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01/08/2019 - 9:09am Me too.  We're not a private…

Me too.  We're not a private institution like Stanford, ND or Northwestern.

OSU is still a respected academic institution.  I think Harbaugh can pull off football factory with limited blowback so long as he isn't a full on scumbag like Meyer at UF or covering wife beatings.

The President, AD, Board of Regents, community, etc would have to be on board though - and we'd probably have a lot more shit (players missing classes, not being the best citizens) that would need to be kept quiet or at least disciplined less severely.  I could stomach it so long as nobody is getting shot on campus and the players actually play a bit of school.  We'd have to swallow our sanctimony and elitist crap though.

01/08/2019 - 7:16am Reading comprehension is…

Reading comprehension is your friend...try it.

Reread text, notice "he wasn't very good at developing talent" is a main point of my comment, and then process.  Rinse, Wash, Repeat.

01/08/2019 - 7:05am UNACCEPTABLE!





01/08/2019 - 6:47am I agree with you when the…

I agree with you when the Jesus talk is over the top and constantly in your face.  Then it comes off as overly sanctimonious and a red flag that something crooked is going on (ala Urban Meyer bible study groups at UF, with non other than Aaron Hernandez).

That said, Dabo hasn't hit my Jesus reference quota, (he's not definitively a fraud quite yet), as he isn't talking it up in the media all the time or declaring himself a martyr ala Meyer and Freeze.

When he enables a serial murderer or bangs hookers in the name of the good lord, then we can crucify him - pun intended.

01/08/2019 - 6:36am (No subject)


01/08/2019 - 6:29am Indeed, you nailed it.  Hoke…

Indeed, you nailed it.  Hoke pulled in some top notch classes. Unfortunately, he only managed to develop the D-line well, which is why we are even having this discussion.

O-line and QB recruiting vs. development were just brutal under Hoke, but getting them to Ann Arbor was never his problem.

01/08/2019 - 6:26am Under RR and Hoke we…

Under RR and Hoke we definitely had the stench of loser.

Under Harbaugh we have more the stench of middling program that can't get over the hump with a shitty, delusional fanbase.

Breaking News: We're essentially back to where we were under the Bo and Carr years...except college football changed (it's more of a business now) and OSU built a football factory and Meyer had a 4 year head start on Harbaugh.  Hence, the lack of success against OSU and other elite programs. 

I'm still not sure if we are playing catch up or this will be the accepted ceiling for the program.  If we want Bama, Clemson, OSU results I don't think our student athletes can spend half their time in class...time to accept that college football is the NFL development league (not to mention the "supplements", bagmen, and whatever other shenanigans go on that we probably aren't fully embracing). So do we go full blown football factory? - or do we accept our fate as similar to a Notre Dame or Stanford where top 5-10 is the ceiling.

01/08/2019 - 4:44am Agreed.  He has the stink of…

Agreed.  He has the stink of loser on him.  Right now we are at least middling, he'll walk right in with the stench of loser - not sure our program can absorb that right now.

01/07/2019 - 11:55pm Steroids and Jesus.

Steroids and Jesus.

01/07/2019 - 11:54pm The have Jesus and $$$$$$ on…

The have Jesus and $$$$$$ on their side.

01/03/2019 - 5:53am UNACCEPTABLE!!!! HARBAUGH IS…







01/02/2019 - 5:24pm Meh...

Based on the talent…


Based on the talent he had at OSU, he underachieved.  They had Bama level talent and won 1 national title.  Missed the playoffs in 2016 with an all time loaded team, were blown out in 2017 by Clemson, and missed it last year and this year.  

Based on what he recruited and his 100000-4 record in the B1G, should have done more in the post season.  At Utah and UF he was lights out - until of course Saban showed up and owned him and the rest of the SEC.

Getting blown out by Iowa and Purdue were pretty brutal losses that cost them dearly, despite having one of the 2 or 3 most talented team in the country both years.

