was not banned for life. Is being a racist sack of shit worse than physically assaulting helpless fans (the wrong ones at that)? I don't know. The McGary punishment in the NCAA had me thinking about what sports model I would prefer to see in college in terms of punishments and it seems like in MLB, NBA, and NFL you can get away with a lot more shady crap but the second you are not PC or get caught with PEDs your career is ruined.

Just doesn't make sense to me.

I wasn't a soccer hater

I wasn't a soccer hater before but after reading all that buildup for a "highlight goal" that wasn't even momentarily exciting I think I might become one.

A point a minute is easy....

A point a minute is easy.... that's only 40 points. Two points a minute is harder.

The degree vs no degree issue

The degree vs no degree issue is one thing, but the fact that he's willing to lie on a resume probably means he's willing to do shady stuff to get ahead with his basketball program too. So I wouldn't be pleased about that.

In terms of Beilein, if he was a new hire then definitely would not accept him. It's definitely harder to make the call if he has already been a successful coach at your school for a number of years. Basically if I'm USF I definitely wouldn't take the guy but if I'm Manhattan I might try to reach a compromise where he finishes out his degree this summer before the next season starts (if he really attended UK for 4 years he must be close to finishing his degree).

The only losses I could see

The only losses I could see so far are the @Duke, Home vs. Wisc, and BTT game. Probably lose at least 1 maybe 2 of those games. No way do we lose to Charlote, @Indiana, or @Iowa. I don't think we would have lost @Iowa State either considering much of the reason we lost that was due to figuring ourselves out still.

I'd actually say that's OSU

I'd actually say that's OSU for now -- they went to a Final Four and an Elite Eight whereas we got knocked out in the first round and made the Championship game. I think if we do well this year and they stumble we could take the lead in this regard.

2 seed plays 3 seed in the

2 seed plays 3 seed in the Sweet 16. This wouldn't affect your logic for UM vs Duke but would affect other scenarios.

I have no idea how someone

I have no idea how someone could not have figured that out until today and yet still be smart enough to turn on a computer.

Huh? UVA is going to get a #2

Huh? UVA is going to get a #2 seed, so you're THAT confident they will lose to a #7 seed? Look I'm not saying UVA is the greatest team ever, but I would say they at least have a really good chance of making the sweet 16. I don't think they will make the Final Four but missing the second weekend would be surprising.

I personally wouldn't rank

I personally wouldn't rank THJ 2nd either but I don't think it's that farfetched especially if you are projecting how good he can be later down the line. His game is translating far better in the NBA than it ever did in college, and he is coming off the bench and not getting starters minutes. He has been extremely impressive this year. It's kind of crazy that a guy I would've thought was about our 4th best player last year (behind Burke, McGary, GR3) is a guy you can reasonably say is performing in the top-5 rookies in the NBA this year.

My favorite part of this vlog

My favorite part of this vlog was him talking about how you've got to earn everything in life and nobody cares what you did in highschool. How many top-5 overall recruits come into college talking about earning their way? Not many I would guess. As much as I would like to think of myself as a humble guy, if the entire world is telling you that you're the best, a 5-star, future all american, etc, I probably would get a really big ego. Crazy how mature this guy is for an 18 year old.

No.... don't turn down any

No.... don't turn down any bowl, we CLEARLY need the extra practices. I don't give a damn about honor, I care about getting better for next year. We're one decent OC away from being a good football team.

On the plus side, he's going

On the plus side, he's going to get hit every play regardless of what we call.....might as well gain a few yards!

Smot is listed at 6'8".

Smot is listed at 6'8". Pretty big difference between that and 7 foot in the NBA.

Agreed. The bye week before

Agreed. The bye week before State, the time before the South Carolina bowl game, the time before the Alabama opener......

