Would You Swap Tradition For More Wins?

Submitted by LKLIII on

Slow day today on the board, so I'll throw out a goofy hypothetical:

Coach Harbaugh is known to respect tradition, but he's also known as an innovator.  And one could argue that the biggest Michigan tradition of all is winning without cutting corners. Would you be OK if Harbaugh radically changed one narrow element of Michigan tradition if it provided a concrete boost in team performance?  Assume for the sake of argument that the NCAA woud allow any changes.

Example:  My understanding is that the origination of the winged helmet was so that the QB could spot their receivers more efficiently (as opposed to just a sea of brown leather helments).  If Coach Harbaugh painted all receiver corps helmets neon orange--or hell, even just solid maize-- and because of it our passing game impoves to the point that we win one extra game per year versus what we would have normally, would you be OK with it?  Or would the pitchforks come out even though the team had a markedly improved passing game?

 

LKLIII

June 26th, 2016 at 1:55 PM ^

Amen brother.  The only reason I put this topic up here is to give people something to think/talk about.  At least it's Michigan related.

FWIW, I think the argument of "we don't need to do it b/c we are already there without it" is a valid point.  The counter-point to that would be, "the better you get, each incremental 1 game boost gets more significant---going from 7-5 to 8-4 doesn't do much for you, but going from 10-2 to 11-1 or 11-1 to 12-0 does."

Anyway, saying "I want innovation but without disrupting tradition" is the easy answer.  There's no cost that the tradition-loving fan has to pay.  I get that it's the first option, but that isn't the point of my hypothetical.

The question essentially is--"without getting into the realm of cheating, how much change to our traditional program would you tolerate to get a significant boost of us going to the playoffs or the NC each year"?

Maybe some guys don't want to play that game, but in light of a terribly slow day on the board, I figured that some folks on the board might want to debate the point constructively.  EDIT:  Apparently I was wrong.

bostonsix

June 26th, 2016 at 1:17 PM ^

I would be okay with a Helmet change is if 20 back to back national championships were guarantees, and in those 20 years tOSU would never score a single point against us.

timtebro

June 26th, 2016 at 1:19 PM ^

As a Michigan fan, no. As a Purdue grad, I can speak for the masses as they would love to swap their tradition (???) for more wins and a healthy Perry the ACLEphant.



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NFG

June 26th, 2016 at 1:19 PM ^

Isn't all time wins and winning percentage tradition? And don't give me the, " well look who you played back then!"

If we count the war of 1812 as an American military victory, then counting a victory against Yale in 1903 is fucking legitimate.



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1974

June 26th, 2016 at 1:20 PM ^

OP: Save for one example, you asked a hopelessly murky and open-ended question.

A word on "tradition" and UMich football: For something with such an vague definition, it sure does constrain the thinking of many Michigan fans. I'd be OK with not hearing about it again.

Craptain Crunch

June 26th, 2016 at 1:22 PM ^

Did that start with Bo who used it as a rallying call? Was tradition something heralded as much as it is today prior to Bo? 

Winning does create tradtition but we live in a world of "what have you done for me lately" and outside of a few seasons, Michigan hasn't done much at all in the winning department. Hopefully 2015 was first year of a long winning streak to last many years if not decades.

rob f

June 26th, 2016 at 2:03 PM ^

your soul" mindset, Craptain. The holy trinity of crunch (Original, Crunch Berries, and Peanut Butter) established a tradition that should NEVER have been messed with. WTF, as your avatar is asking! STOP IT with all those other flavors you've been throwing out there for the last 15 years or so!

LKLIII

June 26th, 2016 at 1:38 PM ^

I mean, I guess think it another way--the reason Fritz Crisler used the winged helmets originally was as an innovation over what other teams were doing.  That "tradition" was born out of a desire to win by innovating.

I can see why some would say not to mess with tradition if we are already good enough to win without availing ourselves of every possible legal advantage.  But I don't think the other side of the argument is crazy.