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USC is private isn't it? UCLA

USC is private isn't it? UCLA is public, Cali is broke and can't afford the same luxuries the private schools have

I'm letting everyone know...

Da'Shawn Hand from Woodbirdge, VA is the real deal.  He had 21 sacks as a sophomore.  He is friends with Levenberry and is better than him.  One of my good friends is his DC and according to his camp results could possiibly end up one of the top 5 kids in the country his senior year.  Oh..and he wants to be an engineer.  Mattison was there a few weeks ago to offer him.  Stoops and Saban called personally to offer him.  This kid is going to blow up.

SO..

WHAT WAS THE BASKETBALL RECORD IN 1997?

really gonna miss molk

really gonna miss molk

I agree

inaugaral class should be larger, subsequent years limit it to maybe 4 from the major sports and one non revenue athlete per year and even consider an "executive/admin/media position as well

I'll play, my tag is

I'll play, my tag is "CANZIOR"  i wont be home until about 10 tonight, but i will accept it then.

Brian says:

there are problems, apps are down temporarily becausehe didn't expect it to be as big as it became and didn't switch to something that can hold more of something else to accomodate all of the people.  I think...

Should be back soon though

am i the only one that still

am i the only one that still watches that and smiles?

 

 

"Wide open is Gallen...they left him alone..."

you make an interesting point,,,

but i don't agree with it.  You are underestimating the importance of chemistry.  What about egos? Any coach worth his salt is a workaholic, type A and while they may not butt heads with Meyer, they may butt heads with each other.  Part of the reason for the success Michigan had this year was the chemistry between coaches.  Think it's a lot harder than just finding people who know football...every coach at that level KNOWS the game better than 99% of fans, so it's gotta be more than just knowledge.

Not defending Meyer

But I think this is likely because Hoke and Co. have been in place for a little more than a year..and have had a huge jump on recruiting for 2013.  Meyer is just getting in, and hasn't been around much recently, got his staff together, focused on 2012 and they are just now getting around to next year, where Hoke already has commits and offers out fro next years class. 

Not to say that I wouldn't expect him to do something Urban-like...but it might not be intentionally sinister just yet

Per ESPN:
Gibbs is a tough

Per ESPN:

Gibbs is a tough inline blocker who can maul defenders when run blocking; also flashes the explosion and playing strength to knock defenders off the ball when single blocking. Has great size with good athleticism for the offensive guard position at the major level of competition. It appears his frame is very capable on handling additional body mass. We like this guys toughness; comes off the ball aggressive and hard but a little too high at times; must work to lower his pad level on initial contact. Appears to bave some lower body stiffness however we are impressed with his ability to get out of his stance when asked to pull and trap, locating defenders on the move while demonstrating good balance and agility; plays on his feet well in space. Although this prospect is more of a mauler than one who consistently knocks defenders off the line of scrimmage we are impressed with his ability to get movement when single blocking; is a nasty tough finisher who is capable of putting defenders on their backs. If he is to successfully reach for leverage and consistently get a hat on active 1st and 2nd level defenders we see the need to improve initial quickness, first step and pad level. His long arms should be an asset in pass protection; is not heavy legged playing in the center/guard box, flashing the ability to bend and slide his feet. We do feel he plays too tall and must improve his overall balance and base when pass blocking. All areas of hand use will need refinement although we see flashes of strong initial punch and extension. Gibbs appears to be flying under the radar as a BCS prospect. However with his size, potential for growth and toughness we see major level potential at the offensive guard position.

Totally agree

After the Ohio game, I found myself with plenty of free time, and in 3 days I watched the entire season. If you have Cinemax, you might like Strike Back as well.

i once...

talked myself into a ticket...in which a Harvard law grad had to defend me in court.

Stonum to have:

an explosive final season on the end of Al Borges's copious deep balls???  This sentence sounds very Penn Statish

I agree

Why be worried?  It's going to be an exciting game against a great program and let's all just enjoy playing a real OOC opponent that isn't ND.  No one on this board picked Michigan to be 11-2...just liek no one is picking them to beat Bama.  Stranger things have happened

but..

compared to who(whom)?  Can you find more than 4 teams that have fewer question marks than Michigan for next year?  I get it seems high, but maybe there are no more than 4 options to place above them??   