12/30/2018 - 3:37am I believe it's pre-Madonna. …

I believe it's pre-Madonna.  Before "Like a Prayer" 

12/28/2018 - 3:45am UCF also outhit us.  Take…

UCF also outhit us.  Take Scott Frost quotes with a grain of salt.

Sure, the New England Patriots would beat the piss out of Alabama...thanks captain obvious Frost.

Nothing Bama could do in scheme would keep that game close.

It was a shit game with shit coaching and we got blasted.  Let's not forget it's the same team (OSU) that got destroyed by Purdue and Iowa the year in back to back years, 2 completely different teams and schemes.

Sometimes shit just hits the fan and starts to snowball.  Because it's OSU and they beat us like a drum every year (when we are better, when they are better, or the teams are on par) over the past 20 years, we are programmed to over react to simply being owned AND having shit luck against them.  Lets be honest...Harbaugh could just as easily be 2-2 against them as 0-4.  The problem is they blow us out and win, and they win the close ones.  I dont expect next year to be close....I think we blow them out, simply because it will be a focus for Brown and staff all year round.

12/28/2018 - 2:58am Not necessarily.  We said…

Not necessarily.  We said this when Wormley, Taco, Lewis, etc went to the league and they came back and were really good in 2017.

Gary played injured all year.  Uche + Paye is pretty damn good.  Bush will be hard to replace, but I expect some young guys to make some noise.  

12/28/2018 - 2:54am Love Don Brown, but you can…

Love Don Brown, but you can't call rock, or variations of rock all game.  Aggression is great, but you need paper and scissors in your bag if the opponent keeps smashing the rock.

IE, we need to be multiple on defense, just like we complain when the offense keeps running into a brick wall.  We didn't run zone schemes until the second half, and Meyer and staff knew it was coming and adjusted to that as well.  

Variety is the spice of life.  Yes, you need an identity to hang your hat on, but both our offense and defense need to be more flexible going forward, and I expect they will be.

FWIW, I love our recruiting and think we have the chance for a special year in 19, with Dax back there playing free safety, and Shea throwing to what will be the best receiving corps in the nation. Uche +Paye > injured Gary.  I'm curious to see if 1 of Long or Hill stay.  Bush will be really, really hard to replace.

12/26/2018 - 3:50am No idea, but Saquon Barkley…

No idea, but Saquon Barkley is the best running back I have seen since Barry Sanders.  I know it's been just one year in the NFL, but he is nasty...and I hate Pedo State and not a Giants fan here.

Adrian Peterson is/was incredible, but if Barkley stays healthy he will be up there with the Jim Browns, Paytons, Sanders, etc in the history of great RBs

Go ahead and neg away.

12/26/2018 - 3:20am (No subject)


12/23/2018 - 3:49am OJ wasn't available?

OJ wasn't available?

12/22/2018 - 8:20pm Conveniently waited until…

Conveniently waited until after Harrison commitment to announce this....well done, and expected.

12/20/2018 - 7:15am Yes and a big FU to the…

Yes and a big FU to the BPONE, Maizen / Diagonal Blue and his 20 other aliases and all the other concern trolls.

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12/20/2018 - 7:09am Am I a bad person in finding…

Am I a bad person in finding joy in their depravity?  

Not the Nasser level shit, but just the fact that that their football program is basically a prison built to temporarily house current and future felons for 4 years - on a landfill of a campus nonetheless. 

12/20/2018 - 5:11am Is he the one who can't…

Is he the one who can't stand the cold?  If so, I wouldn't get too excited as he has a bunch of Southern schools after him.

That said, some of these kids need to realize that unless you go to Miami or Gainesville, it gets cold in SEC country. Also, if you plan on playing in the NFL, you will play in some shit cold weather (but I could understand putting that off for 3-4 years to better enjoy your college experience.)

But UT..sorry, it gets fucking cold in Tennessee, and I believe its in/near some mountain air?  So regarding the winter, cold is cold, wether its 15 degrees or 30 degrees, its the same shit.


