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|1 day 2 hours ago||Or both.||
|6 days 9 hours ago||I was hoping to hear good||
I was hoping to hear good news about Weber also, but the more I think about it, the less I think we will hear anything one way or another before NSD, presuming he's made his mind up one way or another. By now he is very familiar with both programs. If he is intent on staying at OSU then why send mixed signals to future teammates and openly flirt with Michigan again? OTOH, if he is intent on flipping back to Michigan, he will get major blowback from the OSU community for doing it, so why show your hand right now? Better to do it right on NSD so at least your story is drowned out by the rest of the recruiting news of the day, and so OSU doesn't have a chance to make a last minute additional pitch. Just rip the band aid off. The only reason I'd expect to hear a lot of news is if he is truly waffling and/or milking all of this for drama.
|1 week 3 days ago||That's outstanding. Best||
That's outstanding. Best part is Warren Sapp joining in on the fun even though he's a Miami (YTM) guy.
|3 weeks 1 day ago||Good sentiment, but if Bosch||
Good sentiment, but if Bosch was really ready to run through walls for Harbaugh, then he would have agreed to the stipulation. You can't tell the coach you're "willing to run through walls" for him, and then say, "except for that one thing you are asking me to do."
EDIT: The one exception I can think of is if the stipulation Harbaugh wanted him to do would jeopardize his long-term physical or mental health. If Bosch needed to do XYZ every Tuesday afternoon, or if he had to do ABC whenever he felt a certain way physically or emotionally, and that had the risk of missing practice or film session, I suppose there is a scenario where a hardass coach could say, "You can rejoin the team, but none of that namby-pamby stuff your doctor/shrink/counselor is telling you to do." However, as hardass as Harbaugh is, I find it HIGHLY unlikely that he'd prevent Bosch from doing someting essential to his long-term physical or mental well-being just to be on the team. So I think the likelihood is that it was some reasonable (but above-and-beyond) request that Harbaugh wanted Bosch to do, and Bosch didn't want to do it.
|3 weeks 1 day ago||Reading Between the Lines||
The article says the "meeting produced two options....."
1) Stay with the team, with stipulations, OR
First, I would assume that Kyle and his dad would be on the same page prior to the meeting w/ Harbaugh. So I think it isn't a Kyle/Kyle's Dad/Harbaugh distinction as much as a Bosch/Kyle's Dad vs. Harbaugh distinction.
If the kid marched into Harbagh's office and demanded to start, that would take insanely huge balls. Anybody can spend 30 seconds googling Harbaugh and know that he is not a man to be dictated to.
Second, the article says the options were as a RESULT of the meeting, to me that sounds like Bosch had two choices when he walked out the door. If it was "Bosch starts or he transfers," then it would be Harbaugh with the choice, and the tone of the article just does not seem to frame the situation in that sense. My guess it was the other way around: Harbaugh essentially saying, "You can stay, but I am also going to require you to......"
Now, maybe it was just the same stuff Harbaugh will tell every other player. i.e. ".....work your tail off every snap and every drill, there is not a guaranteed starting position, and you will earn every minute you play on the filed just like everybody else." Maybe that's what Harbaugh said and it wasn't what Bosch was looking for.
It's also possible that the nature of Kyle's absence from the program was the reason for an extra stipulation that Harbaugh laid down. We can speculate all day on what that was, but I don't know it would much good to know exactly what the stipulation was.
The bottom line is that my own personal vibe I get from the interaction is that it was Harbaugh who put an extra stipulation on Bosch (above and beyond what the rest of the team will be required to do), and Bosch was not willing to comply with the extra requirement.
Happy trails, good luck, and let's get back to winter conditioning with the rest of the team....
|3 weeks 4 days ago||127k. Surpassed Purple Face.||
127k. Surpassed Purple Face.
|3 weeks 4 days ago||Jesus.||
|3 weeks 4 days ago||IBD.||
|4 weeks 14 hours ago||This. And the highlighter||
This. And the highlighter yellow has to go. If Adidas can produce a classic looking uniform with the traditional maize color, plus maybe ONE Uniformz type of outfit for one special UTL type game each year, I am OK with Adidas.
|4 weeks 16 hours ago||I don't think most fans are||
I don't think most fans are privy to the inside baseball stuff at Schembechler Hall. Most of the standing O starts and ends with "you delivered us a national championship."
