Ranking College Basketball Coaches
I'm looking for an article or a spreadsheet that I'm almost positive I saw on this site during the tourney run last year. It ranked each active coach based on their actual tournament wins vs. their expected wins based on seeding. I have done several different searches on this site, and multiple searches of the broader internet, and for the life of me I cannot find what I'm looking for. The closest thing I came across was an article that gave historical win percentages by for each seed number, and then a ranking of total conferences on actual vs. expected wins, but nothing about coaches. Could someone please help me out? I'd love to see where Beilein ranks after last year's run. Thanks!
December 5th, 2018 at 8:46 PM ^
#1 - no need for any stinkin' spreadsheet!
December 5th, 2018 at 8:50 PM ^
BILL SELF IS TRASH I WILL NOT HEAR ANY OPINIONS TO THE CONTRARY THANK U
December 5th, 2018 at 8:56 PM ^
SO IS SEAN MILLER
December 5th, 2018 at 9:01 PM ^
Does that players shirt say "Always Dripping"? Because Sean is leading by example
December 5th, 2018 at 9:06 PM ^
LOL "Sean Miller came through dripping!" (no literally, he's soaking wet)
December 5th, 2018 at 9:22 PM ^
Came through sopping (splash splash)
December 6th, 2018 at 6:14 AM ^
(drip drip)
December 5th, 2018 at 9:09 PM ^
Sean Miller is King Drip Boy.
December 5th, 2018 at 9:06 PM ^
Good lord. Please tell me that’s photoshopped and not an actual grown man millionaire wearing a white dress shirt without a T when he knowns his perspiration situation.
December 5th, 2018 at 9:18 PM ^
The guy in yellow is trying not to stare at his sweaty ass crack.
December 6th, 2018 at 7:22 AM ^
I get it, it's hot in a basketball arena, and if you're a coach you probably want to be as comfortable as possible; i.e. minimal layers, but yeah, if you're wearing a white dress shirt, you put on a fucking undershirt.
December 5th, 2018 at 9:34 PM ^
That guy's a walking wet T-shirt contest.
December 5th, 2018 at 9:41 PM ^
Sean Miller got the assist when Jerome Lane from Pitt jailsexed the backboard. Send it in Jerome!
December 6th, 2018 at 6:52 AM ^
He needs to go the Bill Frieder route and wear a towel.
December 6th, 2018 at 7:37 AM ^
Or the Jerry Tarkanian route and chew on a towel.
December 6th, 2018 at 9:11 AM ^
As an Arizona alum, I can say that he is very intense. Keep an eye on him on the sideline during a game and youll know what I mean.
He consistently has Arizona winning the Pac-12. I’m not proud of the violations committed there, but it is what it is. I think he has been disappointing in the tournament considering the talent he has there. But it’s hard to get rid of a coach who consistently wins the conference championship, always has a high seed in the NCAA tournament, and routinely beats ASU by 30+ points. Not to mention a winning record against UCLA.
December 6th, 2018 at 10:05 AM ^
it’s hard to get rid of a coach
Not when they are caught cheating.
December 6th, 2018 at 11:00 AM ^
I think when the investigations and court cases are over, he likely will be removed as head coach. My comment was only referencing his performance as a coach, and the success his teams have had.
December 5th, 2018 at 8:54 PM ^
Cliff Notes:
1. John Beilein
2. Everyone else.
You’re welcome.
December 5th, 2018 at 9:43 PM ^
1. John Beilein
2. Rest of y'all
December 6th, 2018 at 5:30 AM ^
1) John Beilein
2) Not John Beilein
December 6th, 2018 at 9:31 AM ^
3. Rest of youse
December 5th, 2018 at 9:00 PM ^
I clicked on this because the title implies that you had it figured out fukstick. Gotta change the name of the thread to "I'm an idiot who needs all of you to do a bunch of research".
December 5th, 2018 at 9:07 PM ^
Your nick should be Grand Canyon sized asshole.
December 5th, 2018 at 9:20 PM ^
Sticking up for your boyfriend. I'd say I get it but - I don't.
December 5th, 2018 at 9:25 PM ^
MGoBlog dipshit rankings:
1. Harball sized HAIL
2. I don’t know I need the rest of you to do the research for me
December 5th, 2018 at 9:31 PM ^
Damn K Blue you must suck a mean cock.
December 6th, 2018 at 7:45 AM ^
You seem stable and well-adjusted.
December 5th, 2018 at 9:31 PM ^
It wasn’t enough to just be an asshole, so you decided to add the pointless sophomoric homophobia?
December 5th, 2018 at 9:39 PM ^
Twice ya pickle smuggler.