I wasn't there but I was

I wasn't there but I was personally happy when I heard the stadium boo-ing on TV. Sorry if that makes me a dick, but I have to be honest. I don't want the kids playing to be boo'd, but I think the playcall boos are completely acceptable. I have no faith that Hoke or DB will fire Funk/Borges unless it becomes unavoidable due to loud boos and negative PR. It sucks that recruits have to hear it but honestly I care about what's happening on gameday not our recruiting -- our classes in the past have all been top-20 except for RR's last year, so don't give me the BS about no talent on this team. Stars mean jack shit when you are 7-6 or 8-5 every year.

Texas & USC both rebounded

http://www.texassports.com/schedule.aspx?path=football

http://www.usctrojans.com/sports/m-footbl/sched/usc-m-footbl-sched.html

Texas won 5 in a row, USC won 3 out 4 and were competitive in their loss at ND. Major programs with the balls to fire a Coordinator or a HC mid-season. I see no reason why Borges or Funk should continue to be employed starting tonight. We just lost to a Nebraska team at home that is probably the least talented in the division given all of their injuries.

First of all, I'm not

First of all, I'm not defending Borges or Funk. I think they are both doing a terrible job. But I don't like when people just post statistics without any real analysis which is the bigger issue I have with this post.

Is losing to Toledo 13-10 or Ohio State 42-7 an accomplishment because we scored a TD? I donno, even though the game was horrible its nice to at least be bowl eligible consistently which is something Rodriguez only managed in 33% of his seasons (if we're going to bring up ridiculously small sample sizes) compared to Hoke's 100% rate.

I have no doubt that Braylon/MM/Terrell all would've done much better against MSU than this UM team did yesterday, but I think their win rates over time would've been lower. When you post MSU/OSU win percentages, but MSU had a garbage team since the late 80s it makes it look like you're accomplishing a great deal more than you are. The reality is we beat OSU occasionally and MSU consistently, hence the 60-65% win rate against those rivals. If MSU's team was as good as the current MSU teams are, I bet it would've looked a lot closer to 50% win rate against rivals (losing a little more often to OSU and a little less often to MSU).

Who knows what's going to happen the rest of the year. Obviously Michigan will be huge underdogs to OSU, but they are undefeated at home and you always have a shot (that's why the games are played). If by some miracle Michigan pulls out a win against OSU then Hoke will be 3-3 against MSU/OSU and 2-1 against Notre Dame in his 3 years. Granted that doesn't seem extremely likely, but at least let the 3rd year finish before looking at 2-3 game sample sizes.

Sample size is way too small

Sample size is way too small to draw conclusions. Obviously the offense is something none of us are happy about, but 2 of those 4 games were against a very elite MSU defense that let up 3 points and 0 points the two weeks prior.

Furthermore, the record against MSU/OSU needs a closer inspection. How many of the teams taht Moeller and Carr faced were legitimately good? MSU is legitimately very good, and was very good in 2011 as well. Neither of those losses were that surprising and I wouldnt be surprised if some of Carr/Moeller/Bo teams lost to the 2011 or 2013 versions of MSU on the road too.

For me personally Mattison

For me personally Mattison gets a pass, because he's proven what a great coach and recruiter he is. Mostly the coaching is what I care about, and he took an absolutely dreadful unit with basically all the same players and turned them around immediately into a top-25 defense. The defense has continued to be solid for his tenure at Michigan.

I think the reason many people are frustrated with Borges is that the offense has only gotten worse and worse since he's been here. It's not one bad game, its a bad pattern and doesn't show any signs of changing.

Holy shit, this is like

Holy shit, this is like finding a unicorn. I didn't think it existed, but we've found the 1 person in the entire world who is smart enough to turn on a computer yet dumb enough to actually need a /s tag to mark obvious sarcasm.

Agreed except for 1 major

Agreed except for 1 major gripe: the guy asking TomVH the questions mentioned that Hoke hasn't made a "BCS impact" when he was asking why recruits come (answer was family values of course). Granted, Michigan hasn't been in the title picture, but they won a BCS bowl in Hoke's first year. I'd say thats making a BCS impact considering he's only been here 2 years and year 3 looks to be poised for a good run.