12/19/2018 - 2:53pm I believe it would be…

I believe it would be shlerting?

Shit + Fart = sharting

Shit + Lemon + Fart = Shlerting?

12/19/2018 - 6:21am Dating strippers and bottle…

Dating strippers and bottle service girls was amazing in my 20's.  I'ts not nearly as fun or sensible now in my mid 30's.  I just can't hang, but I do occasionally envy the young bloods that are still out partying.

The day/age at which I became a domesticated puss, not quite sure; but don't think that train is turning around.  Unless of course I have some epic midlife crisis and go full blown Charlie Sheen with some 20 year olds.....Minus the HIV of course.

12/18/2018 - 1:43pm There aren't that many…

There aren't that many....Maizen just keeps coming back with new accounts.  Dude is elite concern/pessimist troll.

12/18/2018 - 1:39pm Good lord...what were you…

Good lord...what were you thinking???  

Mocking, evil twin gnomes.  Dude, destroy that shit asap.  

Some of you people are clueless!!!!  That's like saying candyman 5 times while looking in the mirror expecting bad shit not to happen.  Get your shit together man.

10/22/2016 - 1:29pm Ferentz is so frustrating

is so Midwest mediocre. Guy has carte blanche to do whatever he wants with that program...You would think he would care enough to try something new on offense once a decade.  


09/28/2016 - 11:29am Looking for an unbiased answer....

Looking for non-homer answers here.

Do we have the best D-line in the country and if not who is out there that is better or even close?

I ask this because I know all our guys and we seem quite elite, but I am not that in tune with what other teams (Bama, OSU, LSU) have up front and obviously I am biased.

Taco, Hurst, Mone (hopefully healthy), Glasgow, Wormley, Gary....

I might be missing some other contributors like Winovich or Marshall.

It seems like 5-6 of these guys are legit NFL players.  


Also, where would our secondary rank?  Lewis is obviously elite.  Is Stribling simply average or is he above average?  Losing Clark obviously sucks.  Where does Dymonte rank as a safety?

Just curious for some non-homer answers.

09/10/2016 - 11:12pm This is true

And Urban Meyer looks like an inbreed.

09/10/2016 - 11:06pm Brady Hoke

still looks clueless.  Thanks for the great recruiting though. Fun watching what Harbaugh can do with all those 4 and 5 stars.

09/10/2016 - 5:52pm I love it

He has a loser team and he needs to convince them that they are better than they are.  I'm sure Harbaugh did the same when he had to convince Stanford that they weren't that shitty when he first got there.

He knows they got shat on, but sometimes if you lie enough to yourself and those around you, you start to believe it and play to that level.  

A toast to you delusional Scott Frost.

09/10/2016 - 4:05pm Agreed, the connection

with a tight end should be less sloppy.  

08/28/2016 - 2:30pm Rashan Gary

Safety on his first of many sacks at UM.

08/27/2016 - 1:23pm Yep

Harbaugh can win with his, he can win with yours....he's a coaching savant. Meyer is good, but as a system coach he will be beat, just like Saban ran him out of the SEC.
I'll take Harbaugh with a top 5 class vs. Meyer with a top 2 class any day of the week and twice on game day. He's just a better, more well rounded coach and it will prove out over the next few years.

Since coming to osu, Meyer has faced 1 legitimate challenge year in and year out....MSU...a team full of 3 star well developed talent. I believe he is 2-2 against them despite the clear talent edge.

Now take Michigan with Harbaugh coaching and 4 star talent across the board....I think this will go quite well for us.

08/27/2016 - 1:00pm Nooooobody!

Oh wait, wrong question.

The answer is ....everything!

08/27/2016 - 12:58pm Double post...

So I will continue....
Osu has question marks on the o-line, d-line, secondary, receivers, and their tailback (mr. Weber who was hoodwinked into committing) is a first year starter.

