The U.S. Department of Education is gathering information on whether University of Michigan violated a federal crime reporting law when it waited six months to disclose the discovery of child pornography in an employee area of University Hospital.
"We are looking into this," said Justin Hamilton, DOE press secretary.
OMG this is so big! Like
OMG? More like
OMG? More like ZOMG!!!!1!!1!!
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Space bitches, space.
I guess you're being sarcastic
I guess you're being sarcastic but this is actually kind of a big deal.
Not that I loved Rich Rod less, but that I loved Michigan more.
I will not read any of your posts that
are not prefaced by Yo:
Hold on and wait for the facts
This could be as simple as a father having a picture of his topless 2 year old daughter in the front yard pool. According to federal law; that is child porn.
So can we wait for the facts to come out before we jump to conclusions. Lets not be a sparty and jump to conclusions then gather the facts that support those ill-conceived conclusions.
From the Red Cedar Message Board: "God hates us." Yes He does Lil Bro, yes he does. Everyone hates you.
Really?
Is a topless 2 year old actually child porn? I'm genuinely interested, as I've seen quite a few at the beach, &c.
Any photo that
shows the dark spot or nipple is porn. Anyone under the age of 18 that is photographed while topless is child porn.
For example a 17 year old married girl send a text message of herself topless to her 18 year old husband fighting in Iraq COULD be charged with a host of child porn crimes.
These laws need to be updated but it will be preceived as being "soft on child porn" No politician wants that label.
From the Red Cedar Message Board: "God hates us." Yes He does Lil Bro, yes he does. Everyone hates you.
I'm familiar with a case...
where someone in the phot department at the drug store saw a woman's (innocent, of course) picture of her child taking a bath, decided the positioning of the tub's faucet was suggestive, and called the cops. Obscenity, as always, was in the eye of the beholder, but her choice was between likely prison time or a guilty plea that now has her labeled as a sex offender.
I'd like to think the current case is something more, given the use of the adjective "masochistic", but who knows?
This is a really good point.
I don't know what it is about parents of 2-5 year olds who feel it necessary to post pictures of their kids taking baths on facebook, but technically it's classified as child porn.
I put up a tough front, but deep down I just want to be held.
Can't wait till people equate this to the Penn St scandal
Just as they equated extra stretching to the scandal at Ohio.
I'm going to go out on a limb
I'm going to go out on a limb and say this is a lot more serious than extra streching. And, it doesn't directly involve the football program, so I doubt the connection will be made.
USING GRATUITOUS AMOUNTS OF CAPS LOCK SINCE APRIL 2011
I'm going to go out on a limb
I'm going to go out on a limb and say you didn't read the post you are responding to very carefully.
Nothing to do with athletics.
Nothing to do with athletics. The guy worked at the UM Hospital.
And gebe659
Drops into full trolling mode.
"I love him, he's a great coach, he's a great mentor, he's a great friend. He's every single thing you want a college coach to be, and he does it flawlessly." -David Molk
How is this trolling? I
How is this trolling? I posted absolutely 0 commentary about this, and posted a link to a source. It's a story about UM, and this is a UM message board.
Because you're an MSU fan
Who hasn't said anything in weeks, but pulls up a University but non-sports scandal topic at the University and just throws it out there. It's not even new news.
What was the motivation or point to the post? Are you suddenly concerned about the workings at the U? Or did you just want to stir shit up with a negative post about the school? If an admitted U-M fan goes on and posts "Police investigated basketball cover up of rape" on an MSU site, how do you think that will be received?
You did it to troll. Not actively flaming in your trolling doesn't make it not trolling.
"I love him, he's a great coach, he's a great mentor, he's a great friend. He's every single thing you want a college coach to be, and he does it flawlessly." -David Molk
I also was the first to post
I also was the first to post here that Izzo was suspended for a recruiting violation last season. If it's newsworthy and it's relevant to this message board, I will post it.
Sorry, I guess.
Now I can see a motivation to discuss something MSU
From an MSU fan. This is a topic that has been deleted by mods when respected users put up the subject. You may not have paid attention enough to see that, which is fine (at least it's not the OSU recruit rapes someone thread again), but if you're an outside fan, and you're posting this stuff, you need to do your homework. Otherwise it looks bad.
