Zach Gentry to NFL Draft
January 1st, 2019 at 11:25 PM ^
Gentry was well respected by fans until the OSU game. Understandably fans were upset with his drops. No biggie
Gary was not solid for his entire career relative to his hype. His production was very low. He only had like 9 sacks for his career and he WAS NOT good against the run
Gary would over-pursue the QB and end up way too wide all the time which would leave gaping holes in our line
January 1st, 2019 at 11:40 PM ^
He had less than 50 career receptions. I think Gary was far more productive than Gentry. There are valid criticisms of Gentry (not the reactionary ones since OSU game), but almost every criticism I’ve seen of Gary the last three years have been ridiculous because people wanted him to get 10-15 sacks a year where that was never the type of player he was not was asked to be.
January 1st, 2019 at 11:49 PM ^
He had less than 50 career receptions.
Correct, he had 49.
Kind of nitpicking for a guy who was learning a new position and really only saw the field two years.
January 2nd, 2019 at 10:49 AM ^
You’re creating a strawman. I’ve never said Gentry was a bad player or not a good TE. Just saying that Gary was a more productive and impactful player than Gentry, which was the point of my initial post.
January 1st, 2019 at 11:58 PM ^
Gentry just had 500+ yards receiving which is a more productive year than Gary has had here
Nobody is asking for 15 sacks a year. He only had 9...NINE over 3 seasons. He was the #1 rated recruit so people expected more than that from him
For perspective, when Gary went down this year Uche got a boost in playing time and came in and had 7 sacks. Uche almost totaled Garys career sack total in barely half a seasons worth of snaps.
Gary was billed as being a game changing pass rusher for Michigan. He wasn't. He didn't live up to the hype. Gentry wasn't billed as some gam changing TE but he did end up being a good TE for us this year.
January 1st, 2019 at 11:46 PM ^
Yep.
Had one shit game and now he's a pariah to the MGoGroupThink crowd.
Good luck Zach.
January 1st, 2019 at 10:59 PM ^
Good comparison. Gary has a much lower floor.
Jimmy Graham could never block but has had a pretty productive career.
January 1st, 2019 at 10:55 PM ^
It’s weird though. Ebron dropped a ton in Detroit, now with Indy and catching from Luck he catches everything. Maybe just a new location will do him well. Sometimes it just is mental and once you catch several in a row, you don’t think about dropping it.
January 1st, 2019 at 11:49 PM ^
I could be wrong, but Ebron still has a relatively high drop rate comparative to the league. He is just being utilized a lot more because Luck loves TE's.
January 1st, 2019 at 10:56 PM ^
Which round?
January 1st, 2019 at 10:45 PM ^
Whew that’s a great decision good luck! He’ll probably go 5-6th round to the PATS!
January 1st, 2019 at 10:45 PM ^
This is baffling. He is not a good tight end. He can't block. He can't catch. He's just tall. I don't even care if he leaves because he's not good enough to care about.
Whoever counselled him to do this does not have his best interests at heart. I doubt he ever sees the field in the NFL.
January 1st, 2019 at 10:49 PM ^
Recency bias is why you're saying he can't catch. He caught some good balls from Shea this year too. Yes, some big drops vs OSU. On one of those, he literally got bashed in the head and he was trying to avoid the full force blow.
January 1st, 2019 at 11:08 PM ^
He took a big hit that I wonder if wasn't a glaring no-call.
January 1st, 2019 at 10:45 PM ^
Other than the questionable hands, below average blocking, and lack of physicality, he'll be a fine NFL tight end.
Or out of the league in 2 seasons. Good luck.
January 1st, 2019 at 10:46 PM ^
Thanks Zach, good luck, hope you get your shot.
Really would be great for the perception of the program if he does well.
January 1st, 2019 at 10:46 PM ^
Wish him luck. Should be a solid TE if he can be a bit more consistent.
January 1st, 2019 at 10:46 PM ^
Joseph Fauria.
January 1st, 2019 at 10:48 PM ^
Add another to the list of guys with extremely disappointing careers.
January 1st, 2019 at 10:57 PM ^
Wha? What was "extremely disappointing"? He was a converted QB with solid skills great height and scored some crucial TDs for us plus had a huge catch vs NW that led to full comeback. Wish him luck and a great NFL career.
January 1st, 2019 at 10:59 PM ^
I wouldn't say that. He had a rough day against OSU obviously, but still, he had over 500 receiving yards this year (at 16 YPC).
January 1st, 2019 at 11:22 PM ^
Sure. Was third on the team in catches and receiving yards the last two seasons. What a fucking loser.
Seriously...what the fuck is wrong with some of you people?
January 1st, 2019 at 11:55 PM ^
Classic sour grapes coping mechanism. The Rashan Gary announcement was chock full of the same shit. Most people lack the class to simply say, "Damn... we'll miss you... thanks for representing the maize and blue... good luck with your career, son"
January 1st, 2019 at 11:30 PM ^
How was his career disappointing?