Maybe I'm biased because I

Maybe I'm biased because I was an out of state student, but I wouldn't be surprised to see just the opposite (i.e. out of state students are more likely to attend). Not saying its definite, but a case can be made either way if we're just speculating.

My group of friends were primarily out of state, and we all attended every game because we were diehard fans. When an out of state student comes to Michigan, it's just as expensive as any college (private or public) in the country, so we really want to come for a variety of factors including the athletics/school spirit.

My theory is that although many of the in-state students are also diehards, there is a large faction of which picked Michigan simply because it is the best academic school in the state. If you cannot afford to leave the state and only care about academics, you will end up at Michigan. Since out of staters are already paying a small fortune, presumably they picked Michigan for a variety of factors rather than academics alone (otherwise we would have gone to UVA, Berkeley, etc. in our home states for cheaper).

This article tells me two

This article tells me two things:

1. ESPN isn't high on the #13 class (since they picked the 1st, 2nd, and 4th highest rated classes outside their top-10 for this column).

2. ESPN likes Cal and Iowa State.

Doesn't say too much about Marquette, Michigan, or BYU considering those were just the highest rated options they were allowed to use.

If you took off his hair in

If you took off his hair in that last picture he looks a LOT like Lovie Smith.

 

/HopeThatsNotRacist

Lol, I clicked that and some

Lol, I clicked that and some doofus actually told Spike "Final four watches are great but you have bigger fish to fry, big ten championship banner" etc.

Big ten championship is not valued more than a Final Four appearance. Ever.

That's not a pick and roll,

That's not a pick and roll, that's a pickle roll........

 

/godihatemyself

The NBA mainly cares about

The NBA mainly cares about potential, not accomplishments. Consider that Daniel Orton from Kentucky was a 1st round pick even though he was a one-and-done backup at Kentucky and barely played in college. These are his stats from his only season, yet was a first round draft pick:

 

Season GP MPG PPG FG% 3FG% FT% APG RPG BPG SPG
2009-10 38 13.2 3.4 52.7 0.0 52.4 0.4 3.3 1.4 0.6

Just in case thats hard to read, thats 13 minutes a game with 3 points, 3 rebounds, half an assist, 1.4 blocks. IN COLLEGE. Those are attrocious numbers even if you extrapolate them to a starter's minutes.

 

GR3's famous father doesn't hurt either, gives GMs an excuse to take a flier on him given his frame.

Just because they played in

Just because they played in the NBA doesn't mean they are still rich. We don't know anything about their familiy finances. Consider the following article (you can find a ton more by googling, this isnt the only source):

 

http://www.ballerstatus.com/2011/01/28/miami-heat-bail-out-tim-hardaway…

My final four is intact!

My final four is intact! That's why you always pick Michigan!! No way am I going to do well though, my final four is Duke, OSU, Michigan, Indiana with Michigan over OSU in the title game. I just picked a scenario that would make me laugh. Sparty left ouf of the Final 4 -- dong punched by Duke. Then Duke dong punched by OSU and Crean dong punched by Michigan so our coaching staff can laugh at him. Finally Michigan dong punching Craft in the championship game. Everybody is gettin their dong punched except us in my bracket!

If there was a perfect

If there was a perfect bracket we would've heard about it by now. First ever 15 seed to go to the Sweet 16, Zaga out early (although i had them losing to Pitt instead....[half credit?]). Harvard won too for the first time in over 50 years. A bunch of 11 and 12 seeds won and not the trendy one (Belmont). I sincerely doubt anybody is close to perfect.

I think you mean Kansas,

I think you mean Kansas, Flordia Gulf Coast, then two final four teams. #believe

Round of 32 maybe if they got

Round of 32 maybe if they got a 10 seed or higher. Sweet 16 though?? What? Based on what evidence......?