08/27/2016 - 12:55pm I just don't buy that osu is more talented

This year. For all his inadequecies developing players, hoke recruited really well. Harbaugh took the team to 10-3 in year one, and returns just about every meaningful starter. QB to me is a non-issue considering both are supposedly much further along than ruddddddock.

This team has 7-9 players that should be drafted in the first 4 rounds. Osu will be more talented next year and probably the following year still, but I'm just not seeing this "talent gap" this year. Are we to believe that every 4* osu sophomore will just fill right in for the 10 players they lost to the nfl that wee multiple year starters?

Am I missing something here? Of course, either team could win the game, but outside Linebacker and a game breaking running back (although it seems Evans might be that guy) this team is loaded across the board.

08/25/2016 - 6:56am We need high chairs

for the get off my lawn crowd. 

08/24/2016 - 1:19pm We shouldn't have a football program

or play football games until we beat OSU and MSU.

08/24/2016 - 3:00am Molk

Brandon Graham would be my choice if the D-line wasn't so filthy already.  Denard obviously would be fun to have as a change of pace RB, but wouldn't necessarily fit Harb-offense.

Molk was a really good, smart center that would not only solidify the line, but allow Mason Cole to stay at tackle for a second year instead of changing positions.

08/21/2016 - 6:58pm Very fair

I think we are better than LSU in that they can never seem to develop a QB, but every where else they are loaded with talent.  As much as Harbaugh is a quarterback guru, we dont have a proven returning starter.  

As for OSU, I think we are more talanted in terms of on field contributors (upper classment) and finally have a coaching staff to match wits at an elite level.  That being said, given their ownership over our program over the past decade +, Urban dominance in conference since arriving, I can't be butthurt over them being ranked above us.  That being said, they lost a ton of talent and I expect us to finally beat them down.

08/21/2016 - 12:35pm Mone

Was supposedly an immovable beast before the injury last year. With all the big names on the d-line receiving hype an praise, I think he can be an under the radar big time contributor. Our goal line defense could be a wall!

08/19/2016 - 1:52pm Vince Wilfork please...

I would love to have an immovable force in the middle of the D-line to eat up 2 blockers.  Stuff the run game with Onwenu, Glasgow and Mone and guys like Gary and Taco can destroy QBs.  Will be insane.

That being's he looking when playing o-line?

08/18/2016 - 2:25pm Way to perpetuate

the arrogant, ignorant American tourist stereotype.  

08/17/2016 - 9:46am Media

should ask Urban about mentoring Aaron Hernandez, cheating on his wife with grad students, faking a heart condition, and running away from Saban.

08/17/2016 - 3:05am He's a loser

Happy he's gone

01/26/2016 - 1:14pm No ethics

no morals, no integrity.  My GOD, what have we become?  What happened to doing things the right way?  I will not stand for Harbaugh trying to get the best class possible after miscalculating class size and recruit interest in the program.

I will only be satisfied if we "win the right way," which we have managed to do 1/2 a time over the past half century.  We deserve 9-3 mediocrity and the ability to hold our heads high while getting owned by elite progams like OSU and Alabama, and more recently by regional power MSU.  

First excessive stretching and now this!  UM has clearly sold its soul for wins.  

09/15/2015 - 9:43am More Importantly....

Did Hoke apologize to Dantonio and the B1G for Harbaugh's outburst?

09/08/2014 - 3:24pm Outrage!!!

Let's all jump on the internet and see who can be most OUTRAGED by the acts of another.  Yeah, his actions were that of a scumbag, but the need for people to jump on social media and display how OUTRAGED they are to make themselves feel like better human beings is ridiculous. 

Did he get what he deserved?  No, probably deserves worse, like a criminal charge.  But I still find the public response ridiculous, especially since we all know people, if not ourselves, that have done some bad shit.  Again...he's a dirtbag, but casting stones at him does not make any of us better people, and being the most OUTRAGED on the internet doesnt make you the a women's rights activist.  If you really care, work with a women's shelter or donate to battered women's charities instead of posting to my FB wall.