OT: Ohio going to honor 2002 team and Tressel will take part
http://www.cleveland.com/osu/index.ssf/2012/11/players_expect_warm_welc…
You're going to honor the guy that made this your last game of the season in the first place? Are they gonna bring Maurice back too? Whatever. They obviously still don't believe he did anything wrong since he gave the whole team a pep talk before leaving for Ann Arbor last year or something. Question.
Would you be okay with honoring the Fab Five? Me personally, I don't know if I would. Yes, they were a group of talent that will probably never be matched and were icons, but they helped to set the whole basketball program back.
November 20th, 2012 at 12:03 PM ^
Are they going to reenact clarrett being arrested as the halftime show? The band can play "Bad Boys".
November 20th, 2012 at 12:15 PM ^
November 20th, 2012 at 1:01 PM ^
I don't know how to post gifs. Can someone put this up??
http://mgoblog.com/mgoboard/tresseloprah-sorry-it-took-so-long
November 20th, 2012 at 12:07 PM ^
As part of the halftime show some of the former players are going to compete in a Hatchet Toss.
November 20th, 2012 at 12:10 PM ^
This is all a ploy by Columbus PD to arrest those guys who have outstanding warrants.
November 20th, 2012 at 12:14 PM ^
November 20th, 2012 at 1:18 PM ^
Moeller's actions, while embarrassing to the University and ruining his credibility as being able to head the football program, didn't violate any NCAA rules or result in any kind of investigation or sanction against the football team. Tressel knowingly violated NCAA rules and then lied about it in a lame attempt to cover his tracks, costing this years squad a chance at the BCS Title game. There is NO comparison.
I had no issue standing up and giving Moeller and the 92 team an ovation. Ohio trotting out the 2002 team with Tressel while the program is in the midst of the punishment he caused is a slap in the face to the NCAA, not that they'll do ANYTHING about it.
November 20th, 2012 at 4:05 PM ^
so there is a comparison. I know very well what each man did to embarrass their respective schools/ employers. Tressel being honored is morally bankrupt and reprehensible, honoring a man you fired is just tacky and undignified.
November 20th, 2012 at 4:42 PM ^
Moeller resigned. Bo tried to talk him out of it.
November 24th, 2012 at 4:06 AM ^
To be fair, Tressel resigned too.
November 20th, 2012 at 12:16 PM ^
At least a lot of time had passed for the Gary tribute and if there was to be a Fab 5. This is 2 years removed. Typ[ical Buckeye behavior
November 20th, 2012 at 12:29 PM ^
Also, Moeller didn't cheat and commit gross ethical violations. He got drunk and made an ass out of himself. Totally different.
November 20th, 2012 at 12:16 PM ^
At least a lot of time had passed for the Gary tribute and if there was to be a Fab 5. This is 2 years removed. Typ[ical Buckeye behavior
November 20th, 2012 at 12:17 PM ^
Coach Tress back in the Shoe? Watch out for arc lightning! (Sticklers for the rules and show-cause penalties need not worry, as no penalties will be levied.)
November 20th, 2012 at 12:19 PM ^
Cooooooper!!!
Miss you, big guy! XOXOXO
(2000 Michigan-Ohio game on ESPN Classic right now.)
November 20th, 2012 at 1:16 PM ^
I just realized the TERRIBLE discrepancy between your user and your sig. Is your name Michigan Dog or My Dog?
I only ask because I say everyone's name in my head so don't make me go crazy. Or whatever.
November 20th, 2012 at 3:20 PM ^
Michigan Dog. M-Dog for short.
The M-Dog name isn't to fool you by making no sense. That's what the avatar of a Wolverine is for.
November 20th, 2012 at 12:22 PM ^
November 20th, 2012 at 12:23 PM ^
Tressel is a disgrace to college athletics, and Ohio HONORS him!
November 20th, 2012 at 12:27 PM ^
Ohio is a disgrace to honor.
BEAT OHIO
November 20th, 2012 at 12:25 PM ^
Everything you need to know about Ohio State as an institution you can glean from their decision to honor jim tressel.
November 20th, 2012 at 12:30 PM ^
Tressel can come back to be honored for the 10 year anniversary of successfully having guard dogs sniff out the UofM team bus before the game.
November 20th, 2012 at 12:31 PM ^
What was their punishment really? They upgraded their coaching staff... did they even lose a scholarship? The NCAA is making it very hard to continue to be a fan.
November 20th, 2012 at 12:38 PM ^
3 schollies a year for three years.
November 20th, 2012 at 12:46 PM ^
What a joke.
November 20th, 2012 at 12:32 PM ^
They brought Woody Hayes back over and over again to dot the eye and be honored at various football games, events and team conferences after his firing.
Hayes was reprimanded multiple times during his career by Big Ten commissioner Wayne Duke and was publicly disgraced several times because of his sideline antics and violence against the press and players.
But Hayes won a lot of games for Ohio, including Big Ten titles.
This is the lens through with Ohio fans see the the college football universe. It's not about how you win. It's about the win. Period.
Michigan just honored Gary Moeller last weekend. Michigan fans too see much more to Gary Moeller than what happened at a Southfield restaurant 18 years ago.
I'm not saying Tressel = Moeller even remoltely, but both coaches were disgraced.
At some point, the bad stuff is going to be subtracted from the good stuff, because average joe's want to remember the good stuff. For Ohio, that's winning games and beating Michigan 6 times in a row (actually 7) - something that never happened before.
Personally, I think it's too soon. Tressel was fired and received a show cause. Maybe some Ohio seniors will have some mixed feelings about honoring the guy who destroyed their opportunity - all the more poignant if they beat Michigan and finish 12-0. But this is Ohio's decision.