Minor quibble, but in the

Minor quibble, but in the article he says:

"The Wolverines disappointed three other teams that could have grabbed a share of the title, and now arrive at the Big Ten barbecue with a sheepish look, not sure if they owe an apology or deserve a payback."

Which isn't true. Although The Wolverines finished 5th, Wisconsin never had a shot at the title even with a Michigan win. It was two other teams they may have disappointed (although it seems more like 1.5 teams since half the Sparty fan base wasn't even disappointed to lose out on a title if it meant Michigan did too).

There's still a lot to play

There's still a lot to play for and I won't judge this season until March Madness is over.

That being said, it wasn't just last night that stung. It was a gut-punch combination of 4 of the 6 losses. I can live with convincing losses @ IU and @MSU. Our other 4 losses all just felt like heartbreakers:

1. Down 18 away and lose a close game with a rimmed-out 3 to tie it at the end. If the team comes out just a LITTLE less truly godawful at the start we win.

2. Lose on a hail mary half court shot that sends it to overtime. I know technically that shot was for a tie but with all the wind out of M's sails it basically was for the win.

3. Lose to Penn State. God knows how this happened. This wasn't Michigan/Toledo in that 3-9 year, because at least then we were a bad team too. This year's basketball squad IS good. Probably the equivalent of an 11-2 squad good in football. It would be like if 2006 Michigan lost to Indiana in football. Doesn't add up or make any sense.

4. Last night. Lose a 5 point lead in under a minute. Can't hit 1-and-1 freethrows with our two best players. Cant make bunny tip-ins. Cant make layups. Can't defend. Played awful for the first couple minutes (down 10-3) and the last 1 minute, and played amazingly for about 37 minutes in between. It hurts.

Any one of these losses I could chalk up to "Shit happens" but part of me feels like 3 of the 4 shouldn't have happened. If you take 3 of the 4 away we are 15-3 and either splitting the title with IU or winning it outright (if you take away game #4 as one of the 3 games, that puts IU at 14-4).

Agree that Minny is an enigma

Agree that Minny is an enigma but....our team just lost to 0-14 Penn State and then beat a top-10 Michigan State squad in the same week, followed by going up 15 then down 12 then comin back for a 5 point win over Purdue. We're as much of an enigma as any team this year.

There should be two

There should be two divisions: Michigan + OSU in one, and the other 12 teams in the other. Winner of the The Game plays in the Big Ten Championship every year against the best team from the rest of the bunch.

Obviously joking, but with OSU off of probation I bet that UM or OSU is in the title game at least 80% of the time anyway. My suggestion just cuts out all the bodybag games against Maryland and Indiana.

Yeah, the @OSU game too. If

Yeah, the @OSU game too. If we start out going down by just 15 instead of 18 which is still a huge hole, we win that game. This team is so close to having only losses @ MSU and @ Ind which would put them in incredibly good shape. Frustrating that losing @WISC and @OSU due to an incredibly unlikely halfcourt shot and an incredibly flat start are going to cost a banner.

I have no opinion on Hoke's

I have no opinion on Hoke's no-visit policy, but isn't this survey a little biased? Presumably the majority of people who don't like his no-visit policy decided not to come to Michigan -- thus their answer wasn't based on this result.

Although it would never happen, I'd be a lot more interested to see a survey of the top-100 targets (not commits) that Michigan was in on and see how they felt about the no-visit policy (and uniformz, etc). Might be interesting to see what factors steer kids away from Michigan too.

Burke speaks for himself and

Burke speaks for himself and THJ is great. THJ had one bad night last night (and frankly, if you're going to have a bad night, I'd rather it was during a 30 point loss than a 4-8 point loss. Even if Timmy was on last night and dropped in 15 we still get blown out).

My concern with this team is primarily GR3's complete disappearance (with Staukas's 3 point shooting recently a distant second). One minute he is 360 dunking on people and then he disappears during a critical 4 game stretch. Hope he gets his act together by March.