B/R says similar

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1017814-5-teams-that-can-dethrone-th…

 

names M as one of 5 teams to dethrone SEC next year

agree with everything you

agree with everything you said! 

I kinda agree

On one hand you want to tighten the ship...pull everyone together to work through this ordeal, but on the other hand, you want to bring in fresh blood to change the culture.  They want to get out from under Joe -Pa's shadow.    It's possible that they could've hired him, expecting him to fail, and in 3 years when the storm has died down, they acn bring it back home with someone they all love and who would be embraced a la Hoke.  Kinda far-fetched but a possibility...it's worked well for Michigan.

was it just me or did it seem

was it just me or did it seem like the camera was always in the wrong place?  I felt like we missed a lot of extras and even the gatorade bath...i wasn't thrilled with the coverage

i havent read all the

i havent read all the comments, but I think you root for your kid for 4 years (or five) and then go from there...or do what Spielman's dad did and tell him where he was going.  If my son is talented enough to play D1 ball, I would support his decision.  But if he chose Ohio or little brother, i think he would be doing it to spite me, so..who knows!

Harbaughs too...

yeah this is pretty common.  The Harbaugh brothers got together last week to discuss beating the Steelers cause it helped out both of them.

he's always like that with

he's always like that with KH, and its usually pretty funny.  Did you notice Herbstreit laughed when he heard the Ohio "sanctions" like he was a crook getting away with robbing a bank?  Even he admits that they were a joke

I don't know about Pryor

He was obviously a headcase, but I don't know if anyone can assume he would've been the same player/person in Ann Arbor that he was in Columbus.  People tend to react based on the culture that they are a part of.  Look at the Stanford Experiment...is it possible that in Ann Arbor, he would not have been trading memorabilia or getting free tattoos because there weren't those longstanding relationships with players from outsiders?  Not saying he would have been Tim tebow, but Michigan alums wouldn't have taken him to the tattoo parlor, like I'm sure some the former Ohio players would have.  IMO

I agree with this

Especially if the last two recruits are on board, Garnett and Diamond...

having to choose

I would rather win with a great defense than a great offense.  I feel better winning 17-3 than I do 67-65 any day.

I think Hoke can bring in big time offensive players, but i understand what you are saying.  There is no guarantee that he will do any better than Carr in that regard.  I think the difference comes in the coaching style.  Borges is a better coordinator than the guys Carr had, and Hoke is certainly more aggressive in his coaching style...works for Les Miles.  A fake fg or 4th and 1 conversion could be the difference between 9 wins and 11.

i agree

especially in the NFL...the last STRONG defense to carry its team to a title was...baltimore?  Since then its been Brady, Mannings, Brees, Rodgers..I guess you could count the Steelers D too..

I know how people hate to

I know how people hate to mess with tradition, but i'd love to see a trophy with a bust of Woody facing a bust of Bo...about 60 lbs, looking very very old school..just wood and bronze...would be a lot of fun to win every year

Brandon should've kept his

Brandon should've kept his mouth shut.  He was still with Valassis when all this went down, yet I found it interesting that he spoke as if he were in the room and played a key role in the decision making process. 

I think if you aren't part of the culture, then you just don't get it.  It's that simple.  I don't care how much of a fan you are/were, whether or not you went to U of M, cheered for all the games, watched them on tv etc...if you weren't lower class, young, and black when they played ball, then you just don't get it.  And there is nothing wrong with that.  It was a purely cultural thing.  The reason why they were so popular?? because everything you saw playing street ball in Detroit, and Chicago, and New York...was now on tv.  They didn't do anything that couldn't be found in any city, but they did it for the world to see.  I could buy into the resentment for a second, but the resentment started BEFORE all of this went down.  The moment they stepped on campus, they were hated and it was fucked up.  It was some extremely racist shit and it wasn't just outsiders.  No one owns this fucking sport, and it's no ones responsibility to talk about what was "wrong" with what they were doing. 

Did Webber really set the program back 15 years?  We had a hell of a recruiting class after the Fab 5, that constantly underachieved.  We also had two horrible coaches who couldn't recruit a fly to a pile of shit.  When they took the banners down, we were already bad. 