He was converted to a TE and was actually very solid. I think you are overestimating the production that TE have in college.
Gentry had 514 yards this year which is good for about 12th in FBS for Tight Ends. And he did it in Harbaughs offense which restricts pass catchers abilities
January 1st, 2019 at 10:50 PM ^
Good for him. I don’t think he would get more targets next year. Had a bad game against OSU (join the club), but I’m sure he’ll work out well and a coach/GM will think they can coach his potential. He’ll be on a roster, and spoiler alert—his role won’t be blocking. As far as him being mad at the coaching staff—they put in hours and helped him get to the NFL. Whatever.
January 1st, 2019 at 10:53 PM ^
Good luck ZG. Hopefully he gets his degree in three years.
January 1st, 2019 at 11:13 PM ^
He has been here 4, and there is no rule saying he can’t go back and finish (if he’s not by the draft). His signing bonus should be enough.
January 1st, 2019 at 10:53 PM ^
Best of luck, Mr Gentry. You're better than how some of the haters on this board depict you and, despite struggling this year vs OSU, I have no doubt you gave your all for the Maize and Blue. I, for one, remember many a great catch and crucial play that you DID make for us.
Thanks for the hard work you put into transforming from a promising QB into a fine TE, all the while doing it for The Team, The Team, The Team while likely sacrificing your own dream of someday being an NFL QB.
May you avoid the Lions and tear it up in the NFL!
January 1st, 2019 at 10:56 PM ^
can we get Eubanks involved now please?
January 1st, 2019 at 11:07 PM ^
I love me some Eubanks but he has to start blocking better and stop false starting.
January 1st, 2019 at 11:14 PM ^
Or just put him in the slot instead of Bell or Perry.
January 1st, 2019 at 10:56 PM ^
I can't believe we never got to see him throw a single pass in a meaningful game.
:(
January 1st, 2019 at 11:04 PM ^
Remember when they would put Peppers in at wildcat QB and all he ever did was keep it? Everyone kept saying wait until the TUOS game, he will throw it, or there will be reverses/other wrinkles.
And all he ever did was keep it.
January 1st, 2019 at 10:58 PM ^
Lol! Fare thee well.
January 1st, 2019 at 11:05 PM ^
Well. Bye.
January 1st, 2019 at 11:06 PM ^
Good luck. Thanks for playing in the bowl.
January 1st, 2019 at 11:06 PM ^
I always wondered why we didn't use Gentry on trick plays where he catches a bubble screen then throws out of it. He obviously can throw, right? And he has the option to run. Fuck, why didn't I email that one to Pep?
January 1st, 2019 at 11:07 PM ^
Is there a chance he doesn’t even get drafted?
January 1st, 2019 at 11:27 PM ^
100% he get's drafted. Not even a question. 6'8 260 runs a 4.6. Will kill the combine. My guess is as high as 3rd round and latest 5th. You don't wait on draft info and still leave if you are in question of being drafted.
January 2nd, 2019 at 11:35 AM ^
Draft info is:
1st round
2nd round
3rd round or later.
He isn't a 1st/2nd round pick - so the info he got was "3rd round or later". That could be 3rd round or undrafted - they don't differentiate.
January 1st, 2019 at 11:08 PM ^
He was here for four years, getting a degree, and people are still complaining here saying he’s not good enough/will wash out of the nfl soon. Well if he sucks so much these people should be happy he’s leaving...
January 1st, 2019 at 11:10 PM ^
There is a sportswriter in New Mexico who owes Jim Harbaugh an apology.
January 1st, 2019 at 11:13 PM ^
He was utilized so poorly. Would have loved to see him next year with a better o-line but I doubt that would have mattered much. Can't blame him for leaving, he's definitely a mid round pick.
January 1st, 2019 at 11:21 PM ^
All of our pass catchers were utilized poorly :(
I know he had the drops in the OSU game but outside of that I felt him and DPJ were our most reliable targets. In the games we struggled we failed to target DPJ and Gentry early on. Gentry also should've been targeted a whoooooolllllleeeeee lot more in the red zone. Just chuck it up high to where only he could reach it
January 1st, 2019 at 11:41 PM ^
He was utilized so poorly.
He had 514 receiving yards and would have had more if he'd held on to some other passes. How many yards do you expect from the TE?
Now, how we used the receivers is another story.
January 2nd, 2019 at 12:05 AM ^
Yes he was utilized poorly along with our WRs
He's fucking 6'8 and only had 2TD. As I said, he should've been a major Redzone threat.
January 2nd, 2019 at 12:24 AM ^
Part of the reason he had only 2 TDs was that he dropped a few in the endzone - Indiana, OSU, I think ND also. Anyway, we had other good options (DPJ, Collins) to throw to as well.
I maintain that the WRs were underused far more than he was.
January 2nd, 2019 at 12:29 AM ^
They tried it. He was okay at it, not great.
January 2nd, 2019 at 1:12 AM ^
Yeah if anything they went to him in the red zone to a fault. He had every opportunity to make plays.