PSU DT P.J. Mustipher Out for the Season

Submitted by Leaders And Best on October 13th, 2021 at 7:06 PM

PSU announced DT P.J. Mustipher is out for the season. He might be their best DL. No update on QB Sean Clifford, but I would assume he will be back at some point this season if they have not released anything yet.

https://www.roarlionsroar.com/penn-state-football/2021/10/8384/penn-state-defensive-tackle-pj-mustipher-out-for-the-season-injury-per-james-franklin-iowa

NittanyFan

October 13th, 2021 at 7:17 PM ^

Big big big loss for Penn State.  Shoot, that's now 3/4 of the season-beginning projected DL.

As for Clifford, Franklin only announces season-ending injuries.

There's also been a brewing Franklin vs Ferentz drama brewing over the last 96 hours.  Ferentz essentially said earlier this week that PSU was faking various injuries in Saturday's game, including Mustipher's,  At least as regards Mustipher, that's apparently not the case.

NittanyFan

October 13th, 2021 at 7:28 PM ^

It's a good back seven, but I am worried about the mental state of the team, and Franklin's ability to rally them.

Things were going well in Iowa, PSU was up 2 scores.  Then Clifford gets hurt, everyone can see the back-up can't generate anything, then this news. 

In theory, PSU has everything still in front of it.  Win out and they win the B1G East.  But it does have the feel of "things went sour all of a sudden very quickly in the first half in Iowa City."

I worry about Franklin too because PSU is 3-18-2 (!!!) all-time ATS in his PSU tenure coming off of a Penn State straight up loss.  He doesn't handle adversity well.  And PSU is facing some adversity now.

wolve1972

October 14th, 2021 at 10:53 AM ^

I think OSU's schedule is setting up perfectly for them - lucky bastards.  I've read - don't know how true it is - that 14 out of their defensive 2-deep are either true or redshirt freshman or 1st and 2nd year players. And on offense, every B1G freshman of the week award has been won by an OSU freshman - Stroud 4x, RB Henderson once, and even backup QB McCord once. .All that youth - from those monster 2020 and 2021 classes - showed against Minnesota (somewhat) and Oregon, but is starting to kick it into gear.  Penn State could be walking into a buzz saw - with or without Clifford. I actually consider Clifford the no 1 MVP to his team in the B1G. He's a very good QB

XM - Mt 1822

October 13th, 2021 at 7:58 PM ^

i wonder about clifford's injury in that it was enough to keep him out of the game and largely responsible for your tough loss, but he was on the sidelines moving seemingly normal, albeit with shoulder pads off.  also, unless it happened at the stadium it didn't look like they bothered to do any imaging of the injury, at least not that night.  makes me think it might have been a pre-existing issue and that he'll be back.

sorry for that DT.  very talented, high round pick, and a season ending injury.  no  bueno. 

HAIL-YEA

October 13th, 2021 at 8:11 PM ^

I have it on good authority that Franklin is only putting him out for the season to keep up the lie that they weren't faking injuries.

Wish him well in his recovery, looked like a good player from the bit of PSU I had watched this season.

NittanyFan

October 14th, 2021 at 12:11 AM ^

If Iowa's current Director of Recruiting Tyler Barnes --- who was a Recruiting Coordinator at Vanderbilt in 2013 (e.g., NOT an assistant coach, and neither a Director of Recruiting) --- wants to make such claims, he should come out and say it.  Barnes shouldn't be hiding behind Ferentz,  Barnes should say it. 

And then Barnes can face the questions of "given you & Franklin were only at Vanderbilt together for 6 months, and given that you were only in an administrative role at the time and not an actual coach, how do you know?  Why is there nobody else who coached under Franklin who is also telling this same story?  Can you tell us the specific Vanderbilt games in 2013 where this happened?"

I know, I know ... that involves asking questions as opposed to automatically believing.  But I think those questions above are all fair.

I've posted a few times here over the years about how I am a PSU fan who doesn't love Franklin. But, as of this moment, I am seeing very little reason or proof for buying this story.  He's sticking up for his players and team right now while Ferentz and Iowa are firing off their dubious volleys.  I can't hate him for that.  Let's also not forget the Iowa assistant coach (LeVar Woods) who was literally falling down on the sideline himself, in a half-mock. 

Franklin has coached at Penn State for 7.5 years now.  Where is the prior history of him doing this in the B1G?  He's really waited this long to pull this stunt?  And against slow-paced Iowa of all teams?  Why not wait for an actual good tempo offense to do this? Does Franklin deserve any benefit of the doubt here, or do we automatically believe his accusers?

HAIL-YEA

October 14th, 2021 at 5:41 PM ^

This is not really worth that much of my time, but I will bite

The 6 months were during a football season, are you saying that if that was a thing that happened there would be anyone on staff who didn't know about it? Why would it matter what his title is?

Why would anyone else on staff even bring it up? It happens all the time in a whole bunch of different places, this is not some wild scandal that requires extraordinary evidence.

Again, you make it sound like this is some crazy new thing he has been accused of, it is as rampant in college football as flopping is in soccer. 

Franklin said he had notes about it before Ferentz made the comment. Were the boos enough reason for him to prepare a legal defense?

So the main reason we should believe it did not happen is that Iowa does not run a tempo offense? if they did run tempo would that be ok to do it?

Coaches and team get accused of things all the time, I can't remember ever seeing a response like the one Franklin gave for anything. It's the reaction of a guilty man.

mjv

October 14th, 2021 at 10:33 AM ^

If he did fake injuries while at Vandy, it doesn't mean that he did it while at PSU.  Vandy is historically among the worst SEC teams.  To survive there, its entirely plausible that one would need to stretch the bounds of what is acceptable.  

But PSU during his tenure has been one of the two best programs in the B1G East.  There seems to be a lack of necessity to pursue this strategy.  Additionally, this was against Iowa, probably the slowest team in the B1G.  Why playing against Iowa would be the first time for PSU faking injuries doesn't seem plausible.

Zoltanrules

October 14th, 2021 at 10:25 AM ^

After seeing the www.roarlionsroar site, and some of the videos of the plays in question (and the plays before the supposed faked injuries) most of the injury time-outs looked pretty legit.

Too bad about Mustipher. He was a solid DT.

If Clifford isn't healthy, the game vs OSU could get ugly.