Leaders And Best

August 22nd, 2012 at 8:27 AM ^

It's nice. But aren't they all now these days? There seems to be a new eye-opening one popping up every year. With the new TV money rolling in for conferences, I expect you will see one of these come up every year just like Michigan's PDC for basketball last year and Oregon's football operations center next year.

State Street

August 22nd, 2012 at 8:29 AM ^

Hysterical how people in the comments are chastizing USC and complaining that college athletics is getting too big.  This is a private institution, a building erected completely with private funds.  What do you want to do about it?

turtleboy

August 22nd, 2012 at 8:57 AM ^

Those bronze statues always end up looking bad. It sounds like a good idea, but then you see bronze Saban, Paterno, and McKay and they just look goofy.

NateVolk

August 22nd, 2012 at 9:07 AM ^

Pretty much the cost of doing business at the highest level these days. That's a wonderful campus. If you get out there, you all should check it out. In the middle of a rougher area too.

MGoUberBlue

August 22nd, 2012 at 9:09 AM ^

And a great college coach.

Remember his response to the question of whether OJ would get tired after carrying the ball 30 times a game?  "Don't see why; the ball doesn't weigh that much."

Blue Durham

August 22nd, 2012 at 9:55 AM ^

I recall the quote you mention a little differently, resonding to the question with "why not, it aint heavy."

After his USC coaching career, he went on to coach the expansion Tampa Bay Buccaneers.  During their first, miserable season, which they went 0-14, he was asked what he thought about his team's execution.  He replied that he was in favor of it.

 

MSHOT92

August 22nd, 2012 at 9:22 AM ^

the NCAA stipulates the letterhead Universities are allowed to recruit with to avoid one program standing out above it's peers...yeah, the NCAA has a way of worrying about nonsense yet turning a blind eye to the big picture. Nothing against USC or any other program building nice facilities, but please. Let's worry about cracking down on more important things that really affect football parity and the kids as a whole.

Likewise I've never understood how USC draws all the top talent year in and year out, yet UCLA with arguably similar location compared to say Minnesota? doesn't sustain the same level of football recruiting, and in some regards that's a rhetorical question.

Commie_High96

August 22nd, 2012 at 9:28 AM ^

UCLA is also in a much nicer part of town.  USC is in an area comparable to the south side of chicago where U of C is.  However, UCLA was basketball culture for years.  There are very, very few schools with sustained basketball and football programs. 

Maizenblueball

August 22nd, 2012 at 9:57 AM ^

You are correct about USC's location being in a sketchy part of town, compared to UCLA.  UCLA is a sleeping giant.  If they can ever start winning, they could wake up the sleeping giant.  LA is the biggest front-runner city I've ever lived in.  The masses just want to follow a winner.  There are some things I miss about LA, but the douchey, fair weather sports fans, are not one of them.

umichjenks

August 22nd, 2012 at 10:01 AM ^

if u look at these pictures of their facility and their "star" association it's easy to see why USC gets players. When Snoop and Will Ferrell are hanging around the team players want to be near that atmosphere.

We are talking about 18 yr old kids who are easily drawn to these things. Imagine you being 18 and not wanting to be around that.

Side note I wanted Kanye to sing under the lights last yr before the UTL game. That would have been so sweet.

bluebrains98

August 22nd, 2012 at 9:57 AM ^

A recruit shows up for his visit and gets a tour of fantastic facilities, top notch academics, amazing campus. Then they hear "Are you ready to see the greatest stadium in college football?" Excitement ensues. Then, they get on a bus and sit in traffic for an hour while the recruit is thinking, "My tour of the LA Coliseum would probably be over by now, and it's possible I could win a MNC in the time it takes just to get to this friggin place. I choose USC."

MGoUberBlue

August 22nd, 2012 at 10:55 AM ^

Of building a new football stadium on campus, but I don't see that happening due to (1) political opposition in a state that is virtually insolvent, (2) the expense of doing so in the middle of Brentwood.

It would seem that opposition could be overcome if a new stadium would be constructed with private donations (think the Big House), but UCLA does not seem inclined to raise capital for this.

It's also really hard for the students to get revved for a football game that is a 45 minute bus drive away.  Again, look at UM with students partying (sp?) the entire walk to the Big House.

WolvinLA2

August 22nd, 2012 at 11:40 AM ^

Slight nit pick - campus is in Westwood, not Brentwood.  Brentwood is on the other side of the 405 (for those not familiar with LA, Brentwood is where Tom Brady lives, and where OJ maybe didn't kill his wife). 

That said, it's tough to say which is more expensive, so your point remains unchanged. 

Tater

August 22nd, 2012 at 11:56 AM ^

All Snoop has to do is tell every recruit, "You got a lot of potential as a rapper.  If you come to USC, I'll get you in the business."  

That would be pretty tough for a 17 year-old to turn down, even if it isn't true.

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dth

August 22nd, 2012 at 10:29 AM ^

They hire terrible coaches. UCLA had the better of the rivalry in the 90s and, with a few different bounces of the ball, would've competed for a MNC in '98, I believe. Ever since then they've hired poorly. Their AD is a joke and the support from the school in minimal--they practice on an eighty-yard field which seemed to cause an ACL injury every year. (They just resurfaced it. Don't think they got new uprights, and it's still only one eighty-yard field.)

Recruiting has generally been more than fine. It's the leadership at the top. As a Stanford fan, I hope the leadership continues to suck, for obvious and not-quite-as-obvious reasons (Stanford v. UCLA is a common recruiting battle...I'd say Stanford v. Notre Dame is the only one more common.)

PM

August 22nd, 2012 at 1:13 PM ^

It starts at the top. UCLA's president wouldn't spend a nickel on athletics if he wasn't forced to. I.e., lack of financial support needed to hire a top flight staff and build nice facilities.

LSAClassOf2000

August 22nd, 2012 at 11:17 AM ^

In case anyone would like to see it, a more detailed tour of the facility was on YouTube and is posted below, complete with a soundtrack that is a bit Aphex Twin and a bit Kraftwerk with a smidgen of other groups in there as well.

It's a very nice facility, and I must say, for a few million more, they likely could have just built the football program a 1:1 model of the Enterprise.

snarling wolverine

August 22nd, 2012 at 12:19 PM ^

At some point the law of diminishing returns is going to have to kick in for these kinds of things.  These new facilities all pretty much look the same.  Eventually they're probably not going to produce that much of a recruiting windfall.  (USC was a recruiting machine long before this anyway.)