(well 3 now)
December 5th, 2018 at 10:04 PM ^
Are you 12, Could you try to up your comebacks to something beyond A level that would be pathetic even if you were?
December 6th, 2018 at 7:10 AM ^
Dude has been here for 2 full months and has officially become Mgoblog asshole of the month.
Impressive in his lack of...everything.
December 5th, 2018 at 9:04 PM ^
Tied for first: John Beilein, J. Beilein, Johnny Beilein, John B., Johnny B Good.
Nobody else even gets honorable mention.
December 5th, 2018 at 9:05 PM ^
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/jim-boeheim-is-the-new-king-of-march-madness/
Googled "fivethirtyeight wins above seed"; it was the fifth result. To be fair, it helped that I remembered where I read it.
December 5th, 2018 at 9:07 PM ^
Thanks J!
December 5th, 2018 at 9:33 PM ^
And look how many fewer opportunities Beilein has had to win his 5 "unexpected"; somebody should break that down by percentage.
December 6th, 2018 at 12:07 AM ^
Beilein and Majerus are the two with 33 games apiece. Removing Massimino from the list (15 games), everyone else played at least double the number of games (65, Jim Calhoun). They all also started at least two seeds on average higher than JB. Interesting trends.
December 6th, 2018 at 1:50 AM ^
Yeah, they update that almost every year and I'm not sure why they only do it on an absolute basis (which rewards longevity as much as success).
Definitely should also do it on a per tourney appearance basis.
Startling to see Tommy Amaker 40th on the list, considering he couldn't get Michigan to the tournament.
December 5th, 2018 at 9:36 PM ^
If Boheim won at the same clip (percentage) as Beilein he would have over 60 wins not 48. I think percentage over win expectancy should be the number one factor.
Beilein has won 33% more than expected. Thats a big number. I wonder what Fisher ended with.
December 5th, 2018 at 9:41 PM ^
I have Izzo at 48-20, and Beilein at 24-12.
ALso, this was brought up below about Coach K. Overall appearances, final fours, titles, etc. can't just be ignored. It drives me nuts when people saw things like Brad Stevens is better than Coach K or something. Coach K having great regular season success shouldn't be held against him. It's just such a flawed argument
December 5th, 2018 at 11:16 PM ^
I hate to burst your bubble, but Brad Stevens is a better basketball coach than Mike Krzyzewski.
December 5th, 2018 at 11:38 PM ^
I am of the belief he is massively overrated. And believe me, I was rooting for Butler in those final fours. But he is an overrated head coach. I truthfully believe we will find out sooner rather than later that he can handle the underdog type player in college and NBA, but not the star. I don't think he is the wunderkind everybody makes him out to be because of last season.
He is a good coach. He is not Coach K. Coach K wasn't entrusted the Olympics team 3 times and was the chosen successor to Phil Jackson for nothing.
December 5th, 2018 at 11:49 PM ^
Coach K is like Urban Meyer, they can both go fuck themselves.
December 6th, 2018 at 6:07 AM ^
I am of the belief he is massively overrated. And believe me, I was rooting for Butler in those final fours. But he is an overrated head coach.
Do you have any evidence for this, or is it just your gut feeling?
December 6th, 2018 at 4:06 PM ^
He is an excellent coach. He wouldn't be an NBA coach if he wasnt. But he needs to actually win something first, and also prove he can get it done with full team. No doubt he can get the most out of undervalued players. But can he get the most out of stars?
There's just no way I can say 5time NCAA championship, 3 time Olympic champ coach K is worse than Stevens.
Before the season I said the Celtics were not going to be great and the raptors would win the East so far that's looking true
December 5th, 2018 at 10:12 PM ^
Yep, although I believe that article is posted prior to the start of the sweet 16. So 3-1 record since then. Not sure what the ELO predicted wins would be but should be less as I believe we were about a 60% favorite to win each of the 3 games we won and like 30% to beat Villanova. And data is a little bit different for other coaches too of course.
December 5th, 2018 at 10:00 PM ^
Beilein at 9 is just stupid. Adjust for talent and he has to be top 3. He routinely gets so much more out of less.
December 6th, 2018 at 10:52 AM ^
i'm...just...i mean, i agree completely with your general point re: beilein. there's literally not a single coach i'd rather have. if there was a basketball version of nick saban, i'd still take our guy. no question.
but saying that "9 is stupid" or "adjust for talent" isn't really germane. this isn't subjective ranking, it's just numbers.
December 5th, 2018 at 11:12 PM ^
This is fascinating. I like Syracuse and acknowledge Boeheim's legendary status, but the gimmicky nature of his 2-3 natchup zone would seem to represent a bit of an asterisk.
December 5th, 2018 at 9:24 PM ^
By height?
Ewing at 7'1"