This story has been going on for at least a week. This is a modest addition to the story. So it's not newsworthy, and pseudo-appropriate. So the question is, again, why was THIS story, of all the news that has happened since the Izzo story you put up seemed more newsworthy to you than anything else that has happened? Why is an admitted MSU fan find this item more newsworthy than the rest? Still waiting....
Edit: And you self-upvoted your own post, so you at least have that going for you, which is nice.
"I love him, he's a great coach, he's a great mentor, he's a great friend. He's every single thing you want a college coach to be, and he does it flawlessly." -David Molk
I hadn't seen that this story
I hadn't seen that this story had been posted. People are usually pretty quick to post newsworthy stuff. The Izzo story and this one were the only ones I saw that hadn't been posted or discussed here already. I also was the first to post that JoePa was dead, but it turns out that the website that posted it had jumped the gun.
So I've "broken" three stories on this board: one MSU, one Penn St., and one UM. If you want to consider that trolling, go right ahead.
The only negative athletic story I've ever broken on this message board was related to MSU...
Congratulations!
Congrations on being the first guy to post shitty news all the time!
Just stop. You've either been too early or late on 2/3 of your threads. You aren't going to win this one.
Besides, rival fan + posting negative news about blog's school = everyone annoyed.
This formula works for any college football blog.
Intensity is a lot of guys that run fast.
If you think you've "broken" a story here...
That was first posted....and deleted here back then-
http://mgoblog.com/comment/reply/64129/1458939
And your own link has backstory on it going to at least last Sunday-
More power to ya. You made MGoBlog see the light, yet again.
"I love him, he's a great coach, he's a great mentor, he's a great friend. He's every single thing you want a college coach to be, and he does it flawlessly." -David Molk
Who on earth would upvote their own post?
I'm not even sure what that indicates, I haven't ever given it a lot of thought.
May you have a strong foundation
When the winds of changes shift
Get over it
1. It is on topic and newsworthy that we are under investigation by the US Department of Education. There is no active thread to discuss this, so creating one isn't a problem.
2. There is no legitimate reason to censor this topic when we allow general UM news to be posted all the time. Especially since this is a big deal.
I don't care that there's an MSU fan posting this. He didn't gloat or even give his opinion on the issue. And the topic should have an active thread.
It's too bad Mod/Contributor Seth disagrees with you.
you found the hole in our system. I just removed it -- really it's not a topic that this blog needs anyway. Right now the university is letting everyone know that what you don't do if you find child porn is put it back then not say anything. Sadly this is what a lot of people would do.
http://mgoblog.com/comment/reply/64129/1458939
If it wasn't appropriate for our Diarist of the Week (2 times in a row?), it's probably not a great topic for a fan of another school to be posting.
"I love him, he's a great coach, he's a great mentor, he's a great friend. He's every single thing you want a college coach to be, and he does it flawlessly." -David Molk
The mods seem to be letting
The mods seem to be letting it stay up now. Why do you have such a problem with this information being talked about? Even if it was posted by a sparty.
Just do it!
I don't expect the mods to be on 24/7
And if they do, I'll wonder why it wasn't appropriate that CRex, one of our best users, was politely told it wasn't appropriate, but a Spartan CAN post it now. Because I still don't see how something many many Wolverines knew, but didn't see fit to post suddenly became more reasonable. And still haven't heard a good explanation why this particular user thought this particular story was suddenly more newsworthy.
I haven't knocked any other posters for discussing it in the thread. And if it's now appropriate, that's fine (just looking for consistency so we know how to act). But it doesn't change the fact that the MSU guy just posted it be rile up Michigan fans. The messenger matters as well as the message in how it's going to be received.
"I love him, he's a great coach, he's a great mentor, he's a great friend. He's every single thing you want a college coach to be, and he does it flawlessly." -David Molk
I agree that the person who
I agree that the person who reports something does matter. I wouldn't expect a warm welcome at rcmb if I posted a negative story about MSU. I just don't want us to start ignoring ugly news about Michigan just because it is ugly and we don't like it.
Just do it!
Why does it matter?