|4 weeks 3 days ago||Last night BTN on the front||
Last night BTN on the front if their website basically cited the Bleacher Report article from yesterday and added their own commentary on it. No independent confirmation but they are farther along than ESPN at this point.
|4 weeks 4 days ago||This is a good point. Media||
This is a good point. Media can get two stories for the price of one. "Harbaugh Leaves 49ers for Michigan" versus "Harbaugh and 49ers Part" and "Harbaugh to Michigan" The only thing that prevents milking the story like that is competition of other media outlets to get the scoop. I'm assuming once the dam breaks then the entire story spills out pretty quickly. Or at least I'm HOPING the other shoe drops quickly. Otherwise it'll be a bumpy ride the last 24-72 hours.
|4 weeks 4 days ago||Agreed||
Agreed. Definitely a food chain element to this media reporting. They let the smaller blogs float up the rumors, the bigger blogs sift through the rumors to do more actual investigative reporting, then the first mainstream news outlet (or first blog officially owned or affiliated with a mainstream news company) gets credit for "breaking" the story.
At any rate, there will be a tipping point at which this Board will melt down. My guess is tomorrow morning as the mainstream sports outlets set the talking points agenda for the NFL pregame shows.
|4 weeks 4 days ago||This Discussion Board over||
This Discussion Board over the next few days:
|4 weeks 5 days ago||I think on average and on an||
I think on average and on an objective basis, the NFL is more prestigious than the college level due to talent, pay, etc. but if that were the end all be all then you wouldn't have lifer college coaches. High school teachers would always be striving to be professors at college, small town lawyers would always strive to become big city litigators, and coffee house guitar players would all strive to play arena sized rock concerts. Sometimes there are other factors at play. In regards to college vs NFL however:
|4 weeks 5 days ago||Not to mention that JSerra HS||
Not to mention that JSerra HS is where another former Michigan QB went.
|5 weeks 12 hours ago||You can zoom out even more||
You can zoom out even more and track the spikes over time. January 2011 when Hoke was hired, etc.
|5 weeks 12 hours ago||Ditto||
What people are forgetting is that the skillset to make a modern looking, user-friendly blog and internet discussion board is not the same skillset for gaining and leaking insider information on the Michigan football program. Guys like Brian might have both going for them, but it makes sense becasue Brian is monetizing his blog, so he needs to be audience/user friendly. But for other guys who just use their chatter as water-cooler talk, the premium on making the website look pretty just isn't there.
Obviously it remains to be seen whether or not these guys are proven right, but their vibe also seems like they aren't publicity seeking either. I don't think the guys over there are also running Twitter accounts and trying to get clicks on their wanna-be sports reporter pages like "Those Who Stay 7". It looks to me much more like they are guys in their 40's and older--not necessarily tech savvy--but put a premium on being involved and knowledgeable about the Michigan football team inside scoops. Former players, boosters, etc.
Then other people (legit mainstream bloggers like Brian, writers like JUB, quality scouting & Michigan insider beat reporters, etc.) are better at aggregating the leaked news from various sources, packaging it up into a more comprehensive, digestible, and user-friendly format.
EDIT: Ditto what Mr. Miggle wrote down below. I didn't see his post before I put up mine, but basically what he said.
|5 weeks 14 hours ago||"Bring in the Wolf" is my favorite part in all of this.||
"Bring in the Wolf" is my favorite part in all of this.
|5 weeks 14 hours ago||This "other coaches" thing is||
This "other coaches" thing is also why I'm optimistic. Hackett is not a moron. They all know what happened last time around. No way he'd let the Plan B swim lanes get ignored unless he was 100%--as in legally binding "it's happening"--he'd get his Plan A.
|5 weeks 14 hours ago||If true, my bet is it breaks||
If true, my bet is it breaks either tonight nationally or sometime on the 26th (I assume most sports reporters take Christmas off).
|5 weeks 1 day ago||Who said anything about cold||
Who said anything about cold turkey?
