We might be #4 now but everybody needs to keep rooting for Alabama cause the Bowl Committee proved last night they REALLY want two SEC teams in the final four
The number one takeaway from last night's ranking reveal was that the bowl committee REALLY wants to see two SEC in the final four and is manipulating the hell out of the rankings to give themselves every chance make that happen. By placing Georgia at #5 they now have a clear path to the final four IF they beat Alabama in the SEC title game. And if anybody thinks a one-loss Alabama team is getting left out of the dance this year they are nuts, especially when the talking heads are currently describing them as one of the best teams in college football history and after what we saw them do last night.
When the committee only dropped Kentucky two slots after losing badly to Georgia and even more unbelievably kept a two loss LSU at #7 ahead of West Virginia, Washington State and OSU, they are setting the stage for only moving Alabama down a couple of slots should they lose to Georgia in the title game. If that happens and both Clemson & Notre Dame win out the final four will look like this IMO (remember they only dropped Kentucky two slots after getting beat by 17 at home last week and only dropped LSU four spots after getting shut out at home)
1. Clemson
2. Georgia
3. Alabama
4. Notre Dame
We need Alabama to win out or either Clemson or Notre Dame to lose for us to be assured of getting in. Those that say if we just win out we'll be fine are missing the elephant in the room IMO - that when a one loss Kentucky team ranked 9th lost to Georgia team ranked 6th they only dropped two slots cause it was such a "good loss". Does anybody here really believe that if #1 ranked Alabama somehow loses to a Georgia team ranked 5th they'll drop Alabama MORE than they dropped Kentucky losing to Georgia?
Last night one of our fellow posters PapabearBlue had a perfect post IMO on what's going on and is worth a read if you missed it:
If you look at the SEC's wins/losses what is happening is a giant pile of bullshit.
The SEC has no good wins, in fact they have zero non-con wins against ranked opponents. They've all beaten each other. It's a giant circle jerk of SEC love and transitive bullshit. I'm not gonna pull up the long diatribe I typed the other day but essentially every SEC team being propped up because they beat a team who beat a team who beat them. Every one of those teams is getting good credit for their own losses.
beats 2 who beats 3 who beats 1. Well, obviously 1 must be pretty good because they beat 2 and 2 beat 3 and 3 was good enough to beat 1.
It makes no fucking sense, it's an SEC slob job. AND it's the exact reason why preseason rankings are fucking cancer.
If Georgia isn't ranked #3 preseason then NONE of this matters.
But NO, after Georgia loses to LSU everyone just assumes LSU should be number 3, after they had just lost to a 6-3 Florida who has just now lost to 4-4 Florida. Why not do the sensible thing and assume that Georgia was over-ranked as fuck like what happens to every other conference?
Oh, yeah. SEC slob jobs.
It's fucking corrupt.
November 7th, 2018 at 11:55 AM ^
ESS EEH SEE!!!
November 7th, 2018 at 12:10 PM ^
How do you make the claim they deserve the 7th rank by using who they beat/ list to using s&p overall rankings, but not acknowledge that the s&p has them ranked at 22?
November 7th, 2018 at 12:17 PM ^
It is the SEC Kool-aid. It is strong stuff.
I am waiting for his erotic sonnet about Mississippi State.
November 7th, 2018 at 12:29 PM ^
Theres a difference between S&P+, which is predictive for future games, and S&P+ Resume which includes strength of schedule and is a ranking to date.
When you factor in the SOS, LSU is ranked 7th by S&P+ Resume, just as they are in the CFP rankings.
All of that advance metric nonsense aside, the point stands: If LSU doesnt deserve to be there, give me a team that does. I'm not even pro-LSU. I dont care. I looked at the rankings, it looks suspicious that they and Kentucky are up that high. Then you look at who's below them and I just kind of shrugged and said, "Oh. I guess so."
I dont know what ijohnb is doing other than having a meltdown. I'd be interested in seeing anybody's personal rankings that would put somebody else over LSU and their rationale behind it. I probably wouldn't even argue it if they backed it up with a second of thought.
I'd probably leave LSU there. They lost to Alabama by a million. But OSU lost be a million too... to friggin' Purdue. Purdue =/= Alabama. WVU by 3 scores to Iowa State. Do you see the point? WSU lost to poop USC.
Bitching about LSU is fine until you realize every other team behind them has also kind of been a lump of crap at times. You cant cry conspiracy unless someone is being conspired against. And nobody can tell me who that is.