Are we taking offense at a MSU fan because we've been ignoring an ugly story. Furthermore, do we really want to conduct ourselves like the RCMB does?
The difference
1. CRex accidentally posted it as a diary, not a board post.
2. What Seth said was that the topic was simply one that the blog doesn't need, which is why he didn't feel the need to turn it into a board topic. He certainly seems to have no problem with a 70+ comment thread on the matter. Furthermore, the focus of this thread is not that an individual outside the AD affiliated with the university did somethin unconscionable, but that the university is under investigation by the US Deptartment of Education. That's kind of a big deal.
3. The messenger shouldn't matter if the topic is valid and the phrasing of the message isn't offensive. If you are allowing yourself to get riled up because an outsider brought up a serious topic concerning our school that hadn't been talked about, then you need to develop a thicker skin.
Booooo
State sucks!! Gholston's a thug! Day-Day is fat! Three in a row!! Going down on Sunday.
Not to downplay the truly
Not to downplay the truly horrid implications of this story, but-
Kellie Woodhouse. Wow.
Woodhouse, well obviously.
Woodhouse, well obviously.
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Damn, meant to say "This. So many many times." to this reply
me, fail.
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This. So many many times.*
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The article doesn't really
The article doesn't really say, but anyone have an idea why the legal office decided to drop the case?
Insufficient evidence as far as I recall.
failure of ethical education
the people in the OGC were trained, qua lawyers, to protect the legal interests of their clients, not to do what's right. so they dropped it because poor evidence gathering early on resulted in a case that wasn't then strong enough to keep the lawyers from worrying about the university getting sued if somebody did something about it. that's just a side effect of what lawyers are taught about their obligations as a matter of professional ethics.
RIP my avatar, June 14, 1998 - October 26, 2012.
Where is the OT??? This isn't
Where is the OT??? This isn't a Jordan Diamond update!
You know, Dude, I myself dabbled in pacifism once. Not in 'Nam of course.
Yeah..
Priorities...
/s
Mom, MGrad and life long fan living in So Cal
Wording of the charge?
the discovery of child pornography in an employee area of University Hospital.
I'm not familiar with the specifics of the charges and the story, but this makes it sound like child pornography was actually found at the hospital, not just at the resident's home. Also, is this all electronic, and not physical (if this is the case it could have just been in the guy's email or something)? Is this accurate?
"A flute with no holes is not a flute. A donut with no hole is a danish"
Not his e-mail. They found a
Not his e-mail. They found a thumb drive with the child pornography. The guy who owns the thumb drive is Dr. Jenson, a resident who was specializing in pediatrics.
:-o
Jenson=/=Jensen, just
:-o
Jenson=/=Jensen, just to be clear.
previous article
I remember in a previous article it said that there had been no patient complaints of wrong doing. Obviously its an extra sensitive subject given hes a resident in pediatrics, but hopefully the investigation will show that no wrongdoing was done to any patients (consistent with the first article on the subject).
"A flute with no holes is not a flute. A donut with no hole is a danish"
posted from iPhone
The article says that someone found a thumb drive at the hospital with child pornography on it as well as documents which contained the doctor's name.
"I'm the guy who does his job. You must be the other guy."
Yes, it was allegedly found
Yes, it was allegedly found at the hospital, and yes, it was electronic (I'm not sure if that's also true of what was allegedly found at the home). From the linked article:
In May a medical resident discovered a thumb drive containing masochistic child pornography and documents with fellow doctor Stephen Jenson's name on them. The resident reported her discovery to her supervisor and hospital security, but the university's legal office decided to drop the case instead of reporting it to police.
And YES
this is the 4th post on the topic since the news came out.!!
Disturbing
Disturbing
"Michigan Defense" is dominating everything, in every aspect of life. That's a rough definition.
-Craig Roh 10/29/2011
Was that you on to catch a
This is much less creepy than your original comment was!
Just do it!
Fuck's sake, when will it
Fuck's sake, when will it stop.
'Try growing up in Texas a Michigan WOLVERINE'.
it was on a personal
One image was seen, it was on a personal thumbdrive of a resident (doctor). Another resident saw it, left the area and when she came back it was gone.
OMG this is so big! Like WoW... OMG!!!!!!
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