I'm thinking with Wisconsin on their docket for the following Saturday, OSU may look past Indiana a bit. They're a little light in the secondary and if Chappell has a big day, watch out.
fair point that
Indiana will be gashed, and OSU's defense will create several turnovers. I don't see it being close. Maybe through the first half, but OSU will pull away in the second.
Unfortunately, I agree. I hate all things OSU, but I think IU's passing explosion was more a result of UM's lousy defense than it was IU's offense being all that great.
I anticipate OSU having little trouble stopping IU's passing game (~210 passing yards for IU) and completely stoning their run game. OSU wins by 24 points, 38-14.
I fully expect OSU to win going away, but I don't see them shutting down the IU passing game. I think Chappell can find some holes in their zone.
indiana was gashed last week and was about 70 seconds from going to OT. i don't think they will get gashed nearly as badly, therefore their offense needs to scorch a little less.
i agree though, OSU's depth charts are full of 4 and 5 stars everywhere, not converted positions and walk ons.
Agreed. I think there are 2 factors to take into consideration. First, I think OSU will come out with a bit of a chip and feel like they have to prove something after a perceived lackluster performance against Illinois. Second, the game is in Columbus. If it was in Indiana, I could see a letdown (except for the first factor), but I think they'll be a lot more focused at home.
Maybe it will be "windy" again.
I was thinking the same thing! That would be stupendous.
Chappell is a beast, and though the Indiana defense is horrid, the OSU offense looks a bit anemic too.
Plus chasing Pryor around a week after Denard will be like looking after a toddler.
Every time I have to try to keep up with my 2 year old, I feel a pang of sympathy for the opposing defenses.
I'm trying to get him to say "Boom! Denarded!" when he gets away from me.
haha. I have two. But your children must not be cursed with stumpy legs like I am.
Chappell is many things, a competent quarterback, a student of the game, a swell guy... but he's no beast.
I don't think Indiana has enough to beat OSU in the 'shoe. That said, I am definitely taking Indiana +22.5 with all of OSU's injury concerns on defense and to Pryor, plus their propensity to play Tresselball. I just think 22.5 is a lot of points to spot a BigTen opponent.
looked very shaky when we did get pressure on him. Big difference between osu and us on this one is that their secondary/lb'ers are capable enough in coverage to put a lot more pressure on IU's weak line. I wouldn't be surprised if the spread is covered. Even with pryor less than 100% their running backs are capable of gashing, and after watching the Miami game osu's defense definitely has the capability to take advantage of the turnovers.
I agree. With OSU playing with a four man front they will indeed get the needed pressure on Chappel to force him into making bad decisions which he didn't experience, for the most part, against Michigan.
I think Indiana plays us a lot better than they play the rest of the Big 10. They only ended up winning 1 conference game last season with a similarly potent offense. They'll need 2 conference wins this year to become bowl eligible; I'd like them to make it there to feel a little bit better about our struggle with them.
Given how good their defense is at giving up 70+ yard plays, and OSU's defense being a lot better than us, I'm not seeing an upset but I agree that 22.5 is too much.
Versus the spread, very possible. Straight up? Don't think so. Will enjoy if you're right.
They will absolutely cover, Indiana +21.5? Give it to me.
Ohio State is first in the Big Ten in pass efficiency defense, so probably not.
True but they also just lost Moeller which forces them to play an untested backup (actually 3rd stringer since their 2nd stringer was already out for the year) or move a safety to his position putting a backup there. This loss to injury won't kill them like Woolfolk did us but it does hurt them.
Also OSU's defense ranking is arbitrary based on the schedule they've played so far. They are 99th in the nation for SOS.
Have they played any competent quarterbacks while attaining that pass efficiency rating? (hint: the answer is no)
Indiana was on fire at home last week and repeating the (near-)miracle two weeks running, and away, does not seem likely.
...which makes their offense more normal. It's fair to think IU's offense is better than OSU's offense, with a limited Pryor. But the biggest difference is on D. IU's D is awful. Plus this one is in the horseshoe. I'll pull for IU to keep it close at least, just so it validates our win last weekend with the media.
I'll glady take 13 unvalidated wins.
Ohio State will not rush 3 the whole game, they will be hounding Chappell. Chappell is a good quarterback, and I enjoyed the win, but he will not be throwing to wide open receivers with zero pressure against ohio state. The only way I see this being close is if Pryor is hurt, and the injuries they have at the safety positions hurt them.
I'd love for this to happen. I think they can knock off another team, Penn State or Iowa, but I doubt OSU.
I will be keeping an eye on this score though.
I think Indiana wins outright. That neutered Ohio State offense may not be able to put up more points than Indiana's throw and shred.
Indiana will be so hung over they'll sputter badly.
Indiana had the Michigan game circled for a full year. They probably even prepared for it during the first few weeks of the season as they were clubbing baby seal after baby seal. They were incredibly prepared for us, and that crowd was jacked up.
OSU by 18.
This has Juice Williams Illinois vs. OSU written all over it.
(like MSU does/will) tends to implode after an emotional loss to Michigan.
I see an OSU blow out.
I see IU losing the next 3.
even with OSU's bandaged up, less than 2 deep secondary. I truly believe that this past weekend's game was a performance of a lifetime by both him and his receivers. Yes, we gave them a lot of room to operate, but they still made every pass/catch when it counted.
That said, I don't see OSU torching them like our offense did. I hope you're right, but I think OSU grinds another one out.
Not so fast, my friend
OSU over Indiana big, OSU can actually play defense :|
I think OSU blows them out. And just to make us feel even worse about our own defense, watch OSU hold Indiana to 13 points or less.
Doubtful, but possible I suppose. OSU will be able to run all over Indiana, and they'll be able to grind it out instead of having 3 play scoring drives. Indiana won't score 35 points with less than 40 minutes of possession I don't think, especially against OSU's defense.
Shouldn't you be focusing on driving your rig?
is posed for a classic letdown game vs. OSU. They lost a hard-fought game at home and are no longer undefeated. The thought of returning to the dregs of the B10 and how this year will be just like all the others (complete with close heartbreaking losses) has to have entered their minds. I doubt they are confident that they can beat the team chosen to pwn the B10 and compete for a title shot.
I agree that Indiana seems to match up OK with OSU on paper but I think they will struggle big time on O and give up enough points to the run game to lose decisively. Then people will overreact to how bad our defense really is since OSU shut them down.
IU gets blown out in the trenches and loses by 13 as the sweater runs the ball 95 times for 3.5 yards a carry
Even if Pryor is not 100% after his leg injury last week, they should still be able to beat IU.
That's the only shot Indiana has. If OSU's gameplan is similar to its gameplan against Illinois an Pryor is still really hurting, I can see a far too close game into the 4th quarter.
If OSU comes out gunning, it'll be over by halftime.
Than for OSU to lose to IU. I think its a longshot, but I'll be rooting for it.
happening, especially at the 'shoe. But, hell I would love it if it went down.
Indiana is just not that good. We made them look much more competent than they actually are. Its a typical bad IU team and OSU will kill them if TP is having even an average day.
This will be a slaughter. Most "non-theoretical" defenses can shut down a one-dimensional offense. If you know exactly what an offense is going to do, you should be able to game plan to slow it down. OSU has the players to sell out on the pass against IU and actually make it work.
he had a neck pointer from his sneek and was limping. OSU is going to do worse to him IMO...not to mention Chekwa is pretty darn good.
If Chappell gets to 80 pass attempts, Indiana might just win
if a team this season is going to stop chappell its ohio state....And i think he will be stopped.
will gash through Indiana's rushing defense so bad that there is no amount of Chappellbombing that can keep up.