November 20th, 2012 at 12:43 PM ^
As usual Markusr you've nailed it. Down here in Ohio they measure everything through the prism of how did you fare against Michigan and lets face it, even beloved Woody didnt enjoy success against us like Tressel did. And he did it against the backdrop of the horrific (to them) Cooper years when we owned them like never before.
This has nothing to do with Show Causes, Probation, Bowl Bans, Scholly Reductions or anything else for that matter. Tressell beat Michigan and beat them soundly and regularily and for that he is and will be universally loved. How he did it is completely irrelevant - because when it comes to beating "that school up north", for Buckeye fans, the ends definitely justify the means.
November 20th, 2012 at 3:23 PM ^
I guess Cooper isn't coming back any time soon.
He's welcome anytime in the Big House though.
November 20th, 2012 at 12:45 PM ^
What do you expect from a school that named its athletic center after someone who punched a kid in the throat?
November 20th, 2012 at 12:37 PM ^
People get the leader they deserve. From Tressel to Meyer. They clearly weren't aiming to climb the integrity ladder.
I'll stick with the Lloyd Carr's and Brady Hoke's of the world.
I can't help but think how Tressel's cheating effected the trajectory of Lloyd's career.
November 20th, 2012 at 12:38 PM ^
will actually be honoring Louis Bullock and Maurice Taylor in their own triblute at half time of the game as well.
November 20th, 2012 at 12:38 PM ^
Is there a team anywhere that doesn't celebrate a tenth anniversary for a national championship season? The classy move would have been for Tressel to say, "I don't want to be a distraction, I'll do my celebrating with my wife and kids at home" or something to that effect. He could even host his own private celebration with the team or invite everyone over for wine coolers. Being the person he is, he obviously took the other route.
November 20th, 2012 at 1:05 PM ^
The guy thinks a lot of himself and doesn't think he did anything wrong. Just another reason to beat their ass Saturday.
November 20th, 2012 at 12:49 PM ^
For Michigan to bring Coop in to celebrate his career? Maybe we could get a legends patch for #2-10-1
November 20th, 2012 at 1:31 PM ^
Honoring Tressel does seem to beg belief. The NCAA was told that Tressel not only lied to the NCAA but that he was the only official who broke NCAA rules. If so, then why would current officials honor a guy who single-handedly dishonored them?
On the other hand, if he was not the only guilty official, then this honor might make sense. Maybe it's just another Ohio insurance policy to keep Tressel quiet and not release his emails or write his memoirs. Remember, Ohio already allowed Tressel to rescind his resignation and retire, giving him hundreds of thousands in retirement and health benefits. I wonder if he is demanding more.
November 20th, 2012 at 1:03 PM ^
Wonder if the Columbus Tat shops will be running a 2 for none special for all Ohio players to commemorate the 2002 season?
November 20th, 2012 at 1:04 PM ^
Of course they are. Was there a doubt?
November 20th, 2012 at 1:20 PM ^
"Some people will embrace it, some people will not. Some people will feel it's awkward, some people will not." - Gene Smith, quoted in the article
It was this caliber of incisive leadership that was integral to the problem in Columbus, of course, but I would say that it somehow follows that they would allow Jim Tressel to be self-aggrandizing just one more time.
November 20th, 2012 at 1:22 PM ^
"They may have taken away some of your seasons, Pope Tressel, and they probably should've taken them all away, but it's still real to me, dammit!"
November 20th, 2012 at 5:42 PM ^
I'm feeling all kinds of confused and creeped out right now!
November 20th, 2012 at 1:22 PM ^
I, for one, welcome the opportunity to beat a zombie tressel team in the way which we were never able to when they were alive and kicking.
November 20th, 2012 at 1:29 PM ^
Would you be okay with honoring the Fab Five? Me personally, I don't know if I would. Yes, they were a group of talent that will probably never be matched and were icons, but they helped to set the whole basketball program back.First, the only member of the Fab Five that was implicated in the Ed Martin affair was Chris Webber, so to suggest that all five of them set the whole basketball program back is patently unfair. Second, I would be OK with honoring the Fab Five together if Webber were to make some kind of apology to the University for the damage he caused. Since Webber still seems to consider himself the exploited party and doesn't seem to believe himself guilty of anything, that won't happen anytime soon. Third, I would be fine with the other four being honored this season, but I think those guys have already said as a group that wouldn't accept any such invitation that excludes Webber. This isn't going to happen anytime soon, if ever.
November 20th, 2012 at 1:45 PM ^
November 20th, 2012 at 1:51 PM ^
Why are our fans such whiny bitches? They're not "honoring" Tressel, they're honoring the 2002 national championship team who tressel happened to be a part of. The NCAA didn't levy any type of disassociation with the program on Tressel like they did with Webber or Pryor.
You people act like he's dotting the "i" for Christ sakes.
November 20th, 2012 at 2:59 PM ^
Tressel was not just part of that team; he was by far the most visible.
The NCAA essentially dissociated him from re- employment at every NCAA institution.
The fact that Ohio does anything they please, which is not explicitly forbidden by the NCAA speaks volumes about the moral vacuum that still exists there.
If you are proud of that, then you prove our point.
No, maybe Tressel will not dot the "i" but
...he will forever dot your "lie".
November 20th, 2012 at 3:01 PM ^
November 20th, 2012 at 6:07 PM ^
November 20th, 2012 at 6:36 PM ^
Why are you pretending to be a Michigan fan you whiny bitch? You can fool people on mlive but not on here.
November 20th, 2012 at 2:03 PM ^
So the probation department decided to take urine samples on Nov 24, and all their clients (Tressel, the osu team, and even Urban who escaped Florida's probation) have to meet at the horseshoe.
It's all a part of their terms of probation.