Webber felt like the school owed him something.  They all did, and he was justified in feeling that way, but he should've considered that before signing up to play college basketball where people don't get compensated.  Don't benefit from the process, but complain about how it didn't work best for you.  Sometimes you gotta put your big boy pants on, and find another cause.  He was able to make millions because of his time at Michigan (although he was leaning Duke and would've certainly been just as successful) so he didn't exactly get shafted.  He was part of the biggest cultural integration that any American sport has ever seen, he is and will always be famous for that, and if he can grow up at almost forty years old, he can avoid being infamous for that.

Schefter seems to think its

Schefter seems to think its between Michigan and SF though...so who really knows?  WE won't know until he actually says something because everyone is reporting different opinions.  Last week they said he wasn't being contacted by a lot of NFL teams because they thought he was already going to Michigan...which is also a reason that Florida gave after they called him.

what a great picture

what a great picture

do they even have 5 star kids

do they even have 5 star kids out thre? 

wvu had a good defense this

wvu had a good defense this year too...only gave up over 20 once or something like that

they'd be stupid to get rid

they'd be stupid to get rid of him...unless he misses rich rod

great analogy dude...i gotta

great analogy dude...i gotta roll with you on that one

great!

this is great....i would even do the buttaface chick...with the lights on!!

wow

i'm sure many of you have noticed, when it comes to Michigan football, anyone is more likely to get some form of a common sense answer on here than on ESPN.com

wow

i'm sure many of you have noticed, when it comes to Michigan football, anyone is more likely to get some form of a common sense answer on here than on ESPN.com

I agree

I like Hoke as an option...a bit mor than Harbaugh because of his body of work.  I am probably wrong but I feel like under Harbaugh we would be an unexciting team and perhaps Hoke can add a little flair or spark.  Can we get a little bit of that Les Miles personality without the grass eating possibly?

guess i should clarify

it was an interview he did and they supposedly reported it in the DetNews and ESPN...

YOU KNOW...

that might've been the stupidest thing Bayless has ever said...and he has said some retarded shit over the years

aha!

says the non accounting major, lol...

both schools still spend about $20M.  It would be interesting to see where the disparity is, because we do have a larger stadium and a larger merchandising contract.  

What about the bowl game from last year?  That counts toward revenues right? and we haven't had that extra money in a couple years. 

I guess in the end, it's no different than trying to figure out why one person has more billions than another.  We are still close enough to the top...and to do so after the 3 seasons we have had speaks a lot about the national relevance, and the strong alumni and fan base that the school has. 

This shit is bananas...there

This shit is bananas...there a lot of good article about the absolute crap that the NCAA has handed down this year alone and how this decision is the most recent in a long line of fuck ups.  I don't know if they have made a decision yet that seemed appropriate

I wanna agree...but

based on what?  His success at a perennially underachieving college program? And an 11-1 season that saw how many wins over bowl teams? 

I think he will be competent, but I want to see more before I opine on whether or not he will be a success.

Weren't we #5 last year too?

Last season Beaver Stadium was bigger...

and we had 7 home games instead of 8.  How many did PSU have?

Don't we pay our coaches more as well?  Does that factor into it? 

And PSU'ers are buying merchanidse because they love thier coach...and Michigan...umm...not so much lol

What about...

Laquentin Smith?  Have we heard anything about him?  He is a safety from Dr. Phillips as well..

good point...

But if MSU beats Bama, and PSU beats Florida and Michigan runs Miss St out...will it be congratulatory to the Big 10, or will it be "the SEC is rebuilding?"

that's true

but a lot of this started when OSU got housed in their NC losses to the SEC.  Mich, PSu and Iowa all have winning records vs the SEC in bowls, so it's ridiculous to think that just cause OSU got exposed that the wrest of the conference is just as weak.

I heard about the Delta and

I heard about the Delta and Beta which is 10 and Big in latin...i like the concept but the names don't really sound like great division names.  I would like something a bit more complex, but nothign really sticks out to me

no..you could've said it

I'll say they don't have a chance. I've lived in VA for 25 years, Richmond for 13.  There are about 0 top recruits in the state that go to UVA.  VT has more recognition and more influence with high school coaches.  And considering the high school he goes too, he isn't going to UVA no matter what he thinks of London.  VT has an amazing stadium feel, UVA lacks the campus sex appeal.  If he stays in state, he'll go to VT.