My hope is we will get Searchbits continued at least until the entire coaching staff is determined.
|5 weeks 2 days ago||Ditto for me. Edge still||
Ditto for me. Edge still crashes. Incidentally, that kid on Twitter (FWIW) said Harbaugh was to meet with his agent at 1pm pacific time today. Edge crashes about 2 hours later--roughly long enough for a 1hour meeting and news to leak out?
|5 weeks 2 days ago||Is the Edge of the Internet||
Is the Edge of the Internet down for anybody else? I just went there and got an internal server error message.
|5 weeks 2 days ago||I agree, but this is a big||
I agree, but this is a big reason why I am definitely towards "this is happening". Two reasons:
|5 weeks 2 days ago||I am an attorney, and I will||
EDIT: Didn't see the two posts just above me, as I was drafting my own post on this topic.
TL;DR Version; yes, you're right. Also ditto on NOT going to law school.
Detailed answer below:
I am an attorney, and I will say that, while Ace is correct in technical terms that he cannot be under two contracts at once to coach for two different teams, it is entirely possible for him to have signed a legally binding contract at this point. There are two scenarios in which this could happen, only one of which applies in our situation:
1) He just striahgt-up breaches the first contract and signs the second. While he'd have a bunch of legal difficulties with the first contract, it does not make the second NON binding necessarily. Depends on the terms of the first contract. Obviously he will not do this.
2) He could sign a contract package (not just a term sheet or memorandum of understanding) with Michigan, making the Michigan contract "Start Date" or some other time-delayed activation mechanism contingent upon the cessation of his contract with the San Francisco 49ers Organization. Basically, just make termination of his relationship with the 49ers a condition precedent for the Michigan contract, at which point the Michigan contract comes into full force and effect instantaneously.
If he were to sign a contract with a clause akin to scenario #2 above, it's entirely possible the "deal is done" and the only thing that would thwart the deal would be if the condition precedent (in our case, ending employment with the 49ers), never happens.
Signing such a deal would make it impossible for the NFL to slide in with any Godfather-type offers and for Harbaugh to accept such offers without being instantly in breach of an employment contract with Michigan.
|5 weeks 5 days ago||This may be the case, but||
This may be the case, but also remember additional details are not known as well so we can easily walk back that $48M number even for a C-Level guy.
For example, we could severely back-end a deal or make a massive portion of that contract performance based. Like, issue a base salary lower than even Hoke (say, $2M or $3M per year rather than Hoke's $4M), but then start offering huge bonuses (like $1M+) for winning red letter games, winning the Big Ten Championship, getting into the playoffs, etc.
That way if (God forbid), we had to take a flyer on a C-Level guy or super innovative unknown coordinator or something, the guy's got a chance to convert himself into the compensatory equivalent of an A or top B Level guy after-the-fact. If a lower level candidate beats expectations and earns those bonus categories, we'd be happy to fork over the extra money at that point because by definition we'd be back on track as a program.
|5 weeks 6 days ago||Either Harbaugh's camp is||
Either Harbaugh's camp is leaking this intentionally or I'd expect these updates from @ThoseWhoStay7 to dry up pretty soon. Those are pretty specific updates and it looks pretty darn clear they are coming from the agent or agent's office. The more specific the leak, the easier it should be to plug.
Somewhat concerned he's still got "soul searching" to do, but it sounds like faumily logistics shouldn't be an issue which is good. If time is of the essence he could easily just live out of a hotel suite the first few months while assembling his staff snd setting up his office. Then move the family & settle in more permanently in the summer.
The NFL could still up their numbers and match or beat Michigan by a few milion, but as Brian pointed out earlier there can be tax implications (NY and CA), and there's certainky no way NFL owners would restructure their organizations to give him as much control of the team as Hackett could likely provide.
Overall not a bad update.
|5 weeks 6 days ago||OK. I think I'm done with||
OK. I think I'm done with this discussion. I've stated in here several times what I was suggesting was specifically NOT simply "a fan video." It'd be something tastefully constructed and then sanctioned & delivered by people close to the situation for his eyes only. More akin to a video component to the offer packet. Not some ridiculous fan video barfed up on YouTube for all to see like the Cleveland fiasco.
That's all I was suggesting.
And I respectfully disagree with the idea that simply suggesting the concept of a privately presented & targeted video to Harbaugh somehow puts the Michigan entire fanbase in a qualitatively different footing RE: desperation level than we were earlier this moring. This thread simply isn't that important or impactful.
People need to lighten up.
|5 weeks 6 days ago||(No subject)||
This is not an example of what I was talking about but it's clear the guy does have love for his school. If smartly done, a video appeal could even use Harbaugh's own words to persuade him.